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OBER House/Farm-Brockenhurst, Hampshire, UK

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Gee

Gee Report 14 Feb 2014 07:23

This is Edward Lional' fathers baptism



India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

Name:Campbell Munro

Gender:Male

Baptism Date:25 Dec 1823

Baptism Place:Madras, Madras, India

Father:Thomas Munro

Mother:Jane

Reference ID:v 9 p 55

FHL Film Number:521838

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And his probate record



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Sir Campbell Munro of: Lindertis House, Kirriemuir - baronet

Probate Date:23 Jul 1913

Death Date:13 Jun 1913

Death Place:Kirriemuir, Angus, Scotland

Registry:London, England

Confirmation of Sir Hugh Thomas Monro - baronet (looks like his son from census info)
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Campbells' parents marriage


Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910

Name:Thomas Munro

Gender:Male

Marriage Date:27 Mar 1814

Marriage Place:
St. Quivox and Newton, Ayr, Scotland

Spouse:Jane Campbell

FHL Film Number:1041404

Reference ID:2:G3ZK8D

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And his death



India, Select Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948

Name:Sir Thomas Munro

Gender:Male

Burial Date:7 Jul 1827

Burial Place:Gooty, Madras, India

FHL Film Number:521839

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Peter

Peter Report 13 Feb 2014 22:50

Many thanks to all of you who provided great information for me to follow up on. It will take me a while to do so, so I appreciate the massive response which has given me good options.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Feb 2014 21:46

thePeerage.com - Master Place Index
thepeerage.com/place_index_O.htm Cached
A genealogical survey of the peerage of Britain as well as the royal families of Europe ... Ober-Altwaltersdorf. ... Dorset, England. Over Norton. Over Norton, ...

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Feb 2014 21:44

Ober, Name Meaning, Origin, Detailed Name Information ...
genealogy.familyeducation.com/surname-origin/ober Cached
... from Middle High German ober, ... emigrated from Abbotsbury, Dorset, England, to the Salem colony and ... Check out these family-friendly hot spots that won ...

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Feb 2014 21:43

Augustus OBER

Father: George AUBER
Birth: MAY 1585, Abbotsbury, Dorset, England
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of Augustus OBER
/-George AUBER
Augustus OBER


Benjamin OBER

Father: Richard OBER
Mother: Abigail WOODBURY
Birth: 14 APR 1689
Death: (Date and Place unknown)

Ancestors of Benjamin OBER
/-William OBER
/-John OBER
| \-Edith MOLLETT
/-Richard OBER
| | /-John BUTCHER
| \-Elizabeth BUTCHER
Benjamin OBER
| /-William WOODBURY , Sir
| /-Nicholas WOODBURY
| | \-Elizabeth PATCH
\-Abigail WOODBURY
| /-Richard PALGRAVE
\-Anna (Palgrave) PAULGRAVE
\-Anna HARRIS


Art Uallach macAeda O'ROURK , King of Connacht - Nicholas OBER
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dphaner/HTML... Cached
1 Benjamin OBER =Mary FOSTER 2 Mary OBER =David STANDLEY , ... Abbotsbury, Dorset., England; Child: Elizabeth OBER Birth: 24 AUG 1643 ... Family Trees ...

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 13 Feb 2014 21:41

Just noted you say the name Ober may have been modified since the 1800s to OVER

This marriage entry is the one i refered to in my post 13 Feb 2014 21:27 The actual image states the surname Over

Marriages Jun 1895
Ober Sarah Jane P Portsea 2b 876

Plenty of surname "Over" in the Hampshire area, Use freebmd site, link posted in my other post

Roy

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Feb 2014 21:38

John OBER
[32821]
19 FEB 1613 - ____
BIRTH: 19 FEB 1613, Abbotsbury, Co. Dorset, England
DEATH: Abbotsbury, Co. Dorset, England
Father: William OBER
Mother: Edith MOLLETT

Family 1 : Elizabeth BUTCHER
MARRIAGE: 12 NOV 1640, Abbotsbury, Co. Dorset, England
+Richard (Sr) OBER


I1453: John DE NORTON (____ - ____)
www.aemyers.net/genealogy/d0003/g0000047.html Cached
John OBER 19 FEB 1613 - ____ ... 19 FEB 1613 - ____ BIRTH: 19 FEB 1613, Abbotsbury, Co. Dorset, England DEATH: Abbotsbury, Co. Dorset ... Family 1: Luise Reuss of ...

