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So that everyone knows the facts (wish you'd posted this in the first place............lol)

1841
George Street, Hammersmith, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England
William West Male 41 1800 Middlesex, England
Elizabeth West Female 40 1801 -
George West Male 15 1826 Middlesex, England
Edward West Male 13 1828 Middlesex, England

Which - if either- of the children is your proven line?

ErikaH Thank you for the 1851 census

Wondered why Charlotte wasnt on the 1841 census so I went a hunting

1841 census Loose Road, Loose Kent
Wm West 35 Ag lab
Elizabeth 30
Charlotte 12
William 5 months

1851 census Brunswick St Maidstone
Wm West 50 Paper maker/engineer
Elizabeth 44
Charlotte 22 Paper maker asst
William 10
Charlotte 22
William 10

My West family were in Hammersmith Middlesex on the 1841 census,.I am so confused Are you able to help??

Why did all the women love the name Elizabeth!

The 1841 census on Ancestry that is in Hammersmith doesnt give any suggestions as where to go next.

Any help will be appreciated

Thank you
Rose

1851

Name: William West
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizth West
Gender: Male
Where born: Loose, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Maidstone
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Maidstone
Sub-registration district: West Maidstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Household schedule number: 162
Piece: 1617
Folio: 174
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
William West 50
Elizth West 44
Charlotte West 22
William West 10

1861

Name: William West
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth West
Gender: Male
Where born: Loose, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Maidstone
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Maidstone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Maidstone
Sub-registration district: West Maidstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 500
Folio: 103
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
William West 60
Elizabeth West 54

1851 census for ELIZABETH WEST (EVERSON) BORN 1806 DARTFORD KENT
WLLIAM WEST

ONLY HAVE 1841 census

Thank you
Rose

Alfred Emmanuel Everson (1861) was my gt.grandfather, he was married to Lucy Lindsay (known as Louisa) Have their marriage certificate.

Alfred Everson gt gt grandfather (1826) married Mary Ann Ponting/Ponton/Parton.I have their marriage certificate. On the 1851 census it shows Alfred was born in Hammersmith.

1841 census shows Alfred Everson 1826 born Hammersmith living with his grandmother Mary at 60 Overy Street Dartford at 14 he is a Blacksmith.

There is a pallots birth 26/2/1826 St Pauls Hammersmith, shows his parents as Elizabeth Everson and Wm Curtis.

As Alfreds grandfather died abt 1823 he would not have known him. He may have become close to his uncle James and used his name as his father? Will never know when he went to live with his grandmother. Perhaps as Elizabeth was on her own she may not have coped.

I married a Smith from Kent so can sympathise lol.

Rose

I have not found anything so far but Wests are difficult. I know this as I have Wests and Smiths and more Smiths.

Could you post your starting point on how you got to Alfred. There are still so many unknowns. There are more records than when you last looked so we may find something new.

I am still uncertain about this as we do not yet have confirmation links.
All i have done is look at what you already have.

Hi Ladykira,

I think the army recorord for Edward West looks good.

According to Graeme, Overy Street was the home to 3 generations of Eversons. In the 18th century was called Frying Pan Street. In 1849 a public health report condemned Overy Street as insanitary due to bad smells,refuse piled in the street and frequent outbreaks of Typhus etc.

Thank you so much for your help, youve been marvellous. Were you not able to find the 1851 census for Elizabeth and William West?

Hi Chris, Thanks for the baptism record

Rose

Baptism
County Kent
Place Dartford
Church Holy Trinity Pr
RegisterNumber 713
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 30 Jul 1837
Forename Edward
FatherForename James
MotherForename Ann
FatherSurname EVERSON
MotherSurname
Abode Dartford
FatherOccupation Smith

(above if any help, from below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Did you notice James was also living on Overy Street?

I think they are all related but James does not have a child Alfred.

It is proving difficult to trace the West children as we do not know the name of their mother and nor do we know where they or William were born.

Is this Edward West?

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription
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First Name EDWARD
Last Name WEST
Age At Attestation Months 1
Age At Attestation Years 18
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Attestation Day 11
Attestation Month 2
Year Of Birth 1828
Document Type Discharge
Year 1846
Birth Country ENGLAND
Birth County MIDDLESEX
Attestation Corps -
Birth Parish HAMMERSMITH
Attestation Soldier Number -
Birth Town HAMMERSMITH
Discharge Corps 1ST BATT 22ND REG OF FOOT
Discharge Soldier Number 2583
Rank PRIVATE
Box 1467
Regiment -
Box Record Number 167
Soldier Number 2583
Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

Hi ladykira,

OMG, throwing cat amongst pigeons
birth James Everson bap 20/3/1808 mother Mary father John!! James'
father should be William.

There is a tree on Ancestry 'Mctoldridge' I think have the same details?
The fathers name could not be wrong surely?

William Everson had a brother John but his spouse was Sarah.

