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Janet Maclaren/Mackenzie died 1932

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 30 Apr 2017 19:36

Rita - please see the reply on General Chat.

As you are a new member, you may not realise that its best to only have one thread per family/request. That's because helpers tend to look at all the boards but may come across one thread while a different helper is trying to assist on another. That ends up as a duplication of effort.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1366056
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1366055

Its also best not to tag a request onto a completely unrelated one started by someone else
Don't worry, you'll soon get the hang of it :-)

rita

rita Report 30 Apr 2017 19:20

looking for information on Rita McLaren born 1941 died 1989 springburn glasgow her mother was kathleen mclaren whiteford born 1920 Lochgilphead died 1987 glasgow Rita McLaren lived tradeston 1961 abbotsford place were she married John murray swan his father donald morrison swan and mother Alice b Revell born in Renfrew, Gourock also lived 1961 abbotsford place
1961 name on John murray swan and Rita McLaren her marrage certificate rita ( formerly rena ) McLaren whiteford occupation cinema usherette
her mothers name Kathleen Margaret whiteford occupation domestic servant
i was brought up with my brother john and sister alice catherine margaret swan any imformation on my relations friends school pictures were they lived would be greatfull thanks rita mcskimming john and ritas daughter my email [email protected]

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Apr 2014 17:05

I think the infant in 1861 is Robert in 1871.
But she could also have had Charles, who wouldn't appear on any census.

If the marriage I posted at 14:29 is the correct one, her father's name was Charles.
And they already had Finlay - Duncan's father's name.

Gee

Gee Report 13 Apr 2014 16:45

Mothers death?



Web: Canada, GenWeb Cemetery Index


Name:Jessie Maclaren

Birth Date:1832

Age at Death:32

Death Date:1864

Cemetery:
Knox Presbyterian Church Cemetery

Burial Place:
Mitchell, Perth County, Ontario, Canada

URL:
http://geneofun.on.ca/cems/ON/...


Edit: Not sure about this as a child in the same grave Charles, died in 1860, cant be the one on the 1861 census above





ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Apr 2014 16:37

[EDIT: Maybe the wrong Robert, as mother Janet's ms was Paterson, per young Janet's marriage cert.]

Not relevant to info re Jeannie/Janet, but for interest:

Her brother Robert (the infant in 1861) ??:


Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 about Robert McLaren
Name: Robert McLaren
Death Date: 5 Jun 1923
Death County or District: Grey
Death State: Ontario
Death Country: Canada
Age: 70
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Birth Location: Ontario

Father: Duncan MacLaren, born Scotland.
Mother: Janet (Drummond ?), born Scotland.

Cause of death: rheumatism & epilepsy for years, also heart failure (endocarditis)

Gee

Gee Report 13 Apr 2014 16:30


1881 Census of Canada

Name:Jeannie McLaren

Gender:Female

Age:23

Birth Year:1858

Birthplace:Ontario

Religion:Canada Presbyterian Church

Nationality:Scotch (Scotish)

Occupation:Servant

Province:Ontario

District Number:172

District:Perth North

Sub-District Number:C

Subdistrict:Stratford

Division:1

Household Members:


Name

Age

Alexr. Matheson 45
Margeret Matheson 33
William G. Matheson 7
John R. Matheson 4
Matheson 1
Jeannie McLaren 23


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Apr 2014 16:28

Aha!


1861 Census of Canada about Finlay Maclaren
Name: Finlay Maclaren
Gender: Male
Age: 4
Birth Year: 1857
Birthplace: Canada
Home in 1861: Mitchell, Perth, Canada West
Religion: Free Church
Film Number: C-1065
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Finlay Maclaren 4

Also on the image, but not transcribed on Ancestry, are:

D MacLaren, merchant, born Scotland 1855
Jessie MacLaren, born Scotland 1855.
Jeanie A (?) MacLaren, born Canada, age 3 (possibly young Janet??)
Infant MacLaren, born Canada, age 1

Gee

Gee Report 13 Apr 2014 16:25


1861 Census of Canada

Name:Jessie Maclaren

Gender:Female

Age:25

Birth Year:1836

Birthplace:Scotland

Marital Status:Married

Home in 1861:Mitchell, Perth, Canada West

Religion:Free Church

Film Number:C-1065

Page Number:6

Household Members:


Jessie Maclaren 25


Other family members:

D Maclaren 31<<<Married 1855 Merchant
FinlayMaclaren 4
Jeanie a Maclaren 3
Infant Maclaren

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Apr 2014 16:23


1871 Census of Canada about Emma Maclaren
Name: Emma Maclaren
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1843
Birth Place: Ontario
Marital Status: Married
Religion: Presbyterian
Origin: Scottish (Scotish)
Province: Ontario
District: Welland
District Number: 19
Subdistrict: Fort Erie
Subdistrict Number: d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Duncan Maclaren 39
Emma Maclaren 28
Finlay Maclaren 14
Robert Maclaren 10
Duncan Maclaren 8
Louise Maclaren 6
Thos Maclaren 4
Alexander Maclaren 2
William A Wood 26


No sign of young Janet, but Finlay's there.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Apr 2014 16:07

I have deleted my useless piece of information. :-)

Well done girls!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Apr 2014 16:05

Good find, Gins!