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 13 Feb 2014 21:35

If you look at the farm on google street view It doesn't appear to be that old, Possibly built in the early to mid 1800s.

Roy

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Feb 2014 21:34

Forestry Commission
www.forestry.gov.uk/website/forestry.nsf/AllResponses?... Cached
Wondering whom the Ober Walk was named after as we live in the States and our friend is a Steve Ober whose ancestors were from Abbotsbury, Dorset in the 1500s.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Feb 2014 21:32

Ancestors of Richard Ober Dotts


Generation No. 13


6144. George (Auber) Ober, born 1555 in Abbotsbury, Dorset, England.

Children of George (Auber) Ober are:

3072 i. William Ober, born 1587 in Abbotsbury, Dorset, England; married Edith Mollett.

ii. Nicholas Ober, born 21 May 1579.

iii. Augustus Ober, born May 1585.


Ancestors of Richard Ober Dotts - Family Tree Maker's ...
familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/h/r/Debra-A... Cached
Ancestors of Richard Ober Dotts Generation No. 13 6144. George (Auber) Ober, born 1555 in Abbotsbury, Dorset, England. Children of George (Auber) Ober ...

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Feb 2014 21:30

found one in Devon, and as Roy says, there are lots in Hampshire

Name: Abraham Ober
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 23 Sep 1638
Christening Place: TOPSHAM,DEVON,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Nicholas Ober
Mother's Name: Margaret
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00184-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 962976

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 13 Feb 2014 21:27

What makes you think the name Ober is the family the farm was named after?

The surname Orber is very rare in England and doesn't even appear on the GRO BMD's index untill the 1850's and then not in the Hampshire Area appart from 1 entry for a marriage and on close inspection that is a mistranscription of the name "Over"

Most Ober names appear in the Kent and london area

search using http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

A search from the start of civil registration in sep quarter 1837 up until 1960 only returned 11 people born to that surname

Roy

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Feb 2014 21:20

forgot to say "Welcome to the boards Peter" :-D

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Feb 2014 21:02

looking at the census for Dorset, there are no Ober's to be seen, there are however variants of the name, i,.e. Obera, Obder, Obre, Ohbern

Gee

Gee Report 13 Feb 2014 18:49


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name:Mabel Zoe Walker Munro

Probate Date:15 Oct 1934

Death Date:7 Sep 1934

Death Place:Hampshire, England

Registry:London, England

Gee

Gee Report 13 Feb 2014 18:39

I guess this is related



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name:Edward Lionel Walker Munro Of: Rhinefield

Probate Date:10 Dec 1920

Death Date:2 Jul 1920

Death Place:Hampshire, England

Registry:London, England


Probate to: Mabel Zoe Walker Munro (widow) £26296 13s 10d

Gee

Gee Report 13 Feb 2014 18:36

Hi Peter

The dates of your post about this family start in the 1500s and then to the 1900s

Is there something that you can give us in between please

Peter

Peter Report 13 Feb 2014 18:29

I am helping a friend )Steve Ober, find his relatives in England. We have it to George Ober c. 1559 in Abbotsbury, Dorset. We also have that George's sons, and grandchildren also born in Abbotsbury.
In the Ancient Maps of Hampshire, they show an OBER House, just west of Brockenhurst Center. That would be at least in the 1800s. Also in the right-up for Rhinefield Lodge, Rhinefield Road, Brockenhurst it relates that the Mansion (which is now the Lodge Hotel), was built by Edward Lionel Munro and his wife Zoe Walker and called the Walker-Munro house. When Edward died, she had him buried at the Ober Farm, that was 1920, and later when she died (1934) she was buried with him.
I am trying to find out the names of the OBER family whom the Farm was named after. Also in Brockenhurst, there is the Ober Corners; Ober Waters; Ober House and Ober Moor/Heath.
Any help one can give me would be appreciated, or the Hampshire Historian who can give answers. I am, of course, hopeing to link that Ober family with George Ober of Abbotsbury. The name may have been modified since the 1800s to OVER.
Thanks, Peter in USA