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I've sent Victoria a gentle reminder to return to her thread and see the extra help she has been given. :-)

She must have returned to 'Mark as answered', plus.....she sent someone a PM with feedback.

I'm guessing Victoria doesn't know how to find her thread as she has only posted once?

Some feedback would be good..................

where are you Victoria???????

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Charity Ludlam Name:Charity Ludlam
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1895
Registration district:Sheffield
Inferred County:Yorkshire West Riding
Volume:9c
Page:533


Parents in 1911...........


1911 England Census
about George Ludlam Name:George Ludlam
Age in 1911:51
Estimated birth year:abt 1860
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Sheffd, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Sheffield
County/Island:Yorkshire-West Riding
Country:England
Street address:4/1 Eyre Lane
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Table Knife Cutler
Registration district:Sheffield
Registration District Number:510
Sub-registration district:South Sheffield

Household Members:

George Ludlam 51
Emma Ludlam 49
Albert Ludlam 20
Bernard Ludlam 9

(Married 28 years.........8 children born, 7 living, 1 had died)


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Emma Galley Name:George Ludlum
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1884
Registration district:Ecclesall Bierlow
Inferred County:Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number:9c
Page Number:493
Records on Page:

Emma Galley
George Ludlam



1881 England Census
about George Ludlam Name:George Ludlam
Age:21
Estimated birth year:abt 1860
Relationship to Head:Son
Father:George Ludlam
Mother:Esther Ludlam
Gender:Male
Where born:Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Heeley
County/Island:Yorkshire
Country:England
Street address: 60 Spencer Rd

Occupation:Table Knife Cutler

Registration district:Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district:Ecclesall Bierlow

Household Members:

George Ludlam 56 (Table Knife Cutler)
Esther Ludlam 50
George Ludlam 21
Jane Ludlam 17
Benjamin Ludlam 13
Frederick Ludlam 10
Kate Ludlam 5

A member of Ancestry has this family in their tree which you can find on Ancestry's sister site here...

http://www.mundia.com/gb/

Helliwell Family Tree.............Tree Owner............annie14423

Well done Reggie, think you've hit the nail on its head!

So the next step would be the marriage certificate to confirm her fathers name.

Death
Name: COOPER, Carrie
Registration district: Macclesfield
County: Cheshire
Year of registration: 1985
Month of registration: February
Date of Birth:25 January 1895
Volume no: 35
Page no: 878
Reg no: 285
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1911 census

Person: LUDLAM, Charity Institution: Dr Barnardo's Girls Village Homes, DR BARNADO'S GIRLS VILLAGE HOMES

LUDLAM, Charity Inmate Single F 16 1895 Housework Lancs Sheffield

Refer to 1901 (above)..................

I can't help feeling that Charity became Carrie...............freebmd records having been checked - and the 'Ria' in 1901 was Maria

1911 census

Person: LUDLAM, Maria Institution: Dr Barnardo's Girls Village Homes, DR BARNADO'S GIRLS VILLAGE HOMES


LUDLAM, Maria Inmate F 13 1898 School No Information

I've had a good scout about on the 1901 census for Maria/Marie and haven't turned anything up. I also can't find Carrie in 1911.

1901

Name: Isaac Cooper
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Joseph S C Cooper
Mother: Mary Cooper
Birth Place: Hayfield, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Lyme Handley
Ecclesiastical parish: Prestbury
Town: Lyme Handley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Bollington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3306
Folio: 27
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph S C Cooper 55 <<<< 35 on image?
Mary Cooper 28
George J Cooper 5
Isaac Cooper 3
Joseph S O Cooper 1
Peter Wild 22 Brother-in-law


Good find for Maria's death BatMansDaughter :-)

Probably her death,


Name: Marie Cooper
Birth Date: 21 Apr 1897
Date of Registration: Mar 1981
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Macclesfield
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 35
Page: 0837

Births Sep 1904
COOPER Charles Herbert E Macclesfield 8a 111

Name: Charles H E Cooper
Birth Date: abt 1905
Date of Registration: Jun 1958
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Macclesfield
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 330



Births Mar 1900
Cooper Joseph Septimus Ol Macclesfield 8a 116


Deaths Dec 1936
Cooper Joseph S O 70 Macclesfield 8a 161

I agree. You need the marriage certificate as it certainly looks like Joseph Septimus Ollerenshaw Cooper is the father of Charles and Isaac (Ike) not Charles Stanley Cooper.

Victoria

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If Carrie born 1883 and Ester Ackroyd born 1876 are related to Maria then I don't think they were sisters.

Carrie and Esther's father was Edwin born 1856, he remarries in the early 1890's to Mary Jane. On the 1901 census there is 4 children to that marriage, the 1911 census also confirms it, however there is no Maria born to them!!

Think you'll need to buy the marriage certificate to see who Maria puts down as her father, I would also advise buying her birth certificate also, got a sneaky feeling she may have been illegitimate.

Name: Joseph Septimus Ollerenshaw Cooper
Probate Date: 13 Dec 1962
Death Date: 9 Aug 1962
Death Place: Cheshire, England
Registry: London, England

Joseph Septimus Ollerenshaw Cooperof Willow House, Highe D isley, Cheshire died 9 Aug 1962 at Stepping Hill Hospital, Stockport, Cheshire. Administration to Nellie Cooper, Widow. Effects £3,241. 18s.


Marriages Jun 1922
COOPER Joseph S O Jackson Macclesfield 8a 302
JACKSON Nellie Cooper Macclesfield 8a 302

1901 census

Person: LUDLAM, Charity Address: 12, 11, Allen Street, Sheffield

LUDLAM, George Head Married M 41 1860 Table Knife Hafter
Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW
LUDLAM, Emma Wife Married F 39 1862
Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW
LUDLAM, George Son M 15 1886 Table Knife Hafter
Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW
LUDLAM, Esther Daughter F 12 1889
Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW
LUDLAM, Albert Son M 9 1892
Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW
LUDLAM, Lily Daughter F 7 1894
Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW
LUDLAM, Charity Daughter F 6 1895
Sheffield, Yorkshire VIEW
LUDLAM, Ria Daughter F 3 1898
Sheffield, Yorkshire

Marriages Jun 1895
Cadwalder Joseph Wolstanton 6b 194
Cadwallader Joseph Wolstanton 6b 194
Cooper Joseph Septimus O Wolstanton 6b 194 <<<<<<<<<
Hancock Alice Wolstanton 6b 194
Wild Mary Wolstanton 6b 194 <<<<<<<<<<<

Births Jun 1926 (>99%)
Cooper Gertrude A Ludlam Macclesfield 8a 203

Births Mar 1872 OLLERENSHAW Joseph Septimus Wortley 9c 205

1871

Name: Joseph Sep Ollerenshaw
[Joseph Sebastian Ollerenshaw Cooper]
[Joseph Septimus Ollerenshaw Cooper]
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Cooper
Mother's name: Rachel Cooper
Gender: Male
Where born: Aston, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Town: Aston
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub-registration district: Chapel en le Frith
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 3636
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
John Cooper 33 Head
Rachel Cooper 25 Wife
Joseph Sep Ollerenshaw 5 Son
Anne Ollerenshaw 2 Daughter
Mary N Ollerenshaw 12 Sister-in-law
Harriet Ollerenshaw 15 Visitor


Marriages Dec 1865
Cooper John Chapel le F 7b 1154 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Middleton Martha Chapel le F. 7b 1154
Ollerenshaw Rachel Chapel le F 7b 1154 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Randle Robert Chapel le F. 7b 1154
WHEELDON William Chapel le F 7b 1154