Long shot - maybe mother Jessie/Janet died and Duncan remarried?

Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913 about Catharine Maclaren
Name: Catharine Maclaren
Date of Birth: 25 Nov 1871
Gender: Female
Birth County or District: Welland <<<<<<<<
Father's Name: Duncan Maclaren
Mother's name: Emma E Henry
Archive Name: Archives of Ontario
Archive Series: MS929
Archive Reel: 4

Gee

Gee Report 13 Apr 2014 15:52


Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928

Name:Finlay Maclaren

Birth Place:Mitchel Canada

Age:29

Estimated birth year:
abt 1857

Father Name:Duncan Maclaren

Mother Name:Jessie Maclaren

Spouse Name:Elizabeth Sills

Spouse's Age:27

Spouse Birth Year:abt 1859

Spouse Birth Place:England

Spouse Father Name:Thomas Sills

Spouse Mother Name:Elizabeth Sills

Marriage Date:15 Dec 1886

Marriage County or District:Welland


A brother to Janet?

Gee

Gee Report 13 Apr 2014 15:25

No other info on the image that helps



UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name:Janet McLaren

Port of Departure:New York, New York, United States

Arrival Date:28 May 1906

Port of Arrival:Glasgow, Scotland

Ship Name:Columbia

Search Ship Database:View the 'Columbia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Shipping line:Anchor Line

Official Number:115682


Maybe she was over to Scotland to marry, and look after the children? The families may be linked in some way

Do you know when her parents were born and married?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Apr 2014 15:04

For our ref:


1901 Scotland Census about Janet Mclaren
Name: Janet Mclaren
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relationship: Serv (Servant)
Gender: Female
Where born: Canada
Registration Number: 336
Registration district: Callander
Civil Parish: Callander
Town: Callander
County: Perthshire
Address: Keny Road The Parsonage
Occupation: Housekeeper
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 10
LINE: 16
Roll: CSSCT1901_117
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward H Waters 37
Lucy Pearce 50
Edith Manchester 35
Janet Mclaren 42
John Bragan 21

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Apr 2014 14:57

Wish you'd told us all that at the start, Donella - would have saved a lot of time!

Donella

Donella Report 13 Apr 2014 14:46

Janet Maclaren was born in Canada - not too sure why or when. She is listed as living in 1901 at The Parsonage Callander aged 42 and married my gt gt grandfather from Uig Skye in 1906. She went there after marriage to raise his family. She left Skye sometime after 1911 census. Her step daughters Isabella May married in Perth in 1911 and Catherine in Uig in 1911. Margaret and Johanna also left for work. Stepson William Archibald Gillies was killed in action WW1 and she raised her youngest stepson in Stirling, putting him to Maclaren High School. She died in Stirling. Family are wondering how she and widower Gt Gt Grandfather John Mackenzie managed to meet and why she relocated from family home. Hoping to trace relatives in the area. Love to see what this remarkable woman looked like and get more details of her life.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Apr 2014 14:29

This is the only marriage between a Duncan MacLaren and a J Paterson (or variation of spellings), anywhere in Scotland 1855 - 1863. Jessie is often an alternative to Janet:

1855 MCLAREN DUNCAN PATERSON JESSIE STIRLING /STIRLING 490/00 0057

He's 24, a teacher, born Killin, Perthshire, parents Findlay and Catherine.
She's 22, born Stirling, parents Charles and Jane.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Apr 2014 14:23

1906 MACKENZIE JOHN MACLAREN JANET PERTH /PERTH 387/00 0159

26/07/1906 at Salutation Hotel, Perth.
John MacKenzie, inspector of Poor and School board clerk, widower, age 56, of Woodbine, Snizort, Isle of Skye, parents William MacKenzie, head gamekeeper, deceased, and Margaret MacKenzie ms Gordon, deceased.

Janet MacLaren, hotel manager, spinster, age 44, of Ellengowan, Callander, parents Duncan MacLaren, teacher, deceased, and Janet MacLaren ms Paterson, deceased.


Janet's birth is difficult - there were 13 Janet MacLaren births in Perthshire 1860-64 - and no guarantee she was born in Perthshire in any case.

I can't find her (so far) in 1871 with parents Duncan and Janet.
Can't see her with John in 1911, either.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Apr 2014 13:06

That child would have been no more than 14 in 1906

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Apr 2014 12:48

Hi Donella and welcome to the boards.

Try using "Search" above .........and then click on "Search All Members Trees" from the drop down menu to see of you can find any members that have this family in their trees.

If you find any connections.........you can then contact the tree owners.

Prickles.