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11 Mar 2014 21:16 |
Lars Hultgren c 1851 born Sweden and wife Elena/Elna/Edna/Elenor born c 1852 Sweden
Living in London any information prior to 1891
Thanks Susie
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11 Mar 2014 21:26 |
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Lars Hultgren, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 " Name: Lars Hultgren Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Mary Bingham Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 15 Sep 1877 Event Place: Saint James,Westminster,London,England Father's Name: Parr Hultgren Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: John Bingham Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M14751-4 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 1042326
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11 Mar 2014 21:27 |
Lars Hultzen, "England and Wales Census, 1881" Name: Lars Hultzen Age (Original): 31 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1850 Birthplace: Sweden Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Status: Married Occupation: Tailor Address: 24 Great Pulteney St Event Place: St James Westminster, Middlesex, England Disability: Record Type: Household GS Film number: 1341028 Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 124 / 53 Page Number: 16 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Lars Hultzen M 31 Sweden Wife Mary Hultzen F 28 London, Middlesex, England Daughter Maria Hultzen F 2 London, Middlesex, England
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Mar 2014 21:28 |
unless they married in the UK then the 1891 is probably the earliest census if you note the birth year of what looks like their eldest child
1901 census transcription details for: 83, Berwick Street, St James Westminster
PrintClose National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 98 Folio: 77 Page: 46 Reg. District: Westminster Sub District: St James Westminster Parish: St James Westminster Enum. District: 8 A Ecclesiastical District: St Luke City/Municipal Borough: Address: 83, Berwick Street, St James Westminster County: London Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HULTGREN, Lars Head Married M 50 1851 Tailor Sweden Swedish Subj HULTGREN, Elenor Wife Married F 39 1862 Tailoress Sweden Swedish Subj HULTGREN, John Son Single M 14 1887 Westminster, London HULTGREN, Ellen Daughter F 11 1890 Westminster, London HULTGREN, Godfred Son M 8 1893 Walham Green, London HULTGREN, Edward Son M 7 1894 Westminster, London HULTGREN, Hilda Daughter F 3 1898 Westminster, London
Edit was looking for a marriage to an Elna type name . Wonder where Mary fits in
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Mar 2014 21:34 |
Civil Registration event: Death
Name: HULTGREN, Lars Registration district: Chelsea County: London Year of registration: 1922 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 72 Volume no: 1A Page no: 422
?? Civil Registration event: Death Name: HULTGREN, Elna Registration district: Westminster County: London Year of registration: 1902 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 41 Volume no: 1A Page no: 351
Edit Both buried in Hanwell Cemetery
Parish Record Collection - Burial Record First names: Elna Last name: Hultgren Burial year: 1902 Burial month: Dec Burial day: 20 Age: 41 Parish: Hanwell Cemetery County: Middlesex Page: - Father's First names: - Mother's First fnames: - Husband's First name: - Year of Death: - Month of Death: - Day of Death: - Record source: Westminster Burials- Transcripts Data provider: Westminster Archives
Parish Record Collection - Burial Record
First names: Lars Last name: Hultgren Burial year: 1922 Burial month: Nov Burial day: 23 Age: 72 Parish: Hanwell Cemetery County: Middlesex Page: 14 Father's First names: - Mother's First fnames: - Husband's First name: - Year of Death: - Month of Death: - Day of Death: - Record source: Westminster Burials- Transcripts Data provider: Westminster Archives Parish Record Collection - Burial Record
Parish Record Collection - Burial Record
PrintClose First names: Ellen Louisa Last name: Hultgren Burial year: 1886 Burial month: Aug Burial day: 25 Age: 23M Parish: Hanwell Cemetery County: Middlesex Page: - Father's First names: - Mother's First fnames: - Husband's First name: - Year of Death: - Month of Death: - Day of Death: - Record source: Westminster Burials- Transcripts Data provider: Westminster Archives
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Mar 2014 21:57 |
so names differ but the children seem to fit 1891 census transcription details for: 8, Brewer Street, St James Westminster, Westminster
PrintClose National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 85 Folio: 28 Page: 3 Reg. District: Westminster Sub District: St James Westminster Parish: St James Westminster Enum. District: 2 Ecclesiastical District: St James City/Municipal Borough: Address: 8, Brewer Street, St James Westminster, Westminster County: London Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HULTGREN, Lewis Head Married M 40 1851 Tailor Sweden HULTGREN, Edna Wife Married F 39 1852 Sweden HULTGREN, Mary Daughter Single F 11 1880 St James, London HULTGREN, Johan Son Single M 9 1882 St James, London HULTGREN, Edna E Daughter Single F 2 1889 St James, London HULTGREN, Godfred Son Single M 0 (6M) 1891
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11 Mar 2014 22:08 |
Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%) Beatley Arthur Herbert Pancras 1b 54 HULTGREN Lars Pancras 1b 54 Huttgren Lars Pancras 1b 54 WALTERS Louisa Pancras 1b 54 White Helen Louisa Pancras 1b 54
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11 Mar 2014 22:12 |
Mary Louisa Hultgren, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 " Name: Frederick Arthur Dumeril Birth Date: 1879 Birthplace: Age: 21 Spouse's Name: Mary Louisa Hultgren Spouse's Birth Date: 1879 Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: 21 Event Date: 04 Nov 1900 Event Place: St. John The Baptist'S Church, Westminster, Middlesex, England Father's Name: Frederick Arthur Dumeril Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Lars Hultgren Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01321-6 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1468963 Reference ID: p205 #409
Births Jun 1879 (>99%) Hultgren Marie Looesa St. Giles 1b 635
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11 Mar 2014 22:17 |
Name: Lars Hultgren
Estimated birth year:abt 1850 Age:56
Spouse Name:Louisa Walter Spouse Age:54
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:24 Dec 1906
Parish:St Pancras St James Borough:Camden Father Name:Per Hultgren Register Type:Parish Register
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MarieCeleste
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11 Mar 2014 22:21 |
On the image for the 1877 marriage (a first marriage?) that safc posted above, Lars is a tailor and his father was a farmer.
Mary's father was a tailor.
Neither previously married, both of full age and give address as 48 Poland Street.
Witnesses: Thomas Walters and Ann Bingham.
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safc
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11 Mar 2014 22:35 |
message off susan the 1877 marriage is not the correct one
iv'e asked susan to reply on this tread
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MarieCeleste
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11 Mar 2014 22:47 |
I would be very surprised if that 1877 marriage wasn't him - all the details tie up.
I would suspect that the daughter Mary that is on the 1891 census is the Marial that was with Lars and first wife on the 1881.
But if Susan has information to the contrary then please let us know details of his marriage to Elna.
Would be worth buying this birth certificate to check mother's name:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Marie Louisa Hultgren Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1879 Registration district: St Giles Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 635
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12 Mar 2014 05:18 |
Here's another record, presumably abt to be judged not the right one:
Deaths Jun 1883 (>99%) Hultgren Marian 28 Westminster 1a 351
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