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Fancy a challenge as I can't see the Wood(s)?

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~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~  **007 1/2**

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 26 Apr 2014 19:18

I do struggle with this branch of my tree, there's so many loose ends and I probably don't know where to start. Would like to finally get a bit further so would appreciate any help.

The surname is Wood but the further back I go, it seems to be Woods.

Rather than posting everything I know to begin with, I'll try and focus in on one area where I'd love to find any help, however, I'll try and input a lot of detail to give you some idea.


Henry Wood(s) was born about 1805/6/7 in Liverpool. (I'm not going to post anything about his early start in life just yet as that's a different challenge)

Henry Wood(s) married Ann Lloyd born about 1804 at Saint Nicholas, Liverpool, on 14 Mar 1830. He was listed as a labourer.

They had the following children: I've included the address and Henry's occupation at the time of their baptism.

John Woods born about 1832 Baptised 11 Sep 1832 St Peter Liverpool Living at Oldham Court, Oldham Street Liverpool(Henry was police officer). Not sure where John is is in 1851 and lose track after 1861

Edward Woods born about 1834 baptised 21 Apr 1834 St Peter Liverpool. Living at Oldham Court, Liverpool (Henry is police man). Think Edward died before 1841.

William Woods born about 1836. baptised on 11 Apr 1836 at St Peter Liverpool. Living at Oldham Court, Oldham Street Liverpool (Henry was police officer). Lose track after 1851.

Henry Woods (Sometimes known as Harry) born about 1838. Not sure when baptised. Not sure where young henry is in 1861 but think he married Sarah Alice Parkinson at St Phillips church in 1862. He was living at 7 Back Bittern Street, Liverpool, England which ties in with the 1861 Census below. Father Henry is listed as Gardener in 1862, Young Henry is listed as a Sail Maker. Lose track of him in 1871 but in 1881 he is living at 36 Vane Street, West Derby. Lose track of young Henry after that.

Mary Woods born 1840 Baptised 28 Sep 1840 at St Peter. Living at Oldham Court, Oldham Street Liverpool (Henry is market constable). Think she married Thomas Thompson on 02 May 1865 at St Peter Liverpool, (haven't seen marriage yet) Lose track of her in 1871 but think I've found her with her younger brother Edward in 1881 at 42 Sterne Street, West Derby, Lancashire, She was widowed and listed as a charwoman. Lose track of her after 1881.

Joseph Wood(s) born 24 August 1842 at Oldham Court, Oldham Street, Liverpool. haven't found baptism. (I must have his birth certificate but haven't got it to hand). He married Ellen Brereton on 21 Nov 1865 at St George, Liverpool. Father Henry is listed as Dock gateman. No mention of him being deceased. He is listed as a mariner (from Everton) which is why I think I can't find him in 1861, 1881 1901 and 1911. In 1871 he is living at 14 Alma Street, Everton. In 1882 he is at 13 Severs Street, Liverpool. in 1891 he is living at 28 Belgrave Street, Liverpool. In 1900 he is living at 21 Walker Street, West Derby, Liverpool.

I have found his wife Ellen in 1881 1901 and 1911. I'm not sure when he or his wife Ellen died.

James Woods born about 1845 Leigh Street, Liverpool (labourer). He was baptised 06 Jun 1845 at St Peter Liverpool. Father Henry is listed as a labourer. No trace of him on 1851 so he may have died beforehand or he may not belong to this family.

Edward Woods born about 1846. Haven't found baptism yet. He was a porter in 1861. I think he married Barbara Dodd on 06 Nov 1879 at Liverpool St Jude He was listed as a mariner from 25 Cecil Street, Liverpool. His father Henry was listed as a gardener. He was living with his sister at 42 Sterne Street, West Derby, He was listed as Fireman On Ship (Seaman). His wife remarried on 24 Jan 1892 to William Lee so he must have died between 1881-1892. Not sure where she was in 1891. Edward may have died in 1889 according to the BMD index??

Throughout this time the names change from Woods to Wood so it does get confusing.

Here is Henry Wood and Ann Lloyd in the census records.

1841 Census - Oldham Court, Oldham Street Liverpool

Name: Henry Woods (labourer)
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 560
Book: 8
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Woods 35
Ann Woods 35
John Woods 8
William Woods 5
Harry Woods 3
Mary Woods 9 Mo


1851 Census - 20 Prudhoe Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Name: Henry Woods (labourer)
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1805
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Woods
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1i
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 2184
Folio: 285
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Woods 46
Ann Woods 47
William Woods 16
Henry Woods 14
Joseph Woods 8
Edward Woods 5
Mary Woods 10


I think Henry may have died before the 1861 Census. I think this may be the family in 1861 but would like a second opinion.

