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9 Mar 2014 13:24 |
Thank everyone for the information I have received concerning William Burt Roskilly which has helped enormously with moving my tree onward.
Kind regards Valerie
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Kucinta
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7 Mar 2014 08:07 |
Valerie,
I realise you're new to the boards, but the fact that you added this enquiry about William to your previous thread on Thomas Underwood AND started this new thread, has resulted in a duplication of work.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1338032?page=1
Joseph Burt married Margaret Holley, who like Elizabeth Holley who married Thomas Roskilly, a tailor, was the daughter of William Holley a silk dyer
Details on the other thread along with marriage and baptisms for Thomas's parents William Quiller Roskilly and Sarah Williams Quiller etc. Also marriage for Sarah's parents.
Please don't put the same request in two places in future. I worked on the other thread as your request for information there on both Henry Reed and William Burt Roskilly had brought it to the top of 'my threads', as I'd replied previouslyto your original query about Thomas Underwood, so didn't see your duplication of the request until AFTER I'd done the work. :-(
Thanks
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7 Mar 2014 07:11 |
I think this is Elizabeth in 1871, with children .................... but I can't find Thomas!
The lodger William could be Thomas' brother????
1871 Census
Name: Elizabeth Roskilly Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Ripley Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Household schedule number: 256 Piece: 564 Folio: 23 Page Number: 39
Elizabeth Roskilly 28 Tailor's wife Jane Roskilly 8 b. ca 1863, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, Scholar Ada Roskilly 6 b.ca 1865, St Georges, Middlesex Thomas Roskilly 4 b.ca 1867, Whitechapel, Middlesex Elizabeth Roskilly 1 b.ca 1870, Bethnal Green William Roskilly 38 b.ca 1833, Boro, Surrey, Lodger, Tailor Mary A Roskilly 21 b.ca 1850, Bethnal Green, Lodger's Wife
Address:- 16 Union Row
hmmm ............ does look as though William is Thomas' brother
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Roskilly
Name: William Roskilly Spouse Name: Mary Ann Minor Spouse Age: 19 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 16 Sep 1867 Parish: Bethnal Green St James the Great Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: William Roskilly Spouse Father: John Minor Register Type: Parish Register
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William Of Full Age Widower Occupation:- Tailor Address:- Bethnal Green Father occupation:- Tailor
Mary Ann Age 19 Spinster no occupation shown Address:- Bethnal Green Father occupation:- Painter
Witnesses:- Louisa Rosskilly (her mark) and Louis Burk (or Burt)
A Robert Lewis Burk married Louisa Rosskelley 9 Dec 1861, St James, Shoreditch. Father William Roskilly, Tailor. Witnesses Thomas Roskilly and Martha Towndsend (???sp)
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SylviaInCanada
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7 Mar 2014 05:49 |
This is the baptism of the William Anthony Roskilly whose birth was registered in June quarter 1875, as found by Maureen
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about William Anthony Quiller Roskilly
Name: William Anthony Quiller Roskilly Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 16 May 1875 Father's Name: Thomas Roskilly Mother's name: Elizabeth Roskilly Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
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Address:- 5 George St Father occupation:- Tailor Birth date:- 20 April 1875
Address of Thomas Roskilly, widower, on that 1881 Census ............... 9 George Street
Incidentally, the youngest child on that 1881 Census, James, is only 5 months old
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7 Mar 2014 05:22 |
??????? Elizabeth Roskill(e)y's death???
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Elizabeth Roskilly
Name: Elizabeth Roskilly Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1877 Age at Death: 34 Registration district: Mile End Old Town Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 345
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SylviaInCanada
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7 Mar 2014 05:19 |
This looks like the Roskill(e)y family in 1851
1851 Census
Name: William Roskilly Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1810 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Roskilly Gender: Male Where born: Devonport, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St George in the East County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: St George In The East Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 72 Piece: 1547 Folio: 214 Page Number: 13
William Roskilly 41 Tailor Sarah Roskilly 45 b.ca 1806, Devonport, Middlesex, Tailoress Mary Roskilly 19 b.ca 1832, St Johns, Housbydown, Surrey, Tailoress <<<< should be Horsleydown William Roskilly 17 b.ca 1834, St Johns Horsleydown, Surrey, Tailor Richard Roskilly 14 b.ca 1837, St Johns, Horsleydown, Tailor Thomas Roskilly 12 b.ca 1839, Shoreditch, Middlesex Louisa Roskilly 8 b.ca 1843, St George est, Middlesex Francenia Roskilly 4 b.ca 1847, Spitalfields, Middlesex Lavenia Roskilly 1 b.ca 1850, St James Scha, Middlesex
Address:- 24 Marman (??sp) Street
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7 Mar 2014 05:08 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Elizabeth Holley
Name: Elizabeth Holley Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Age: 18 Spouse Name: Thomas Roskilly Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 28 Jan 1861 Parish: Shoreditch St James Borough: Hackney Father Name: William Holley Spouse Father: William Roskilly Register Type: Parish Register
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Thomas Bachelor of full age Occupation:- Tailor Address:- 108 Long Alley Father occupation:- Tailor
Elizabeth Spinster Age 18 no occupation shown Address:- same as Thomas Father occupation:- Silk Dyer
Witnesses:- Richard Roskilley and Rosetar (??sp) Roskilley
A Richard Roskilley married Rosetta Hooper in 1860, and could be Thomas' brother .............
