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Valeire

Valeire Report 18 Feb 2014 11:08

I have researched the Hill -Cole family
The son is down as Chas will also William henry the father was still alive in 1911
according to my grand fathers marriage certificate in dec 1911
his father was deceased
thank you for all the replies val

Mary

Mary Report 17 Feb 2014 18:54

On one of the trees which has William henry son of William Henry and Mary Ellen nee Cole it states William's dad was deceased at time of his marriage.

1881 census Mary Ellen Hile (Hill) with mum Susan.
Son Chas Wm age 3 Plymouth Devon
Emily born Hull age 5
Mary E 1 Devon

No William Henry Hill.

Maryb.

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Feb 2014 17:34

Father ?

1911

William Henry Hill

Age in 1911:65
Estimated birth year:abt 1846

Birth Place:Halifax N J

Civil Parish:Portsmouth
County/Island:Hampshire
Street address:6 Byron Road, Buckland, Portsmouth
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Navy Pensioner


William Henry Hill 65
Mary Ellen Hill 62 - Plymouth, Devon
Susan Ann Hill 21 -Portsmouth, Hampshire

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Feb 2014 17:04


Name

Age
1871
John Cole 56
Susan Cole 50
Charles Cole 28
Alfred Cole 13
Mary Ellen Hill 22 - married daughter
Edwin Cole 19
William Cole 16
Albert Cole 13

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Feb 2014 16:56

Again, this is cited as being William's father in 1851 .. obviously needs checking but posted here as a lead to follow up.


1851
Garrison of Hull Stationed in the Citadel


Matthew Hill 41 --Falmouth, Cornwall - Cumonser Serjeant
Sarah Hill 41 - Southhampton, Hampshire
Emma Hill 11 - Gibraltar
** William H Hill 5 - NS, Halifax
Mathew Hill 4 - East Lapraine, Canada
John Hill 1 - Liverpool, Lancashire

Mike *

Mike * Report 17 Feb 2014 16:49

According to trees on Ancestry this is his parents marriage



Name:
William Henry Hill
spouse \; Mary Ellen Cole
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1871
Registration district:Plymouth
Inferred County:Devon

Volume Number:5b
Page Number:372

Witnesses, Edwin Cole and Jane Ridge


Mary

Mary Report 17 Feb 2014 16:10

Was his dad alive when William jnr married in 1911?

Maryb

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Feb 2014 13:58


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Forename(s):John Samuel

Surname:Hill

Year:1875

Month:Jan

Day:27

Father's Forename:John Samuel

Mother's Forename:Sarah

Mother's Surname:

Birth Day:22

Birth Month:Dec

Birth Year:1874

Dedication:Charles

Place:Plymouth

County:Devon

Page:183

Archive Ref:167/16

Notes:

Record source:Baptism Register - Transcripts

Data provider:Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection

Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd


father was a yachtsman

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Feb 2014 13:55

just in case the above is incorrect


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Forename(s):William Henry

Surname:Hill

Year:1879

Month:Jan

Day:9

Father's Forename:William James

Mother's Forename:Emily Jane

Mother's Surname:

Birth Day:29

Birth Month:Oct

Birth Year:1878

Dedication:Plymouth, St Peter

Place:Plymouth

County:Devon

Page:14

Archive Ref:597/3/a

Notes:

Record source:Baptism Register - Transcripts

Data provider:Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection

Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

father was a cook

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Feb 2014 13:52


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Forename(s):William Henry

Surname:Hill

Year:1878

Month:Apr

Day:10

Father's Forename:John Samuel

Mother's Forename:Sarah

Mother's Surname:

Birth Day:13

Birth Month:Mar

Birth Year:1878

Dedication:Charles

Place:Plymouth

County:Devon

Page:320

Archive Ref:167/16

Notes:

Record source:Baptism Register - Transcripts

Data provider:Plymouth & West Devon Record Offi

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Feb 2014 13:38

It is not unknown for the father's name on a marriage cert to be inaccurate..................

1881 census

Person: HILL, William Address: 12 &13, Higher St, Plymouth Charles
Cost


HILL, John S Head Married M 32 1849 Fisherman
Plymouth, Devon VIEW
HILL, Sarah Wife Married F 30 1851 Shopkeeper
Plymouth, Devon VIEW
NORMAN, John Boarder Lodger Widower M 62 1819 No Occupation
Yarmouth, Hampshire VIEW
HILL, Malinda Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Plymouth, Devon VIEW
HILL, John Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Plymouth, Devon VIEW
HILL, Florence Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Plymouth, Devon VIEW
HILL, William Son Single M 3 1878 Scholar
Plymouth, Devon VIEW
SMITH, Sarah Wife Married F 28 1853 Wife
Bigbury, Devon VIEW
SMITH, Susanha Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Bigbury, Devon VIEW

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Feb 2014 13:36

Based on census posted by Maddie

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
Hill John Samuel Plymouth 5b 231

Births Dec 1878 (>99%)
HILL William Henry Plymouth 5b 289

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Feb 2014 13:31

As he is reputed to have had the same names as his father - perhaps he is on the census as Henry.............to differentiate between the two?

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Feb 2014 13:31

is this him in 1901 ?????????
BUNT, Richard Head Married M 48 1853 Refreshment House Keeper
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
BUNT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 50 1851 Refreshment House Keeper
London VIEW
BUNT, John W H Son Single M 22 1879 Fisherman
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
BUNT, Edith E Daughter Single F 19 1882 Milliner
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
BUNT, Florence Daughter Single F 17 1884 Helping In Shop
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
HATHERLEIGH, Lily Maud Servant Single F 18 1883 Domestic General
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
RONE, Louisa Servant Single F 15 1886 Domestic General
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
HILL, John Samuel Boarder Single M 25 1876 Fisherman
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
HILL, William H Boarder Single M 23 1878 Fisherman
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
BUNT, Frederick Nephew Married M 34 1867 Coal Porter
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
CHOWEN, Robert Boarder Single M 22 1879 Fisherman
Plymouth, Devonshire VIEW
ROBERTSON, James Boarder Single M 18 1883 Fisherman
London VIEW
MILLS, William Boarder Married M 36 1865 Fish Curer
Mevagissey, Cornwall VIEW

Piece: 2101

Folio: 72

Page: 32

Registration District: Plymouth

Civil Parish: Plymouth

Municipal Borough:

Address: 12, The Barbican, Plymouth

County: Devonshire
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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Feb 2014 13:25

Address on marriage cert?

Father's occupation?

Witnesses?

Valeire

Valeire Report 17 Feb 2014 13:22

I have been looking for the place of birth of my grandfather for six years
date of birth 1877-1878 William henry Hill
I have his marriage 26th December 1911 Plymouth Devon age 34 a bachelor he is a fisherman he is not on the 1911 census
married Mary Ann Hannaford (second marriage) nee Williams
she is on the 1911 census with her three children moon st Plymouth
I have bought many birth certificates only to have the wrong father
who's name is also William henry I have looked on most sites.
I am at at a lost what to do! any help would be gratefully received