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Margaret
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10 Mar 2014 13:54 |
On 1881 Census (Spinney Spring, Shepshed) I have John Bettridge and wife Martha nee Bottrill. She is said to be born Walton on Trent abt 1853 - age 28 on census. I have tried to locate her on 1871 census but to no avail. I have also tried freebmd for the marriage of these two but again no success. I wonder if anyone would mind having a go in case I have missed her. Many thanks.
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2014 14:00 |
Where was the 'husband' in 1871?
I presume her maiden name is taken from a child's birth cert?
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2014 14:04 |
This is from freebmd!
Marriages Sep 1873 (>99%) BETTRIDGE John Uttoxeter 6b 489 Bottrill Martha Uttoxeter 6b 489
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2014 14:05 |
Always use variants when you can't find people.....................
1871 census
Person: BOTTRELL, Martha Address: Hawfield Lane, Winshill
BOTTRELL, William Head M 45 1826 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRELL, Mary A Wife F 46 1825 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRELL, John Son M 22 1849 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRELL, Martha Daughter F 18 1853 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRELL, Walter Son M 15 1856 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRELL, Fred Son M 13 1858 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRELL, Clara Daughter F 11 1860 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRELL, Arthur Son M 8 1863 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRELL, Lucy Daughter F 5 1866 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRELL, John Brother M 47 1824 Leicestershire
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Margaret
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10 Mar 2014 14:07 |
Sorry Reggie - I must be blind or something... specsavers here I come. Thank you so much. The location of the marriage surprises me as Martha born Walton on Trent and John born Measham. 1871 John living Stapenhill with parents and sibling and of course no info re Martha.
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2014 14:08 |
1861 census
Person: BOTTERILL, Walter Address: Kimcote, County Of Leicester
BOTTERILL, Willm Head Married M 35 1826 Framework Knitter Walton, Leicestershire VIEW BOTTERILL, Mary A Wife Married F 36 1825 Walton, Leicestershire VIEW BOTTERILL, John Brother Unmarried M 36 1825 Gardener Walton, Leicestershire VIEW BOTTERILL, John Son M 12 1849 Scholar Walton, Leicestershire VIEW BOTTERILL, Sarah Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Walton, Leicestershire VIEW BOTTERILL, Martha Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar Walton, Leicestershire VIEW BOTTERILL, Eliza Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar Walton, Leicestershire VIEW BOTTERILL, Walter Son M 4 1857 Scholar Walton, Leicestershire VIEW BOTTERILL, Fred Son M 2 1859 Scholar Walton, Leicestershire VIEW BOTTERILL, Clare Daughter F 0 (5M) 1861 Walton, Leicestershire
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Margaret
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10 Mar 2014 14:09 |
Thank you again ~Reggie. I will remember to use variants in future. I notice that Martha's place of birth has changed from Walton on Trent , Derbyshire to Leicestershire.
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2014 14:12 |
1851 census
Person: , John Address: Walton In Knaptoft
BOTHILL, John Head Married M 62 1789 Frame Work Knitter Walton, Leicestershire VIEW , Mary Wife Married F 64 1787 Frame Work Knitter Walton, Leicestershire VIEW , John Son Unmarried M 24 1827 Gardner Walton, Leicestershire VIEW , William Son Married M 22 1829 Frame Work Knitter Walton, Leicestershire VIEW , Mary Ann Daughter In Law Married F 22 1829 Frame Work Knitter Walton, Leicestershire VIEW , Eliza Daughter F 4 1847 Walton, Leicestershire VIEW , John Son M 2 1849 Walton, Leicestershire
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2014 14:16 |
1841 census
Person: BOTTRILL, John Address: Walton In Knaptoft, Knaptoft, Walton
BOTTRILL, John M 50 1791 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRILL, John M 15 1826 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRILL, William M 15 1826 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRILL, Alfred M 2 1839 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRILL, James F 0 (7 weeks) 1841 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRILL, Mary F 54 1787 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRILL, Matilda F 15 1826 Leicestershire VIEW BOTTRILL, Sarah F 10 1831 Leicestershire VIEW BRORY, Elizabeth F 56 1785 Leicestershire
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2014 14:17 |
I think you'll find the correct birthplace is as per the earlier censuses
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PricklyHolly
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10 Mar 2014 14:28 |
1881 England Census about William Botterill Name:William Botterill[William Bottrill] Age:56 Estimated birth year:abt 1825 Relationship to Head:Head Spouse:Mary Ann Botterill Gender:Male Where born:Walton, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish:Winshill County/Island:Derbyshire Country:England Street address:4 Mill Hill Lane Marital Status:Married Education: Employment status: Occupation:Green Grocer Registration district:Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district:Burton Upon Trent
Household Members:
William Botterill 56 Mary Ann Botterill 57 Walter Botterill 24 Fred Botterill 22 Clara J. Botterill 20 Frank Leathcote 2 (Nephew) John Botterill 59 (Lodger)
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10 Mar 2014 14:41 |
1891 England Census about William Botterill Name:William Botterill Age:65 Estimated birth year:abt 1826 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Mary A Botterill Gender:Male
Where born:Walton Ly Kimcote, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish:Winshill Ecclesiastical parish:St Mark Town:Winshill County/Island:Staffordshire Registration district:Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district:Burton upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: Household Members:
William Botterill 65 Mary A Botterill 66 Frank Botterill 12 (Grandson)
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2014 15:53 |
1891 census
Person: BETTERIDGE, Martha Address: 21, Nelson Street, Winshill, Burton Upon Trent
BETTERIDGE, John Head Married M 43 1848 Brickyard Labourer Marsham, Leicestershire VIEW BETTERIDGE, Martha Wife Married F 37 1854 Walton, Leicestershire VIEW ********************************************** BETTERIDGE, Lilly Daughter Single F 16 1875 Stapenhill, Derbyshire VIEW BETTERIDGE, William Son M 14 1877 Brickyard Labourer Leicester, Leicestershire VIEW BETTERIDGE, Arthur Son M 12 1879 Scholar Derby, Derbyshire VIEW BETTERIDGE, Gertrude Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar Charnwood Forest, Leicestershire VIEW BETTERIDGE, Beatrice Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Shobnal, Staffordshire VIEW BETTERIDGE, John Son M 4 1887 Scholar Barnsley, Yorkshire VIEW BETTERIDGE, Samuel Son M 2 1889 Stapenhill, Derbyshire
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2014 16:05 |
Try as I may, I cannot see these people in 1881....................could someone post the record, please.