I am now so confused

North West Kent Burials Transcription
First Name James
Last Name Everson
Year 1862
Month Oct
Day 5
Abode Dartford
Place Dartford
County Kent
Country England
Age 55
Description Holy Trinity
Notes -
Record set North West Kent Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

My grandmother's funeral was held there too.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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First Name JAMES
Last Name EVERSON
Relationship HEAD
Condition MARRIED
Gender Male
Age 53
Year Of Birth 1808
Occupation BLACKSMITH
Birth Town DARTFORD
Birth County KENT
Birth Place -
House Name -
Street QUEEN STREET
Parish DARTFORD
Town DARTFORD
City -
Registration District DARTFORD
County Kent
Country ENGLAND
Archive Reference RG09
Piece Number 467
Folio 49
Page 38
Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census

JAMES EVERSON HEAD 53 1808 DARTFORD Image Transcription
ANN EVERSON WIFE 48 1813 SWANSCOMBE Image Transcription
GEORGE EVERSON SON 12 1849 DARTFORD Image Transcription
SAMUEL EVERSON SON 9 1852 DARTFORD Image Transcription
HENRY COLLINS GRANDFATHER 74 1787 SWANSCOMBE

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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First Name JAMES
Last Name EVERSON
Relationship HEAD
Condition MARRIED
Gender Male
Age 43
Year Of Birth 1808
Occupation BLACKSMITH
Birth Place -
Birth Town DARTFORD
Birth County KENT
House Number -
House Name FROGS ISLAND
Street -
Town -
Parish DARTFORD
City -
County Kent
Hamlet -
Parliamentary Borough -
Municipal Ward -
Registration District DARTFORD
Archive Reference HO107
Piece Number 1607
Folio 356
Page 53
Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys

Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth Birth Town
JAMES EVERSON HEAD 43 1808 DARTFORD Image Transcription
ANN EVERSON WIFE 37 1814 SWANSCOMB Image Transcription
EDWARD EVERSON SON 13 1838 DARTFORD Image Transcription
HENRY C EVERSON SON 9 1842 DARTFORD Image Transcription
JAMES EVERSON SON 4 1847 DARTFORD Image Transcription
GEORGE EVERSON SON 2 1849 DARTFORD Image Transcription
HENRY J COLLINS FATHER-IN-LAW 63 1788 SWANSCOMB

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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First Name JAMES
Last Name EVERSON
Age 30
Year Of Birth 1811
Gender Male
Occupation -
House Number -
House Name -
Street OVERY STREET
Parish DARTFORD
City -
Town SUTTON AT HONE
Registration District DARTFORD
County Kent
Country ENGLAND
Birth County KENT
Archive Reference HO107
Schedule 1059
Piece Number 482
Folio 25A
Page 45
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
JAMES EVERSON 30 1811 Image Transcription
ANN EVERSON 25 1816 Image Transcription
ELIZABETH EVERSON 2 1839 Image Transcription
EDWARD EVERSON 4 1837 Image Transcription
SARAH ANDERSON 20 1821

To throw cat amonst pigeons
Thames & Medway Baptisms Transcription
First Name JAMES
Last Name EVERSON
Country England
Record set Thames & Medway Baptisms
County Kent
Year 1808
Mother Mary
Father John
First Names James
Year Of Birth 1808
Place DARTFORD
Baptism Day 20
Baptism Month MAR
Baptism Year 1808
Birth Day -
Birth Month -
Birth Year -
Notes -
Source Holy Trinity Dartford 1801-1813 baptsims
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

http://www.uk.mundia.com/gb/Person/15377/-492969369

The conversation is on the first link I posted.

Looks like Graeme now agrees with you.

Birth
1825Hammersmith, London, England
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Christening
1826Hammersmith, St. Paul, Middlesex
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Residence
1841Dartford, Kent, England
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Residence: With Grandmother Mary Everson (Jones)
1841Overy St, Dartford
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Marriage: As Alfred Everson "son Of James Everson".
1848Waterloo, Surrey
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Residence
1851Dartford, Kent, England
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Residence
1861Plumstead, Kent, England
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Residence
1861Plumstead, Kent, England
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Residence
1861Plumstead, Kent, England
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Residence
1871Plumstead, Kent, England
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Residence
1881Plumstead, London, England
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Job: Blacksmith
1881Plumstead, Kent, England
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Marriage
1886Plumstead St Nicholas, England
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Residence
1891Erith, Kent, England
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Death
1900Dartford District
Posted by GraemeDavis
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Hi ladykira,

Yes this is the Elizabeth I was looking for. I am so sorry to have put you through all that! I did not realise I had told Graham what had been found. I must have told him straight from the GR site without writing down the details on my familly record sheet thinking I could go back to it any time.

Are you able to find anything after the 1841 census please.

Most grateful
Rose

You have been in debate about his father being William or James.

This is the second marriage for Alfred and he again states his father is James.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Alfred Everson
Name: Alfred Everson
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Age: 53
Spouse Name: Eliza Sloss
Spouse Age: 33
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Mar 1886
Parish: Plumstead St Nicholas
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: James Everson
Spouse Father: James Sloss
Register Type: Parish Register

This does not make sense if his mother was Elizabeth Everson single woman. I think you may need to look at this again. :-S