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Valeire
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17 Feb 2014 13:22 |
I have been looking for the place of birth of my grandfather for six years date of birth 1877-1878 William henry Hill I have his marriage 26th December 1911 Plymouth Devon age 34 a bachelor he is a fisherman he is not on the 1911 census married Mary Ann Hannaford (second marriage) nee Williams she is on the 1911 census with her three children moon st Plymouth I have bought many birth certificates only to have the wrong father who's name is also William henry I have looked on most sites. I am at at a lost what to do! any help would be gratefully received
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ErikaH
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17 Feb 2014 13:25 |
Address on marriage cert?
Father's occupation?
Witnesses?
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Maddie
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17 Feb 2014 13:31 |
is this him in 1901 ????????? BUNT, Richard Head Married M 48 1853 Refreshment House Keeper Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW BUNT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 50 1851 Refreshment House Keeper London VIEW BUNT, John W H Son Single M 22 1879 Fisherman Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW BUNT, Edith E Daughter Single F 19 1882 Milliner Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW BUNT, Florence Daughter Single F 17 1884 Helping In Shop Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW HATHERLEIGH, Lily Maud Servant Single F 18 1883 Domestic General Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW RONE, Louisa Servant Single F 15 1886 Domestic General Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW HILL, John Samuel Boarder Single M 25 1876 Fisherman Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW HILL, William H Boarder Single M 23 1878 Fisherman Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW BUNT, Frederick Nephew Married M 34 1867 Coal Porter Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW CHOWEN, Robert Boarder Single M 22 1879 Fisherman Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW ROBERTSON, James Boarder Single M 18 1883 Fisherman London VIEW MILLS, William Boarder Married M 36 1865 Fish Curer Mevagissey, Cornwall VIEW
Piece: 2101
Folio: 72
Page: 32
Registration District: Plymouth
Civil Parish: Plymouth
Municipal Borough:
Address: 12, The Barbican, Plymouth
County: Devonshire refine search back to 1901 census search resu
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ErikaH
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17 Feb 2014 13:31 |
As he is reputed to have had the same names as his father - perhaps he is on the census as Henry.............to differentiate between the two?
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17 Feb 2014 13:36 |
Based on census posted by Maddie
Births Mar 1875 (>99%) Hill John Samuel Plymouth 5b 231
Births Dec 1878 (>99%) HILL William Henry Plymouth 5b 289
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17 Feb 2014 13:38 |
It is not unknown for the father's name on a marriage cert to be inaccurate..................
1881 census
Person: HILL, William Address: 12 &13, Higher St, Plymouth Charles Cost
HILL, John S Head Married M 32 1849 Fisherman Plymouth, Devon VIEW HILL, Sarah Wife Married F 30 1851 Shopkeeper Plymouth, Devon VIEW NORMAN, John Boarder Lodger Widower M 62 1819 No Occupation Yarmouth, Hampshire VIEW HILL, Malinda Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar Plymouth, Devon VIEW HILL, John Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Plymouth, Devon VIEW HILL, Florence Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar Plymouth, Devon VIEW HILL, William Son Single M 3 1878 Scholar Plymouth, Devon VIEW SMITH, Sarah Wife Married F 28 1853 Wife Bigbury, Devon VIEW SMITH, Susanha Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar Bigbury, Devon VIEW
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Maddie
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17 Feb 2014 13:52 |
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Forename(s):William Henry
Surname:Hill
Year:1878
Month:Apr
Day:10
Father's Forename:John Samuel
Mother's Forename:Sarah
Mother's Surname:
Birth Day:13
Birth Month:Mar
Birth Year:1878
Dedication:Charles
Place:Plymouth
County:Devon
Page:320
Archive Ref:167/16
Notes:
Record source:Baptism Register - Transcripts
Data provider:Plymouth & West Devon Record Offi
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Maddie
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17 Feb 2014 13:55 |
just in case the above is incorrect
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Forename(s):William Henry
Surname:Hill
Year:1879
Month:Jan
Day:9
Father's Forename:William James
Mother's Forename:Emily Jane
Mother's Surname:
Birth Day:29
Birth Month:Oct
Birth Year:1878
Dedication:Plymouth, St Peter
Place:Plymouth
County:Devon
Page:14
Archive Ref:597/3/a
Notes:
Record source:Baptism Register - Transcripts
Data provider:Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd
father was a cook
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17 Feb 2014 13:58 |
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Forename(s):John Samuel
Surname:Hill
Year:1875
Month:Jan
Day:27
Father's Forename:John Samuel
Mother's Forename:Sarah
Mother's Surname:
Birth Day:22
Birth Month:Dec
Birth Year:1874
Dedication:Charles
Place:Plymouth
County:Devon
Page:183
Archive Ref:167/16
Notes:
Record source:Baptism Register - Transcripts
Data provider:Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd
father was a yachtsman
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Mary
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17 Feb 2014 16:10 |
Was his dad alive when William jnr married in 1911?
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Mike *
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17 Feb 2014 16:49 |
According to trees on Ancestry this is his parents marriage
Name: William Henry Hill spouse \; Mary Ellen Cole Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1871 Registration district:Plymouth Inferred County:Devon
Volume Number:5b Page Number:372
Witnesses, Edwin Cole and Jane Ridge
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17 Feb 2014 16:56 |
Again, this is cited as being William's father in 1851 .. obviously needs checking but posted here as a lead to follow up.
1851 Garrison of Hull Stationed in the Citadel
Matthew Hill 41 --Falmouth, Cornwall - Cumonser Serjeant Sarah Hill 41 - Southhampton, Hampshire Emma Hill 11 - Gibraltar ** William H Hill 5 - NS, Halifax Mathew Hill 4 - East Lapraine, Canada John Hill 1 - Liverpool, Lancashire
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17 Feb 2014 17:04 |
Name
Age 1871 John Cole 56 Susan Cole 50 Charles Cole 28 Alfred Cole 13 Mary Ellen Hill 22 - married daughter Edwin Cole 19 William Cole 16 Albert Cole 13
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17 Feb 2014 17:34 |
Father ?
1911
William Henry Hill
Age in 1911:65 Estimated birth year:abt 1846
Birth Place:Halifax N J
Civil Parish:Portsmouth County/Island:Hampshire Street address:6 Byron Road, Buckland, Portsmouth Marital Status:Married Occupation:Navy Pensioner
William Henry Hill 65 Mary Ellen Hill 62 - Plymouth, Devon Susan Ann Hill 21 -Portsmouth, Hampshire
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17 Feb 2014 18:54 |
On one of the trees which has William henry son of William Henry and Mary Ellen nee Cole it states William's dad was deceased at time of his marriage.
1881 census Mary Ellen Hile (Hill) with mum Susan. Son Chas Wm age 3 Plymouth Devon Emily born Hull age 5 Mary E 1 Devon
No William Henry Hill.
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Valeire
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18 Feb 2014 11:08 |
I have researched the Hill -Cole family The son is down as Chas will also William henry the father was still alive in 1911 according to my grand fathers marriage certificate in dec 1911 his father was deceased thank you for all the replies val
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