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5 Feb 2014 14:06 |
??????? Someone on Ancestry has Charles Carder about 1826 with parents Robert and Susan
Charles Carder Simmonds Family Tree Birth: Abt 1826 - Essex, England Marriage: 1 Oct 1851 - Gestingthorpe, Essex, England Death: Oct 1895 - Castle Hedingham, Essex, England Parents: Robert Carder, Susan Spouse: Harriet Finch
Presumably this couple in 1841 but I can?t find any connection to a Charles 1826/1827
CARDER, Robert M 30 1811 Essex VIEW CARDER, Susan F 30 1811 Essex VIEW CARDER, William M 10 1831 Essex VIEW CARDER, John M 60 1781 Essex VIEW Piece: 331 Book/Folio: 16 Page: 2 Registration District: Sudbury Civil Parish: Belchamp Walter Municipal Borough: Address: Puttick End, Belchamp Walter County: Essex
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Cynthia
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5 Feb 2014 12:14 |
Hello Fay and welcome to the Community Boards.
I will let Fay know that she has replies to her query. :-)
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4 Feb 2014 17:11 |
First name(s): Mary Last name: CUTLER Date of burial 2 Oct 1842 Age at death: 36 Calculated year of birth: 1806 Place of burial Belchamp Walter Dedication: St Mary the Virgin County: Essex Notes: Belchamp Walter St Mary the Virgin:
Denomination: Anglican Coverage 1759 - 1879 Number of entries: 1,216 Record source: National Burial Index Data provider: Essex Society for Family History
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4 Feb 2014 17:09 |
Parish Records Collection burial Printer friendly version First name(s): Robert Last name: CUTLER Date of burial 13 Nov 1848 Age at death: 13 Calculated year of birth: 1835 Place of burial Belchamp Walter Dedication: St Mary the Virgin County: Essex Notes: Belchamp Walter St Mary the Virgin:
Denomination: Anglican Coverage 1759 - 1879 Number of entries: 1,216 Record source: National Burial Index Data provider: Essex Society for Family History
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ErikaH
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4 Feb 2014 16:53 |
As no father was named on his marriage cert, you will be able to trace only his mother's line
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4 Feb 2014 15:24 |
Charles and family in 1871
CARDER, Charles Head M 44 1827 Essex VIEW CARDER, Harriett Wife F 41 1830 Essex VIEW CARDER, Sarah Daughter F 18 1853 Essex VIEW CARDER, Henry Son M 16 1855 Essex VIEW CARDER, Lidia Daughter F 11 1860 Essex VIEW CARDER, Lucy Daughter F 9 1862 Essex VIEW CARDER, Emily Daughter F 7 1864 Essex VIEW CARDER, Ellen Daughter F 3 1868 Essex VIEW Piece: 1699 Folio: 65 Page: 4 Registration District: Halstead Civil Parish: Castle Hedingham Municipal Borough: Address: Chapel Street, Castle Hedingham County: Essex refine search back to 1871 census search resultsBack to all search results
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4 Feb 2014 15:17 |
Essex Standard 06/06/1855
Charles Carder alias Cutler, a labourer, from Gestingthorpe was summoned by the Surveyor of Gestingthorpe for releasing a donkey which had been seized for the purpose of impounding when straying on the highway. Fined 26s plus 8s 6d for costs. In default, committed for 6 weeks
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Catherine
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4 Feb 2014 14:06 |
His mother's death?
Deaths Dec 1842 (>99%) Cutler Mary Sudbury 12 287
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1851 England Census about John Cutler Name: John Cutler Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Walter Belchm, Essex, England Civil Parish: Belchamp Walter County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Ag.Labourer Condition as to marriage: Widower Registration District: Sudbury Sub-registration District: Bulmer ED, institution, or vessel: 5 and 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 138 Piece: 1788 Folio: 97 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age John Cutler 51 Henry Cutler 17 Susan Cutler 25
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Deaths Dec 1848 (>99%) Cutler Robert Sudbury 12 306
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Catherine
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4 Feb 2014 13:50 |
1851 England Census about Charles Carder Name: Charles Carder Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Gestingthorpe, Essex, England Civil Parish: Gestingthorpe County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Registration District: Sudbury Sub-registration District: Bulmer ED, institution, or vessel: 8a Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 91 Piece: 1788 Folio: 143 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Charles Carder 23 xxxx Harriett Finch 22 xxxx (see marriage ) Anna Finch 10 Mo
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This family are living next door:-
1851 England Census about William Corder Name: William Corder Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Edith Corder Gender: Male Where born: Gestingthorpe, Essex, England Civil Parish: Gestingthorpe County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Farm Labourer Registration District: Sudbury Sub-registration District: Bulmer ED, institution, or vessel: 8a Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 92 Piece: 1788 Folio: 143 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age William Corder 26 Edith Corder 24 Hannah Corder 4 Benjamin Corder 2 Sarah Smith 71 .............................................
