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Just to show that the Minnie E Underwood who died in 1944 that Kath posted earlier was actually Minnie Edith, so not a typo for Minnie Frances.

Name: Minnie Edith Underwood
Probate Date: 15 Sep 1945
Death Date: 26 Aug 1944
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: Llandudno


of the Heath Chaldon, Caterham (wife of Joseph Francis William Underwood)....probate to the husband.

Death Index, 1916-2007 about Minnie E Underwood
Name: Minnie E Underwood
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Sep 1944
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Surrey South eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 638

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Given that Minnie had admin of her brother's will in 1960, she is unilkely to have died in 1944?

Very different location, but birthdate could tally if they waited nearly the whole 6 weeks to register the birth:

Name: Minnie Frances Underwood<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1891<<<<<<<<<<<
Date of Registration: Sep 1980
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Northampton
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 7
Page: 2071

Name: HOILE, Minnie Frances
Registration district: Woolwich
County: London
Year of registration: 1891<<<<<<<
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 1D
Page no: 1235

Looks like Minnie didn't get baptised until after the family had been deployed to India:

First Name Minnie Frances
Last Name Hoile
Date Of Baptism 22 May 1892
Date Of Birth 23 Feb 1891
Father's First Name George Vincent
Mother's First Name Frances
Place Nowgong
Presidency Bengal
Father's Last Name Hoile
Mother's Last Name -
Archive Reference N-1-221
Folio 228
Page -
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal

Again, Father a Bombadier, 54th Field Battery Royal Artillery

Minnie's brother:

Name: George William Charles Henry Hoile
Probate Date: 20 Apr 1960
Death Date: 28 Aug 1959
Death Place: Guildford
Registry: London, England

Died St Luke's Hospital Guildford. Admin to Minnie Frances Underwood widow. Effects £1723 16s 8d.

EDIT: Does this mean Minnie DIDN'T die in 1944??????

Name: George W C H Hoile
Birth Date: abt 1894
Date of Registration: Sep 1959
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Surrey North Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 704

1901 census:

Name: George Vincent Hoile
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Sergt (Sergeant)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Portland, Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Heavitree
Ecclesiastical parish: Heavitree
Town: Heavitree
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

George Vincent Hoile 30 c1871 Portland, Dorset, England
Frances Hoile 31 c1870 Normandynear, Guilford
George William Hoile 7 c1896 Allahabax, India
Minnie Frances Hoile 10 c1891 Albion Road, Woolwich

Birth:

First Name George William Charles Henry
Last Name Hoile
Date Of Baptism 21 Dec 1893
Date Of Birth 06 Dec 1893
Father's First Name George Vincent
Mother's First Name Frances
Place Allahabad,St David
Presidency Bengal
Father's Last Name Hoile
Mother's Last Name -
Archive Reference N-1-233
Folio 228
Page -
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal

Father a Bombadier 54th Field Artillery R A

Marriage of her parents:

Name: George Vincent Hoile - corporal R A
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1868
Marriage Date: 23 Feb 1889
Archive Provided Parish: Aldershot, St Michael the Archangel
Parish as it Appears: Aldershot
Spouse:
Frances Hoare
Spouse Age: 21
Father: William Hoile - Chief Officer R N
Spouse Father: Thomas Hoare - blacksmith
Reference Number: 5185/3

Birde and groom both resident Aldershot.

Military record can be found on FMP for George:

British Army Service Records 1760-1915

First name(s): George Vincent
Last name: HOILE
Calculated year of birth: 1870
Parish of birth: Portland
Town of birth: Portland
County of birth: Dorset
Age at attestation: 14 years 2 months
Attestation date: 13 October 1884
Attestation corps: Royal Artillery
Attestation soldier number: 44690
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97

13 images .

Says he was a man of 'exceptional intelligence'.

He was discharged from the Royal Artillery in Nov 1908 aged 38 years and 3 months.5ft 8" Blue eyes, brown hair, fresh complexion. He was intending to live at 28 Chivalry Rd, Wandsworth Common.

He was a Battery Quarter Master Serjeant when he was discharged

AT one point his Next of kin is listed as father ' William Hoile H M S Warspite', but this has been crossed out and replaced by 'wife Frances with husband'.

EDIT:

The Warspite was a training vessel, William Hoile appears to have been on the staff there:

