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mgnv - cheers! Useful website to have as well.....

Jude

Using http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/ confirms a couple of hypothesized marrs.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1879
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CORDING William WILLIAMS Elizabeth Wednesbury, St Bartholomew Sandwell Register Office 32/6/38

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1864
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CORDING William HOWELL Mary Wednesbury, St John Sandwell Register Office 34/2/57

1861 (reference)
CORDEN, Ruth Head F 46 1815 Laundress
Bilston, Staffordshire
CORDEN, Robert Son To Head Unmarried M 15 1846 Stone Miner
Gospel Oak, Staffordshire
CORDEN, Thomas Son Unmarried M 12 1849 Coal Miner
Bilston, Staffordshire
CORDEN, Joseph Son M 10 1851 Coal Engine Driver
Bilston, Staffordshire
CORDEN, Jonathan Son M 8 1853 Scholar
Bilston, Staffordshire
Piece: 2005
Folio: 132
Page: 17
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Civil Parish: Bilston
Municipal Borough:
Address: 18, Pipes Meadow, Bilston
County: Staffordshire

Baptism
Place Bilston
Church St Leonard
RegisterNumber 3452
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 25 Oct 1846
Forename Robert
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Catherine
FatherSurname CORDEN
MotherSurname
Abode Gospel Oak Tipton
FatherOccupation Miner

(would say very likely!)


Not seeing others though, or Brother Samuel, and still Death for Mother...

Chris :)

Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
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CORDING Isaiah Pontefract 9c 155
CORDING Mary Ann Pontefract 9c 155
PIPER Caroline Pontefract 9c 155
PIPER Thomas Pontefract 9c 155

(above for others)

edits (saw below, Bilston)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/parishes/sts/b.shtml#1


Publication:Leeds Times
Publication date:Saturday 24 May 1890

At the Pontefract Police Court, on Saturday, William Cording and George Smith, miners, Featherstone, were ordered to pay £2 each damages and costs for absenting themselves from their employment at Featherstone Main Colliery at various dates.

(Son of Robert above!)

Chris

Possible death for Mary?

Deaths Mar 1872 (>99%)
CORDENS Mary 39 Walsall 6b 443

I think this is probably her...

Name: Mary Ann Cording
Birth Year: abt 1860
Age: 21
Marriage or Bann Date: 25 Dec 1881
Parish: Featherstone, All Saints
Father's Name: William Cording
Spouse's Name: Thomas Piper
Spouse's Father's Name: John Piper

And as you point out with the bmd Thomas was the brother of Caroline who married Isaiah.

I have trawled 1861 census until my eyes hurt :-0

Can anyone find a death for mother Catherine? In 1861 I believe she is with Robert who is listed separately on the page after her and Thomas, Jonathan and Joseph who are separate again. She is listed as Ruth but everything else fits too well. So either Catherine died and William married Ruth before he died in 1854 or Ruth is Catherine.

But I haven't found her in 1871 nor have I found a death for her.

Off to work now - crossing off events slowly but surely!

Jude

Births Dec 1858 (>99%)
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Cording Elizabeth Walsall 6b 459

Burial
County Staffordshire
Place Darlaston
Church St. George
RegisterNumber 440
BurialDate 08 Mar 1860
Forename Elizabeth
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname CORDING
Age 15m
Abode New St

(could have been another)


Burial (Father?)
County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church Swan Bank Wesleyan Chapel
RegisterNumber 28324
BurialDate 22 May 1854
Forename William
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname CORDING
Age 39
Abode Bilston
Notes Recorded by Henry SMALLWOOD

Chris :)

http://genealogy.heydon.org/streets?p=Darlaston

New Street 2009 119 8 Darlaston Darlaston Darlaston
New Street 2009 144 12 Darlaston Darlaston Darlaston

(Piece/Folio/Page ref. above, if any good!)

Chris :)

1861 (seems to start with below)
SUTTON, Charles Head Married M 35 1826 Cordwainer
Bilston, Staffordshire
SUTTON, Phoebe Wife Married F 24 1837
Darlaston, Staffordshire
SUTTON, William Son M 0 (11M) 1861
Darlaston, Staffordshire
Piece: 2009
Folio: 119
Page: 8
Registration District: Walsall
Civil Parish: Darlaston
Municipal Borough:
Address: New Street, Darlaston
County: Staffordshire

Thanks all....again!

Yes William (senior) and Catherine had five children that I know of - William Samuel, Robert, Thomas and Caroline!

But where were William, Sarah and Isaiah in 1861? Never mind plenty to be going on with :-)

Jude

Thanks Chris,
the baptism for Samuel does seem to confirm that the two were brothers, so all fitting together very nicely.

