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katqueen

katqueen Report 22 Mar 2014 19:45

That's true Jax. There are endless possibilities. Let's hope info on the birth certificate will help. Thanks both.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 22 Mar 2014 19:30

true jax, and her death have been registered under that name too, that was quite common

with her date of birth it could be possible to explore some of the possibilities but of course it is useful for death records only after 1969

jax

jax Report 22 Mar 2014 19:20

Or of course she could of just lived with someone never marrying but took their name

katqueen

katqueen Report 22 Mar 2014 18:47

Hi Joonie. Thanks for that. Lots of food for thought! I have just sent for her birth certificate in the last couple of days so hopefully it will be of some help. The last record I have is in Wavertree cottage home in the 1911 census as she doesn't seem to have gone back into the workhouse. There is no record of a marriage or a death under Sarah Meadley so the only other 2 possibilities are adoption or being sent as a migrant child. Both seem to offer nothing but dead ends.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 22 Mar 2014 18:26

just browsing recent threads ... and having a slight interest in home children as my Hoar ancestor's sister-in-law emigrated and married a home child who was one of the cheap farm labourers that many of the boys were sent out to become ...

the Sarah Medley who was sister of Frank Mossendew is a different person, see this 1911 census

Name: Sarah Medley
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Daughter
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
Joseph Henry Medley 52
Sarah Medley 42
Frank Furlan Mossendew 11
Joseph Henry Medley 7
Sarah Medley 5
Emily Leeming 41
Ada Leeming 39

her mother was formerly Mossendew, with her mother and stepfather Batty and son Frank in Leeds in 1901, married Joseph Medley in Leeds in 1901, that Sarah is their daughter, birth reg June quarter 1906 Leeds



one thing I was going to suggest was to get Sarah's birth certificate for her exact date of birth if you don't have it

after 1969 dates of birth are recorded in the deaths index and it can be searched at Ancestry by given name and dob only

to search that way you would be assuming
. she kept her given name after adoption if she was adopted which is likely if she was over 5 yrs old
. the person who reported her death knew her dob and reported it correctly

and of course there is the fact that Sarah is such a common name

but you might be able to make a list that you could then try tracing backward
e.g.
. 17 people named Sarah who were born on 1 September 1906 died after 1969
. 5 of them had Sarah as a middle name
. 8 of them were Sarah with a middle name
. 4 were plain Sarah

(I would not rule out Sarahs who had middle names although your Sarah didn't, as a middle name might have been given by an adoptive family ... it might also be that the Sarah was kept as a middle name)

the ruling out process would be tedious and in some cases impossible

for instance, finding who the Sarah Davies who died in Merthyr Tydfil in 1986 was, assuming she was a married woman, would never work without seeing the certificate and hoping a family member was the informant ... how many Sarahs must have married Davies men?! but then your Sarah probably didn't die in Merthyr Tydfil ...

others would be easier
for instance Sarah Elverston born 1 Sept 1906 who died in 1983 in Brentwood
was Sarah Stockwell who married Charles Elverston in 1931 in West Ham
the only Sarah + Elverston marriage 1924-1940
Sarah Stockwell's birth was reg Sep quarter 1906 in Epping

if you could find a Sarah whose surname was accounted for by a marriage but whose birth as the name in the marriage record could not be found ... or a Sarah whose name could not be accounted for by a marriage and whose birth could not be found as the name in the death record ...

the situation that would be impossible to identify would be if your Sarah married under a surname other than Meadly (or variant) and then emigrated ...

katqueen

katqueen Report 16 Mar 2014 16:57

Hi Shirley. Her mother died in 1911 and her father in 1946. Not quite sure where your Mossendew connection fits in and as far as I know she didn't have a brother only a sister Mary Ann who died I 1990.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Mar 2014 07:34

Her brother
Marriages Jun 1921
Kendrick Isabella Mossendew Leeds 9b 897
Mossendew Frank * Kendrick Leeds 9b 897


Births Mar 1900
Mossendew Frank Furlan Leeds 9b 519


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Mar 2014 07:19

Did you find when her parents died or what happened to her siblings ?

katqueen

katqueen Report 15 Mar 2014 17:56

Sorry about that. My computer is on a go slow and when it does decide to play ball it seems to be doing things twice!

katqueen

katqueen Report 15 Mar 2014 17:54

Jax. You may very well be right and that could be the answer as to why there is no record of a possible marriage. Idid find one and sent for the marriage certificate but the parents names weren't right. It sort of adds up doesn't it. Thanks for taking the trouble to answer me as I never thought of adoption as a possibility.

katqueen

katqueen Report 15 Mar 2014 17:52

Jax. You may very well be right and that could be the answer as to why there is no record of a possible marriage. Idid find one and sent for the marriage certificate but the parents names weren't right. It sort of adds up doesn't it. Thanks for taking the trouble to answer me as I never thought of adoption as a possibility.

jax

jax Report 15 Mar 2014 17:37

Surely if she had left the country in that name, someone would have found it and posted it on the other thread

She may have been adopted by someone after 1911 so you will not be able to find any record of her after that if you do not know what her new name was

katqueen

katqueen Report 15 Mar 2014 17:25

Hi Potty. Have tried googling for Australia and New Zealand but I think it was only Rootsweb that seemed to have anything to offer but it was a bit vague and you needed to pay for membership. The results were for Australia but couldn't find anything at all for New Zealand

Potty

Potty Report 15 Mar 2014 12:43

I remember looking for Sarah on the Canadian Home Children sites but found nothing. Have you Googled for Australia and New Zealand?

katqueen

katqueen Report 14 Mar 2014 23:27

Have checked for those years but no record of a Sarah Medley. Are there similar sites for Australia and New Zealand where I understand children from cottage homes were also sent?

katqueen

katqueen Report 14 Mar 2014 23:17

Thank you Roy. Will check that out and let you know if I get anywhere.

katqueen

katqueen Report 14 Mar 2014 23:14

Jax. I thought you meant was I personally related to Sarah Medley. My last thread was quite recent.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Mar 2014 23:13

try http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-130-e.html

Roy

katqueen

katqueen Report 14 Mar 2014 23:12

No. I havent posted about it before. I just remarked on it as a possible reason for not being able to find any trace of an ancestor. Sorry if I should have added it to the original thread but thought I had to start again as it was a completely new line of enquiry. The person I am seeking is Sarah Meadley ( in 1911 census as Medley) born in Liverpool in 1906 to Thomas and Ann Meadley.

jax

jax Report 14 Mar 2014 23:11

How is that not related it is about Sarah Meadley

There were also a couple of threads about her a couple of months ago which I remember working on