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13 Feb 2014 18:29 |
I am helping a friend )Steve Ober, find his relatives in England. We have it to George Ober c. 1559 in Abbotsbury, Dorset. We also have that George's sons, and grandchildren also born in Abbotsbury. In the Ancient Maps of Hampshire, they show an OBER House, just west of Brockenhurst Center. That would be at least in the 1800s. Also in the right-up for Rhinefield Lodge, Rhinefield Road, Brockenhurst it relates that the Mansion (which is now the Lodge Hotel), was built by Edward Lionel Munro and his wife Zoe Walker and called the Walker-Munro house. When Edward died, she had him buried at the Ober Farm, that was 1920, and later when she died (1934) she was buried with him. I am trying to find out the names of the OBER family whom the Farm was named after. Also in Brockenhurst, there is the Ober Corners; Ober Waters; Ober House and Ober Moor/Heath. Any help one can give me would be appreciated, or the Hampshire Historian who can give answers. I am, of course, hopeing to link that Ober family with George Ober of Abbotsbury. The name may have been modified since the 1800s to OVER. Thanks, Peter in USA
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Gee
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13 Feb 2014 18:36 |
Hi Peter
The dates of your post about this family start in the 1500s and then to the 1900s
Is there something that you can give us in between please
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Gee
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13 Feb 2014 18:39 |
I guess this is related
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name:Edward Lionel Walker Munro Of: Rhinefield
Probate Date:10 Dec 1920
Death Date:2 Jul 1920
Death Place:Hampshire, England
Registry:London, England
Probate to: Mabel Zoe Walker Munro (widow) £26296 13s 10d
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Gee
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13 Feb 2014 18:49 |
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name:Mabel Zoe Walker Munro
Probate Date:15 Oct 1934
Death Date:7 Sep 1934
Death Place:Hampshire, England
Registry:London, England
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AnnCardiff
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13 Feb 2014 21:02 |
looking at the census for Dorset, there are no Ober's to be seen, there are however variants of the name, i,.e. Obera, Obder, Obre, Ohbern
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AnnCardiff
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13 Feb 2014 21:20 |
forgot to say "Welcome to the boards Peter" :-D
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Porkie_Pie
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13 Feb 2014 21:27 |
What makes you think the name Ober is the family the farm was named after?
The surname Orber is very rare in England and doesn't even appear on the GRO BMD's index untill the 1850's and then not in the Hampshire Area appart from 1 entry for a marriage and on close inspection that is a mistranscription of the name "Over"
Most Ober names appear in the Kent and london area
search using http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
A search from the start of civil registration in sep quarter 1837 up until 1960 only returned 11 people born to that surname
Roy
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AnnCardiff
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13 Feb 2014 21:30 |
found one in Devon, and as Roy says, there are lots in Hampshire
Name: Abraham Ober Gender: Male Christening Date: 23 Sep 1638 Christening Place: TOPSHAM,DEVON,ENGLAND Father's Name: Nicholas Ober Mother's Name: Margaret Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00184-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 962976
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AnnCardiff
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13 Feb 2014 21:32 |
Ancestors of Richard Ober Dotts
Generation No. 13
6144. George (Auber) Ober, born 1555 in Abbotsbury, Dorset, England. Children of George (Auber) Ober are:
3072 i. William Ober, born 1587 in Abbotsbury, Dorset, England; married Edith Mollett.
ii. Nicholas Ober, born 21 May 1579.
iii. Augustus Ober, born May 1585.
Ancestors of Richard Ober Dotts - Family Tree Maker's ... familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/h/r/Debra-A... Cached Ancestors of Richard Ober Dotts Generation No. 13 6144. George (Auber) Ober, born 1555 in Abbotsbury, Dorset, England. Children of George (Auber) Ober ...
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AnnCardiff
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13 Feb 2014 21:34 |
Forestry Commission www.forestry.gov.uk/website/forestry.nsf/AllResponses?... Cached Wondering whom the Ober Walk was named after as we live in the States and our friend is a Steve Ober whose ancestors were from Abbotsbury, Dorset in the 1500s.
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Porkie_Pie
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13 Feb 2014 21:35 |
If you look at the farm on google street view It doesn't appear to be that old, Possibly built in the early to mid 1800s.