1861 Census 7 Back Bittern Street, Mount Pleasant, Liverpool,

Name: Ann Wood
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: 1804
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Budle, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Columba
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 11f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 339
Piece: 2682
Folio: 24
Page Number: 52
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Wood 57
John Wood 29
Mary Wood 20
Edward Wood 17

I know she is listed as being from Liverpool previously and now she is listed as being from Wales but apparently this fits in with something a distant relation said as there being a Welsh connection on that side of the tree. I'm not sure if it is Budle? though, If I could establish the area, it may help with her birth.

Also, I can't make out what John's occupation may be in 1861. (edited: Dea has deciphered it as being a labourer) I don't know where he is on the 1851 census or 1871 (if he's still alive) 's I thought that may help.

I lose track of Ann after 1861 if that is her and some of the marriages for the children are based on this 1861 family.

As you can see for just this part of the tree, there are quite a few lose ends and I'm not sure whether anyone can help or has the energy to help :-).

I'd really like to find out what happened to Henry and Ann. We thought Henry may have died in May 1854 at Athort street but the death certificate said he was a cooper and we didn't recognise the informant.

Sorry if this is a bit overwhelming!

Dea

Dea Report 26 Apr 2014 19:47

Haven't got much further yet but John's occupation in 1861 is 'Labourer' so not much help there then :-( ;-)

Dea Xxx

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~  **007 1/2**

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 26 Apr 2014 19:55

That's lovely Dea! It niggles me when I can't read what it says. Thank you x

Dea

Dea Report 26 Apr 2014 20:04

No probs - I won't be on much longer tonight but would be happy to come back tomorrow and try to help.

Dea Xxx

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~  **007 1/2**

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 26 Apr 2014 20:05

Thanks Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 27 Apr 2014 10:34

Just to let you know that I have been 'on the case' since 8 o'clock this morning but haven't found anything useful for you yet I am afraid :-(

I will keep at it and post if I find anything new !

Dea x

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~  **007 1/2**

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 27 Apr 2014 11:02

Thank you so much Dea xxx I did say it was a challenge!

I just seem to find it odd that some of the children just disappear on the census records.

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~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 27 Apr 2014 11:38

Forgot to say, I found this late last night on Lancashire opc:

Baptism: 14 Nov 1830 Holy Trinity, Wavertree, Lancashire, England
Henry Woods - son of Henry Woods & Ann
Abode: Wavertree
Occupation: Gardener
Baptised by: Thos. Hornby Off. Min.
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1842, Page 51, Entry 408
Source: LDS Film 2147886

I'm not sure of it's the same family or not. The area of Wavertree worries me a bit.

I thought Henry may be the son of William Woods (Tailor) and Mary Smith and was born 25 Jun 1807 & Bap 18 Jul 1807 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Living at in Gerard Street.

I think he may have siblings born in Weale/Whale Street.

Ann b. 15 Dec 1808. Bap 18 Jan 1809 St Nicholas d. Jun 1811 Weale/Whale Street
Sarah b. 30 Jan 1811 bap 20 Feb 1811 - Weale/Whale Street
John bap 26 Nov 1813 St Peters, Liverpool - Weale/Whale St

Baptism: 18 Jul 1807 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Henry Woods - Son of William Woods & Mary (formerly Smith), His Wife
Born: 25 Jun 1807
Abode: Gerard Street
Occupation: Tailor
Register: Baptisms 1807, Page 324, Entry 950
Source: LDS Film 93833

Baptism: 18 Jan 1809 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ann Woods - Daughter of William Woods & Mary (formerly Smith), His Wife
Born: 15 Dec
Abode: Weale Street
Occupation: Tailor
Register: Baptisms 1809, Page 372, Entry 89
Source: LDS Film 93833

Baptism: 20 Feb 1811 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Sarah Woods - Dau of William Woods & Mary (formerly Smith)
Born: 30 Jan 1811
Abode: Weale St
Occupation: Tailor
Register: Baptisms 1810 - 1812, Page 51, Entry 266
Source: LDS Film 1656377

Baptism: 26 Nov 1813 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Woods - Son of William Woods & Mary
Abode: Whale St
Occupation: Taylor
Baptised by: T. H. Heathcote Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1814, Page 190, Entry 1517
Source: LDS Film 1656378

The trouble is I've found the 1832 Poll book contains a Henry Wood from Gerard Street as a Victualler - I'm hoping it's a relation or someone else. The family should have moved away from Gerard Street with Henry by 1809 anyway so maybe I'm needlessly worrying.