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Richard Roskilly
Name: Richard Roskilly Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Age: 23 Spouse Name: Rosetta Hooper Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 6 Aug 1860 Parish: Shoreditch St James Borough: Hackney Father Name: William Roskilly Spouse Father: William Hooper Register Type: Parish Register
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Richard Bachelor Age:- 23 Occupation:- Tailor Address:- 108 Long Alley Father occupation:- Tailor
Rosetta Spinster Age 20 no occupation shown Address:- same as Richard Father occupation:- Fishmonger
Witnesses:- Thomas Roskilly and Mary Ann Roskilly
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MaureeninNY
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6 Mar 2014 22:04 |
Marriages Sep 1868 Burt Joseph Thomas Bethnal Green 1c 461
Holley Margaret Bethnal Green 1c 461 ................ Marriages Mar 1861 HOLLEY Elizabeth Shoreditch 1c 244 ROSKILLY Thomas Shoreditch 1c 244 .......... ?????Births Jun 1875 ROSKILLY William Anthony Q Mile End 1c 516 I wonder if his name was changed along the way to reflect the fact that the Burts semi-adopted him??? His baptism is in Ancestry and shows father as Thomas mother Elizabeth.
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Catherine
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6 Mar 2014 20:31 |
This looks to be a death to go with the birth for William Burt Burdice I posted earlier:-
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about William Burt Burdick Name: William Burt Burdick Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1893 Age at Death: 20 Registration district: Hackney Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 316
...........so we can rule that one out.
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Catherine
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6 Mar 2014 19:56 |
Continuing from 1891 census for Joseph Burt, here he is in 1881:-
1881 England Census about Joseph T. Burt Name: Joseph T. Burt Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Margaret Burt Gender: Male Where born: Limehouse Civil Parish: Hamlet County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 6 Claremont Place Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Rope Maker Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 476 Folio: 61 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Joseph T. Burt 40 Margaret Burt 40 Margaret Ropley 13 - 1868 born: Mile End Old Town William Ropley 5 - 1876 born: Mile End Old Town
Could William be the same William as in 1891?
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Catherine
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6 Mar 2014 18:38 |
Valerie, Doesn't look as though you need to buy the certificate as you can view it for free on ancestry. I have posted the info above, gives father as Thomas a Tailor.
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Catherine
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6 Mar 2014 18:36 |
This Thomas Roskilly is a Tailor?
1881 England Census about Thomas Roskilly Name: Thomas Roskilly Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Male Where born: Spitalfields Civil Parish: Hamlet County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 9 George St Marital Status: Widow
Occupation: Tailor Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 477 Folio: 105 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Roskilly 41 Thomas Roskilly 15 Francis Roskilly 8 James Roskilly 5
Correct area, so?
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6 Mar 2014 18:32 |
Hi Catherine
Thank you for the speedy reply and yes I will get the marriage certificate to confirm the information given.
Kind regards Valerie
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Catherine
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6 Mar 2014 18:30 |
Gins, William was born in abt.1874 not 1907!
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Catherine
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6 Mar 2014 18:28 |
Can't see a birth under Roskilly, so wondering if he was illegitimate, or adopted? There is this:-
Births Dec 1872 (>99%) Burdice William Burt Poplar 1c 711
................as his uncle in 1891 census has surname Burt, maybe?
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6 Mar 2014 18:25 |
Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
ROSKILLY William Birt W. Ham 4a 88
You should buy the certificate
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Catherine
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6 Mar 2014 18:21 |
Possible 1891 (name is mistranscribed:-
1891 England Census about William Nusstrelley Name: William Nusstrelley [William Roskilly] Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Stepney, London, England Civil Parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Crispin County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Belt Maker
Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 376 Folio: 127 Page Number: 58 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Burt 48 - Rope Maker Margaret Burt 48 William Nusstrelley 16
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Catherine
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6 Mar 2014 18:17 |
Marriage states father is Thomas:-
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Burt Roskilly Name: William Burt Roskilly Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Age: 22 Spouse Name: Catherine Jane Masters Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 25 Dec 1897 Parish: Bermondsey St Anne Borough: Southwark Father Name: Thomas Roskilly Occupation:- Tailor Register Type: Parish Register
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6 Mar 2014 18:17 |
1911 for info:-
1911 England Census about William Burt Roskilly Name: William Burt Roskilly Age in 1911: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Mile End, London, England Civil Parish: Chertsey County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: 19 Chantry Road, Chertsey Marital Status: Married Occupation: Patent Leather Dresser Registration district: Chertsey Registration District Number: 32 Sub-registration district: Chertsey ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 144 Piece: 2998 Household Members: Name Age William Burt Roskilly 36 Catherine Roskilly 34 William Roskilly 12 Thomas Roskilly 11 Catherine Roskilly 6 Lily Roskilly 2 Nelly Roskilly 1
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Catherine
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6 Mar 2014 18:16 |
If you buy the marriage certificate it should tell you who his father was and also his occupation which may help find him in census records, or confirm any info found.
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