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alviegal
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10 Mar 2014 16:14 |
??? This appears to be them Reggie. Though this can't be the 1881 found by Margaret.
1881 census transcription details for: 8, Finney Spring, Sheepshed Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 3147 Folio: 18 Page: 29 Reg. District: Loughborough Sub District: Loughborough Parish: Sheepshed Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 8, Finney Spring, Sheepshed County: Leicestershire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born KIRK, George Head Married M 35 1846 Brick Maker Measham, Leicestershire KIRK, Martha Wife Married F 27 1854 Walton, Leicestershire KIRK, Lilly Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Staplehill, Derbyshire KIRK, William Son Single M 4 1877 Leicester, Leicestershire KIRK, Arthur Son Single M 2 1879 Derby, Derbyshire
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2014 16:46 |
That was all I could find......thought I was losing the plot!
I don't think Margaret will come back to this now................which would be a pity
I'd be fascinated to learn what she found for 1881...............
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alviegal
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10 Mar 2014 16:47 |
1851 census transcription details for: Pot Kilns, Measham Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 2084 Folio: 159 Page: 25 Reg. District: Ashby de la Zouch Sub District: Measham Parish: Measham Enum. District: 6C Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Pot Kilns, Measham County: Leicestershire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born BETTERIDGE, John Head Married M 29 1822 Brick Maker Measham BETTERIDGE, Ann Wife Married F 30 1821 Overseal, Leicestershire BETTERIDGE, Mary Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar Measham BETTERIDGE, Samuel Son M 3 1848 Measham >>BETTERIDGE, John Son M 1 1850 Measham
1861 census transcription details for: Stapenhill Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 1963 Folio: 34 Page: 7 Reg. District: Burton-Upon-Trent Sub District: 3 Gresley Parish: Stapenhill Enum. District: 10 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Stapenhill County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born BETTERIDGE, John Head Married M 40 1821 Brickmaker Measham, Derbyshire BETTERIDGE, Ann Wife Married F 41 1820 Overseal, Derbyshire BETTERIDGE, Samuel Son Unmarried M 63 1798 (should be 13) Scholar Measham, Derbyshire >>BETTERIDGE, John Son Unmarried M 11 1850 Scholar Measham, Derbyshire BETTERIDGE, Sarah A Daughter Unmarried F 8 1853 Scholar Measham, Derbyshire BETTERIDGE, George Son Unmarried M 6 1855 Scholar Stapenhill, Derbyshire BETTERIDGE, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 2 1859 Scholar Stapenhill, Derbyshire BETTERIDGE, Emely Daughter Unmarried F 0 (9M) 1861 Stapenhill, Derbyshire
1871 census transcription details for: Stapenhill, Stapenhill Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 2901 Folio: 80 Page: 7 Reg. District: Burton upon Trent Sub District: Gresley Parish: Stapenhill Enum. District: 12 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Stapenhill, Stapenhill County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born BETTRIDGE, John Head M 52 1819 Derbyshire BETTRIDGE, Ann Wife F 51 1820 Leicestershire BETTRIDGE, Sam Son M 24 1847 Derbyshire >>BETTRIDGE, John Son brickmaker M 22 1849 Derbyshire BETTRIDGE, George Son M 17 1854 Derbyshire BETTRIDGE, Eliza Daughter F 13 1858 Derbyshire BETTRIDGE, Emily Daughter F 11 1860 Derbyshire BETTRIDGE, Alice Daughter F 9 1862 Derbyshire
and his parents and brother.
1881 census transcription details for: 36, St Peters St, Stapenhill (Derby) Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 2759 Folio: 68 Page: 14 Reg. District: Burton upon Trent Sub District: Gresley Parish: Stapenhill (Derby) Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 36, St Peters St, Stapenhill (Derby) County: Staffordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born BETTRIDGE, John Head Married M 60 1821 Brickmaker Labr Measham, Leicestershire BETTRIDGE, Ann Wife Married F 60 1821 Overseal, Leicestershire WHITE, Samuel Grand Son Single M 13 1868 Brickmaker Labr Stapenhill, Derbyshire
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alviegal
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10 Mar 2014 17:25 |
Seems like John changed his name for the 1881 census? Very strange. I also would like Margaret to return and paste the 1881 census that she found because I'm not having much luck in finding it!!
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Chris Ho :)
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10 Mar 2014 17:35 |
http://www.mygenesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1082873?d=asc
(might be from above!)
Chris :)
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ErikaH
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10 Mar 2014 22:33 |
Really not playing the game to ask without telling how much work has already been done on this...................
And, as the info posted here was already known to Margaret, not sure why she says Martha's birthplace was recorded as Walton on Trent...................it wasn't!
Makes me wish I hadn't bothered........................
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