SHIPS IN PORT IN KENT 1881 - PART 1

Marine Society Ship "Warspite" at Charlton Piers, Woolwich, Kent, England

STAFF & HOUSEHOLD


Arthur Woodhall GILLETT W 51 M Crayford, Kent, England Captain Royal Navy
Maud Meyrick GILLETT 11 F Christiana (B S B), Norway Daur No Occupation
Katherine Seale GILLETT 3 F Cowes, Isle of Wight, Hampshire Daur No Occupation
Susan JASS W 49 F Diptford, Devon, England Domestic Servant
Susan Maud JASS U 18 F Dartmouth, Devon, England Visitor No Occupation
Rhoda LANGMEAD U 18 F Dartmouth, Devon, England Domestic Servant
Emma ROPER U 20 F Bee Sands, Devon, England Domestic Servant
Joseph BRITTER M 40 M Maidstone, Kent, England Officer Schoolmaster
John DONOVAN M 46 M Queenstown, Ireland Ch Officer (Head)Occ: Naval Pensioner Gunner
Anne DONOVAN U 17 F Granton, Scotland Daur No Occupation
Thomas WEBBER M 48 M Falmouth, Cornwall, England Officer Naval Pensioner
Henry BROOKS U 48 M Woolwich, Kent, England Officer Naval Pensioner Carpenter
William W. JONES M 41 M Chatham, Kent, England Officer Naval Pensioner
William HOILE W 41 M Dover, Kent, England Officer Naval Pensioner<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Could this be her death (perhaps the initial F was mistaken for an E on the original):-

Name: UNDERWOOD, Minnie E
Registration district: Surrey South Eastern
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1944
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 58
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 638

Kath. x

I think she is probably Minnie Frances (Nancy could be short for Frances):-

Name: HOILE, Minnie Frances
Registration district: Woolwich
County: London
Year of registration: 1891
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 1D
Page no: 1235

In the 1911 census she is living in Croydon Registration district:-

1911 census transcription details for: 69 Richmond Road Thornton Heath Surrey

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN3358 RG78PN126 RD39 SD3 ED36 SN65
Reg. District: Croydon
Sub District: West Croydon
Parish: Croydon
Enum. District: 36

Address: 69 Richmond Road Thornton Heath Surrey
County: Surrey

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

HOILE, George Vincent Head Married M 40 1871 Government Clerk Portland Dorset
HOILE, Frances Wife Married
22 years F 41 1870 Normandy Nr Guildford Surrey
HOILE, Minnie Frances Daughter Single F 20 1891 Machinist Dressmaking Woolwich Kent<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kath. x

Just a line to thank you for the helpful information provided to me concerning Thomas Underwood.
Kind regards
Valerie

Valerie

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Would appear to be 2 births to the couple in Croydon RD in 1920 and 1926

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Name: Minnie F Hoile
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1916
Registration District: Croydon
County: Surrey
Event Place: Croydon, Surrey, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Underwood
Volume: 2A
Page: 668
Line Number: 13
Minnie F Hoile probably married one of the following people
Name: Thomas H Underwood

Just a guess - ???Minnie Florence???

Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%)
Hoile Minnie F Underwood Croydon 2a 668
Lossby Sidney Moore Croydon 2a 668
Olney Louisa Ash Croydon 2a 668
Underwood Thomas H Hoile Croydon 2a 668

Do you know anything else about him?

ADDED I think she was Minnie Frances, having checked births.

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Name: Thomas Henry Underwood
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1891
Registration District: Croydon
County: Surrey
Event Place: Croydon, Surrey, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3):
Volume: 2A
Page: 211
Line Number: 261

If this is the Thomas underwood you refer to, then there is a possible marriage as shown below. Her name is Minnie, but you say "possibly called Florence or Nancy"

Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: UNDERWOOD, Thomas Henry
Registration district: Croydon
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1891
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 211
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1911 census transcription details for: Sussex Villa Coombe Avenue Croydon

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN3294 RG78PN125 RD39 SD2 ED13 SN128
Reg. District: Croydon
Sub District: South Croydon
Parish: Croydon
Enum. District: 13
Address: Sussex Villa Coombe Avenue Croydon
County: Surrey
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
UNDERWOOD, Richard Head Married M 52 1859 Jobbing Carpenter And Decoration Eastbourne Sussex
UNDERWOOD, Mary Ann Wife Married 27 years F 52 1859 Eastbourne Sussex
UNDERWOOD, Nellie Elizabeth Daughter Single F 26 1885 Eastbourne Sussex
UNDERWOOD, Florrie Daughter Single F 23 1888 Eastbourne Sussex
UNDERWOOD, Thomas Henry Son Single M 20 1891 Joiner Croydon Surrey
UNDERWOOD, Richard Alfred Son Single M 18 1893 Dentist Mechanic Croydon Surrey
UNDERWOOD, Jessie Daughter Single F 16 1895 Croydon Surrey

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Civil Registration event: Marriage

MarriageFinder: Thomas H Underwood married Minnie F Hoile
Name: UNDERWOOD, Thomas H
Registration district: Croydon
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1916
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Hoile
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 668

Is this him Valerie? Middle initial might help if so.


1911 England Census about Thomas Henry Underwood
Name: Thomas Henry Underwood
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Croydon, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: Sussex Villa, Coombe Avenue, Croydon
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Joiner
Registration district: Croydon
Registration District Number: 39
Sub-registration district: South Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 128
Piece: 3294
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Underwood 52
Mary Ann Underwood 52
Nellie Elizabeth Underwood 26
Florrie Underwood 23
Thomas Henry Underwood 20
Richard Alfred Underwood 18
Jessie Underwood 16

I am looking for the wife of Thomas Underwood (1981) possibly called Florence or Nancy - lived in Croydon, Surrey, (1894-1944). Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Valerie