If this Henry does belong to Henry Wood and Ann LLoyd, then he should have died before Henry (Harry) born 1838.

This is part of different query though but I've just recorded it whilst I think on and I do have more details about William and Mary

Dea

Dea Report 27 Apr 2014 14:59

Not got much but every little helps........

Re: Edward.

This is the marriage you have for Edward:

Marriage: 6 Nov 1879 St Jude the Apostle, West Derby, Lancashire, England
Edward Wood - 32, Mariner, Bachelor, 25 Cecil Street
Barbara Dodd - (X), 28, Spinster, 72 Prescot Street
Groom's Father: Henry Wood, Gardener
Bride's Father: Edward Dodd, Carter
Witness: C. Powell; Frederick Herring
Married by Banns by: Ernest J. A. Fitzroy
Register: Marriages 1876 - 1891, Page 92, Entry 184
Source: LDS Film 1545847

Looks like they already had one child?

Baptism: 11 May 1880 St George, Everton, Lancashire, England
William George Wood - [Child] of Edward Wood & Barbara
Born: 24 Apr 1879
Abode: 64 Louisa St
Occupation: Mariner
Baptised by: H. J. Langley
Register: Baptisms 1866 - 1882, Page 323, Entry 2584
Source: LDS Film 2147913


This is his widow on 1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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First Name BARBARA
Last Name WOOD
Relationship HEAD
Condition WIDOW
Gender Female
Year Of Birth 1852
Age 39
Occupation LAUNDRESS
Birth Town -
Birth County Bitston? CHESHIRE
Birth Place -
House Name -
Street 31 ROCKWOOD STREET
Town -
Parish WEST DERBY
City LIVERPOOL
County Lancashire
Registration District WEST DERBY
Vessel Name -
Archive Reference RG12
Piece Number 2991
Folio 27
Page 48
Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Other Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Year Of Birth Age
WILLIAM DODD BOARDER 1863 28 Brother Teamster (Cart)
Image Transcription
EDWARD WOOD SON 1882 9
Image Transcription
HENRY WOOD SON 1889 2
Image Transcription
WILLIAM WOOD SON 1885 6


The last child was born c 1889 so the death you have for Edward looks to be around the right time but the age (52) is way out!!

Dea x

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~  **007 1/2**

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 27 Apr 2014 17:02

Thank you so much Dea, that's wonderful!!! :-D

Re the date for Edward, I have him being about 42 in 1889 so it may fit ok.

Can I say how grateful I am. You've spent a lot of time on this and it is appreciated

:-D

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~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 27 Apr 2014 17:32


Think I've found them in 1901 although Barbara and her husband's surname has been mistranscribed. It should say Lee!

1901 England Census about Edward Wood
Name: Edward Wood
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Relative (Other Relative)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: Kensington and West Derby Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

View image
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3491
Folio: 79
Page Number: 12
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members:
Name Age
William Brotherton 52
Barbara Brotherton 48
Elizth Brotherton 7
Edward Wood 19
William Wood 16
John Cowley 20
William Dadd 39
William Dadd 9
John Dodd 7
Edward Dodd 2
Martha Dodd 5

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3491; Folio: 79; Page: 12.

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~  **007 1/2**

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 27 Apr 2014 18:03

Henry doesn't seem to be there but he was alive until 01 May 1895 as he was baptised aged 6.

Name: Henry Wood
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1888
Baptism Date: 1 May 1895
Parish: Kensington, Christ Church
Father's Name: Edward Wood
Mother's name: Barbara Wood
Reference Number: 283 KEN/2/4

Dea

Dea Report 27 Apr 2014 20:10

I wonder if this is 'little Henry's' death.

He could have been baptised as he was dying?

Deaths Jun 1895
Wood Henry 6 W. Derby 8b 368

SO very sad!!! :-(

Dea x

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~  **007 1/2**

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 27 Apr 2014 20:34

I did wonder about that, the baptism being so late, I hoped it wasn't the case but you're probably right. It is sad indeed :-(