and this family next door to William:-
1851 England Census about Lucy Corder Name: Lucy Corder Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Belchamp Walter, Essex, England Civil Parish: Gestingthorpe County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Registration District: Sudbury Sub-registration District: Bulmer ED, institution, or vessel: 8a Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 93 Piece: 1788 Folio: 143 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Lucy Corder 44 John Corder 67 - father in law Susan Smith 18 - daughter of Lucy Corder
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Catherine
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4 Feb 2014 13:46 |
This 1841 would fit with above marriage for Mary Carder to John Cutler:-
1841 England Census about John Cutler Name: John Cutler Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794 Gender: Male Where born: Essex, England Civil Parish: Walter Belchamp Hundred: Hinckford County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Ag Lab
Registration District: Sudbury Sub-registration District: Bulmer Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 331 Book: 6 Folio: 19 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age John Cutler 47 May Cutler 30 (original could be Mary) James Cutler 20 Henry Cutler 7 Robert Cutler 5 Susanna Cutler 2
This family are grouped together with } The next record after them is this one:-
1841 England Census about Charles Carter Name: Charles Carter Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Gender: Male Where born: Essex, England Civil Parish: Walter Belchamp Hundred: Hinckford County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration District: Sudbury Sub-registration District: Bulmer Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 331 Book: 6 Folio: 19 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Charles Carter 14
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4 Feb 2014 13:12 |
County Essex Place Gestingthorpe Church St Mary the Virgin RegisterNumber 163 MarriageDate 21 Jul 1793 GroomForename William GroomSurname CORDER GroomAge GroomParish GroomCondition Bachelor GroomOccupation GroomAbode BrideForename Elizabeth BrideSurname HARDY BrideAge BrideParish BrideCondition Spinster BrideOccupation BrideAbode GroomFatherForename GroomFatherSurname GroomFatherOccupation BrideFatherForename BrideFatherSurname BrideFatherOccupation WitnessOneForename Michael WitnessOneSurname BUTCHER WitnessTwoForename Ann WitnessTwoSurname BUTCHER Notes Banns. Both used mark. Seax D-P 85-1-3 FileNumber 21872
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Gee
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4 Feb 2014 12:49 |
You should get his marriage cert to check the fathers details
Marriages Dec 1851 (>99%)
CARDER Charles Sudbury 12 907
Finch Harriet Sudbury 12 907
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4 Feb 2014 12:49 |
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County Essex Place Gestingthorpe Church St Mary the Virgin RegisterNumber DateOfBirth 19 Sep 1806 BaptismDate 12 Oct 1806 Forename Mary Sex F FatherForename William MotherForename Elizabeth FatherSurname CORDER MotherSurname Abode FatherOccupation Notes Wife was E.Hardy, spinster. Seax D-P 85-1-2 FileNumber 21870
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4 Feb 2014 12:44 |
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County Essex Place Gestingthorpe Church St Mary the Virgin RegisterNumber 92 MarriageDate 21 Oct 1830 GroomForename John GroomSurname CUTLER GroomAge GroomParish GroomCondition Widower GroomOccupation GroomAbode Walter Belchamp BrideForename Mary BrideSurname CARDER BrideAge BrideParish BrideCondition Spinster BrideOccupation BrideAbode GroomFatherForename GroomFatherSurname GroomFatherOccupation BrideFatherForename BrideFatherSurname BrideFatherOccupation WitnessOneForename Luke WitnessOneSurname MOSS WitnessTwoForename Charlotte WitnessTwoSurname MOSS Notes Banns. Both used mark. [ For Corder / Carter ?]. Seax D-P 85-1-11 FileNumber 21872
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4 Feb 2014 12:34 |
County Essex Place Gestingthorpe Church St Mary the Virgin RegisterNumber 360 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 16 Sep 1827 Forename Charles Sex M FatherForename MotherForename Mary FatherSurname MotherSurname CARDER Abode FatherOccupation Spinster Notes Seax D-P 85-1-10 FileNumber 21870
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GlitterBaby
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4 Feb 2014 12:20 |
Which census have you found him on ?
Witnesses on the marriage cert - any of the same surname ?
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Fay
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4 Feb 2014 12:18 |
on his marriage certificate states father unknown
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Fay
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4 Feb 2014 12:17 |
born 1829 died 1895 cant find parents born in gestingthorpe essex
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