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can anyone please help, searching for information on Bernard born 1915, lived Erdington Birmingham.married Irene Holmes.thank you. Mary

He married as Bernard, no middle name.
Where have you got the name Patrick from ?

Was his birth also registered as Bernard no middle name?

this is the only birth i can see for him in 1915

Births Dec 1915
EGAN Bernard SMITH Haslingden 8e 116

Roy

Was Bernard Patrick the father of Bernard?

Civil Registration event: Death


Name: EGAN, Bernard P
Registration district: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1964
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 76
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 674

His marriage

Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)
Egan Bernard P Rudge Aston 6d 1165

and birth of son Bernard

Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
Egan Bernard Rudge Aston 6d 578

Civil Registration event: Death

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Name: EGAN, Bernard
Registration district: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1998
Month of registration: January
Date of birth: 30 August 1916
District no: 0611M
Reg no: M4B
Ent no: 172
DOR: 198

So he was just Bernard, born 1916, son of Bernard Patrick.

Is this who you want to trace, or is it Bernard Patrick the father you are interested in ?



Bernard Patrick Egan
Birth Dec 1889 in Dublin South, Ireland

BIRTH
Bernard Patrick Egan

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1889

Registration district:Dublin South

Volume:2
Page:535
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Name:
Bernard Patrick Egan
Birth Year:abt 1887

Marriage Date:14 Nov 1915
Marriage Age:28
Marriage Place:Bordesley, St Andrew, Warwickshire, England

Spouse:Kate Rudge
Spouse Marriage Age:25

Father:Patrick Egan

Spouse's Father:Edward Rudge

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1891 census transcription details for: 8, Great Francis Street, Aston, Birmingham

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2421
Folio: 97
Page: 27
Reg. District: Aston
Sub District: Duddeston
Parish: Aston
Enum. District: 38
Ecclesiastical District: St Anne
City/Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: 8, Great Francis Street, Aston, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
EAGAN, Patrick Head Married M 44 1847 Bricklayers Labourer
Ireland
EAGAN, Sabina Wife Married F 38 1853
Warwick
EAGAN, John Son Single M 17 1874 General Labourer
Warwick
EAGAN, Mary A Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Warwick
EAGAN, Sarah Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
EAGAN, Thomas Son M 5 1886 Scholar
>>EAGAN, Bernard Son M 3 1888 Scholar
EAGAN, Ellen Daughter F 0 (8M) 1891


1911 census transcription details for: His Majestys Prison, HM PRISON

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN18060 RD384 SD2 ED30 SN9999
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: All Saints
Parish: Birmingham
Enum. District: 30
Address: Winson Green Road Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
EGAN, Bernard Prisoner Single M 24 1887 Formerly House Painter Warws Warwick

Picking up on Astra's 1911 for Bernard Snr

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Birmingham, England, Calendar of Prisoners, 1880-1891 and 1906-1913
about Bernard Egan

Name:Bernard Egan
Birth Year: abt 1887
Trial Age:22
Trial Date:26 Apr 1909
Civil Place:Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Court Name:Victoria Courts
Session:General Quarter Sessions of the Peace (Apr)
Session Date:26 Apr 1909
Source:General Quarter Sessions of the Peace
Reference Number:QS/B/20/83

Previous convictions
14 days, Police Court Birmingham 4 Dec 1903 (stealing 2 pairs of boots)
2 months Police Court Birmingham 14 Nov 1904 (loitering)
And 4 summary convictions drunkenness etc

Date of Warrant and received into custody 11 Feb.

Charged at Birmingham on 10 Dec 1909 was found to be having in his possessions without lawful excuse certain implements of housebreaking to wit, 1 jemmy and skeleton keys
(Francis George Rust was charged with the same)

Pleaded guilty and sentenced to 4 calendar months (hard labour) 1 year Police Supervision
...............

Birmingham, England, Calendar of Prisoners, 1880-1891 and 1906-1913
about Bernard Egan
Name: Bernard Egan
Birth Year: abt 1887
Trial Age: 25
Trial Date: 19 Mar 1912
Civil Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Court Name: Victoria Courts
Session: Winter Assizes (Mar)
Session Date: 13 Mar 1912
Source: Winter Assizes
Reference Number: QS/B/20/103a


In addition to the crimes listed on the previous record, he had been found guilty to
12 months and 2 years Police Supervision Birmingham Session 27 Jan 1911 (possessing housebreaking implements by night) – that must be why he was incarterated up at the 1911 census time
5 times for drunkenness.

Warrant issued 23 Feb, on remand from 16 Feb
His partner in crime this time was Arthur Edward Barley

At Birmingham on 16 Feb 1912 did feloniously and knowingly, without lawful excuse have in their custody and possession there 5 moulds, in and upon each of which was made and impressed the figures of the sides of a piece of the King’s current silver coin called a sixpence.
Pleaded guilty – 3 years Penal Servitude.
...........

In both cases, his occupation was a Painter.

Not sure if this casts any light on it:

Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955
Name: Bernard Patrick Egan
Year: 1939
Street address: 76 DOVEDALE ROAD
Residence Place: Birmingham

He had a code R and a "-" next to his name. R means he was recorded as resident but the "-" means he wasn't eligible to vote at that time.

At the same address was Bernard Egan who was eligible to vote by way of residency and occupation (codes R & O) and Kate Egan who was able to vote because of her husband's eligibility (her codes Rw and Dw).
http://www.electoralregisters.org.uk/codes.htm

Reading it that way it would seem that Bernard Patrick was the son and Bernard the father?

That sounds about right, MC

As a birth for Bernard Patrick Egan has been found in Dublin, are the Court records correct?

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Bernard Egan

Name:Bernard Egan
Estimated birth year:abt 1889
Age at enlistment:25
Birth Parish:Warwick <<<<
Birth County:Warwickshire
Document Year:1914
Regimental Number:16350
Regiment Name:Royal Warwickshire Regiment
Number of Images:6

Attested 10 Sep 1914, discharged 21 Dec 1914 as unlikely to make an efficient soldier due to deformed feet (slight varicose (left) leg? & being mentally deficient.

At his medical he was described as age 25 years and 222 days, 5ft 4 ½ inc weighing 133 lbs and an expanded chest measurement of 35 ins.

Florid complexion, blue eyes and brown hair with 2 scars on his right knee.

Next of kin his brother James Egan c/o Mr. Barley, 2 York Terrace, Regents PParrk Rd, Small Heath, B’ham

He was given a grant of £15, record dated 6 Feb 1918


Occupation Painter

There are 7 Egan/Rudge birth showing on Freebmd either in Aston or Birmingham between 1915 & 1930 - there might be more who would be siblings of Bernard Egan 1916.

Looking for Egan/Holmes births after 1941 when he married, on freebmd there are
1946, 1947 & 1949 in Birmingham
1951, 1953, 1954 in Liverpool North
1954, 1956, 1958 in Prescott.

The 3 in Birmingham are probably Bernard and Irene’s children – not so sure about the others. There is an Egan/Holmes marriage in Liverpool North in 1951 which would account for those. One in Sheffield in 1944 and Bradford 1952.
Names not given as they may be living.

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http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Thank you all so much for your help,it is rearly helpful what you have found . regards Mary .thank you all again.