EDIT:- Just reread post and they are both together on the 1841 census already posted at the beginning. :-S


For ref. birth and death for poor William (jnr.)

Births Mar 1861 (>99%)
CORDING William Walsall 6b 522
Deaths Mar 1861 (>99%)
CORDING William Walsall 6b 352

Baptism
County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church St Leonard
RegisterNumber 2925
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 29 Dec 1839
Forename Samuel
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Catherine
FatherSurname CORDEN
MotherSurname
Abode Temple Street
FatherOccupation Miner

County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church Swan Bank Wesleyan Chapel
RegisterNumber 11176
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 05 Jun 1853
Forename Jonathan
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Catherine
FatherSurname CORDING
MotherSurname
Abode Bilston
FatherOccupation
Notes Born 17 May; Recorded by John KIRK

(could well be!)

Chris :)

edits (Brother/Sister)

Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
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CORDING Isaiah Pontefract 9c 155
CORDING Mary Ann Pontefract 9c 155
PIPER Caroline Pontefract 9c 155
PIPER Thomas Pontefract 9c 155

With ref. baptism for Mary Ann Corden:-
If William had a brother Samuel then this could be Mary Ann in 1871 (maybe sent to live with family after the death of Sarah?

1871 England Census about Mary Ann Cordon
Name: Mary Ann Cordon
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Bilston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Bilston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Bilston
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 2951
Folio: 61
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Cordon 31
Sarah Cordon 27
Jonathan Cordon 17
Mary Ann Cordon 10

I had 1863 from somewhere.....................but I cannot find them :-(

Nice one Chris.
So if there was a child born in 1861 Darlaston, then they should be there in 1861 census and if Sarah didn't die untill 1863, then she should be with them.

Thanks everybody! I had been wavering on Walsall being a possibility...will digest this tomorrrow

Possible death for Mary?

Deaths Mar 1872 (>99%)
CORDENS Mary 39 Walsall 6b 443

Burial
County Staffordshire
Place Darlaston
Church James Bridge Cemetery
RegisterNumber 33
BurialDate 27 Jan 1861
Forename William
Relationship son of
Rel1MaleForename William
Rel1FemaleForename Sarah
Rel1Surname CORDING
Surname CORDING
Age 1m
Abode New St. Darlaston

Burial
County Staffordshire
Place Darlaston
Church James Bridge Cemetery
RegisterNumber 557
BurialDate 12 Nov 1863
Forename Sarah Ann
Relationship wife of
Rel1MaleForename William
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname CORDING
Surname CORDING
Age 24
Abode New St, Darlaston


Baptism
County Staffordshire
Place Darlaston
Church Slater St Primitive Methodist Chapel
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 08 Jan 1862
Forename Mary Ann
Sex F
FatherForename William
MotherForename Sarah Ann
FatherSurname CORDEN
MotherSurname
Abode New St Darlaston
FatherOccupation Miner


(not sure if above relating)

Baptism
County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church St Leonards
RegisterNumber 70684
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Jan 1837
Forename William
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Catherine
FatherSurname CORDEN
MotherSurname
Abode Bilston
FatherOccupation Miner
Notes Recorded by J B OWEN

County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church St Matthew
RegisterNumber 10454
MarriageDate 16 Mar 1857
GroomForename William
GroomSurname CORDEN
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Miner
GroomAbode Moore Street
BrideForename Sarah Kinsey
BrideSurname BLAKEMORE
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Moore Street
GroomFatherForename William
GroomFatherSurname CORDEN
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename William
BrideFatherSurname BLAKEMORE
BrideFatherOccupation Miner
WitnessOneForename Solomon
WitnessOneSurname BEVAN
WitnessTwoForename Sarah
WitnessTwoSurname PALMER
Notes Banns; Grooms age is full; Grooms father deceased; Brides age is minimum; Recorded by Benjamin WRIGHT

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Possible marriage to Mary??

Name: William Cording
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1864
Registration District: West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Event Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
Volume: 6B
Page: 1052
Line Number: 7
William Cording probably married one of the following people
Name: William Bailey
Name: Phoebe Guest
xxxx Name: Mary Howell xxxx

Yeah Roy that was the tentative marriage for William and Elizabeth....that I referred to in OP

Marriages Mar 1879
CORDING William W. Bromwich 6b 739

Others on the page include Elizabeth Williams

Roy

??
Deaths Dec 1863
Cordin Sarah Ann Walsall 6b 323

Roy

Thanks Thelma - had only - as I was typing - thought of this and it looks good!

Jude