Roy
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AnnCardiff
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13 Feb 2014 21:38 |
John OBER [32821] 19 FEB 1613 - ____ BIRTH: 19 FEB 1613, Abbotsbury, Co. Dorset, England DEATH: Abbotsbury, Co. Dorset, England Father: William OBER Mother: Edith MOLLETT
Family 1 : Elizabeth BUTCHER MARRIAGE: 12 NOV 1640, Abbotsbury, Co. Dorset, England +Richard (Sr) OBER
I1453: John DE NORTON (____ - ____) www.aemyers.net/genealogy/d0003/g0000047.html Cached John OBER 19 FEB 1613 - ____ ... 19 FEB 1613 - ____ BIRTH: 19 FEB 1613, Abbotsbury, Co. Dorset, England DEATH: Abbotsbury, Co. Dorset ... Family 1: Luise Reuss of ...
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Porkie_Pie
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13 Feb 2014 21:41 |
Just noted you say the name Ober may have been modified since the 1800s to OVER
This marriage entry is the one i refered to in my post 13 Feb 2014 21:27 The actual image states the surname Over
Marriages Jun 1895 Ober Sarah Jane P Portsea 2b 876
Plenty of surname "Over" in the Hampshire area, Use freebmd site, link posted in my other post
Roy
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AnnCardiff
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13 Feb 2014 21:43 |
Augustus OBER
Father: George AUBER Birth: MAY 1585, Abbotsbury, Dorset, England Death: (Date and Place unknown)
Ancestors of Augustus OBER /-George AUBER Augustus OBER
Benjamin OBER
Father: Richard OBER Mother: Abigail WOODBURY Birth: 14 APR 1689 Death: (Date and Place unknown)
Ancestors of Benjamin OBER /-William OBER /-John OBER | \-Edith MOLLETT /-Richard OBER | | /-John BUTCHER | \-Elizabeth BUTCHER Benjamin OBER | /-William WOODBURY , Sir | /-Nicholas WOODBURY | | \-Elizabeth PATCH \-Abigail WOODBURY | /-Richard PALGRAVE \-Anna (Palgrave) PAULGRAVE \-Anna HARRIS
Art Uallach macAeda O'ROURK , King of Connacht - Nicholas OBER freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dphaner/HTML... Cached 1 Benjamin OBER =Mary FOSTER 2 Mary OBER =David STANDLEY , ... Abbotsbury, Dorset., England; Child: Elizabeth OBER Birth: 24 AUG 1643 ... Family Trees ...
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AnnCardiff
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13 Feb 2014 21:44 |
Ober, Name Meaning, Origin, Detailed Name Information ... genealogy.familyeducation.com/surname-origin/ober Cached ... from Middle High German ober, ... emigrated from Abbotsbury, Dorset, England, to the Salem colony and ... Check out these family-friendly hot spots that won ...
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AnnCardiff
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13 Feb 2014 21:46 |
thePeerage.com - Master Place Index thepeerage.com/place_index_O.htm Cached A genealogical survey of the peerage of Britain as well as the royal families of Europe ... Ober-Altwaltersdorf. ... Dorset, England. Over Norton. Over Norton, ...
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Peter
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13 Feb 2014 22:50 |
Many thanks to all of you who provided great information for me to follow up on. It will take me a while to do so, so I appreciate the massive response which has given me good options.
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Gee
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14 Feb 2014 07:23 |
This is Edward Lional' fathers baptism
India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
Name:Campbell Munro
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:25 Dec 1823
Baptism Place:Madras, Madras, India
Father:Thomas Munro
Mother:Jane
Reference ID:v 9 p 55
FHL Film Number:521838 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And his probate record
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Sir Campbell Munro of: Lindertis House, Kirriemuir - baronet
Probate Date:23 Jul 1913
Death Date:13 Jun 1913
Death Place:Kirriemuir, Angus, Scotland
Registry:London, England Confirmation of Sir Hugh Thomas Monro - baronet (looks like his son from census info) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Campbells' parents marriage
Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Name:Thomas Munro
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:27 Mar 1814
Marriage Place: St. Quivox and Newton, Ayr, Scotland
Spouse:Jane Campbell
FHL Film Number:1041404
Reference ID:2:G3ZK8D -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And his death
India, Select Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948
Name:Sir Thomas Munro
Gender:Male
Burial Date:7 Jul 1827
Burial Place:Gooty, Madras, India
FHL Film Number:521839 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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