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charles carder

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Fay

Fay Report 4 Feb 2014 12:17

born 1829
died 1895
cant find parents born in gestingthorpe essex

Fay

Fay Report 4 Feb 2014 12:18

on his marriage certificate states father unknown

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 4 Feb 2014 12:20

Which census have you found him on ?

Witnesses on the marriage cert - any of the same surname ?

safc

safc Report 4 Feb 2014 12:34

County Essex
Place Gestingthorpe
Church St Mary the Virgin
RegisterNumber 360
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 16 Sep 1827
Forename Charles
Sex M
FatherForename
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname
MotherSurname CARDER
Abode
FatherOccupation Spinster
Notes Seax D-P 85-1-10
FileNumber 21870


http://www.freereg.org.uk/

safc

safc Report 4 Feb 2014 12:44

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County Essex
Place Gestingthorpe
Church St Mary the Virgin
RegisterNumber 92
MarriageDate 21 Oct 1830
GroomForename John
GroomSurname CUTLER
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Widower
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode Walter Belchamp
BrideForename Mary
BrideSurname CARDER
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Luke
WitnessOneSurname MOSS
WitnessTwoForename Charlotte
WitnessTwoSurname MOSS
Notes Banns. Both used mark. [ For Corder / Carter ?]. Seax D-P 85-1-11
FileNumber 21872

safc

safc Report 4 Feb 2014 12:49

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County Essex
Place Gestingthorpe
Church St Mary the Virgin
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 19 Sep 1806
BaptismDate 12 Oct 1806
Forename Mary
Sex F
FatherForename William
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname CORDER
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes Wife was E.Hardy, spinster. Seax D-P 85-1-2
FileNumber 21870

Gee

Gee Report 4 Feb 2014 12:49

You should get his marriage cert to check the fathers details



Marriages Dec 1851 (>99%)


CARDER Charles Sudbury 12 907

Finch Harriet Sudbury 12 907

safc

safc Report 4 Feb 2014 13:12

County Essex
Place Gestingthorpe
Church St Mary the Virgin
RegisterNumber 163
MarriageDate 21 Jul 1793
GroomForename William
GroomSurname CORDER
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Elizabeth
BrideSurname HARDY
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Michael
WitnessOneSurname BUTCHER
WitnessTwoForename Ann
WitnessTwoSurname BUTCHER
Notes Banns. Both used mark. Seax D-P 85-1-3
FileNumber 21872

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 13:46

This 1841 would fit with above marriage for Mary Carder to John Cutler:-

1841 England Census about John Cutler
Name: John Cutler
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England
Civil Parish: Walter Belchamp
Hundred: Hinckford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-registration District: Bulmer
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 331
Book: 6
Folio: 19
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
John Cutler 47
May Cutler 30 (original could be Mary)
James Cutler 20
Henry Cutler 7
Robert Cutler 5
Susanna Cutler 2

This family are grouped together with }

The next record after them is this one:-

1841 England Census about Charles Carter
Name: Charles Carter
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England
Civil Parish: Walter Belchamp
Hundred: Hinckford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-registration District: Bulmer
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 331
Book: 6
Folio: 19
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Carter 14

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 13:50

1851 England Census about Charles Carder
Name: Charles Carder
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Gestingthorpe, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Gestingthorpe
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-registration District: Bulmer
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 91
Piece: 1788
Folio: 143
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Carder 23
xxxx Harriett Finch 22 xxxx (see marriage )
Anna Finch 10 Mo

..................................

This family are living next door:-

1851 England Census about William Corder
Name: William Corder
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Edith Corder
Gender: Male
Where born: Gestingthorpe, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Gestingthorpe
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-registration District: Bulmer
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 92
Piece: 1788
Folio: 143
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
William Corder 26
Edith Corder 24
Hannah Corder 4
Benjamin Corder 2
Sarah Smith 71
.............................................

and this family next door to William:-

1851 England Census about Lucy Corder
Name: Lucy Corder
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Belchamp Walter, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Gestingthorpe
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-registration District: Bulmer
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 93
Piece: 1788
Folio: 143
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Lucy Corder 44
John Corder 67 - father in law
Susan Smith 18 - daughter of Lucy Corder

Catherine

Catherine Report 4 Feb 2014 14:06

His mother's death?

Deaths Dec 1842 (>99%)
Cutler Mary Sudbury 12 287

?

1851 England Census about John Cutler
Name: John Cutler
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Walter Belchm, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Belchamp Walter
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: Ag.Labourer
Condition as to marriage: Widower
Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-registration District: Bulmer
ED, institution, or vessel: 5 and 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 138
Piece: 1788
Folio: 97
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
John Cutler 51
Henry Cutler 17
Susan Cutler 25

.....................
(missing Robert?)

Deaths Dec 1848 (>99%)
Cutler Robert Sudbury 12 306

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 4 Feb 2014 15:17

Essex Standard 06/06/1855

Charles Carder alias Cutler, a labourer, from Gestingthorpe was summoned by the Surveyor of Gestingthorpe for releasing a donkey which had been seized for the purpose of impounding when straying on the highway. Fined 26s plus 8s 6d for costs. In default, committed for 6 weeks

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 4 Feb 2014 15:24

Charles and family in 1871

CARDER, Charles Head M 44 1827 Essex VIEW
CARDER, Harriett Wife F 41 1830 Essex VIEW
CARDER, Sarah Daughter F 18 1853 Essex VIEW
CARDER, Henry Son M 16 1855 Essex VIEW
CARDER, Lidia Daughter F 11 1860 Essex VIEW
CARDER, Lucy Daughter F 9 1862 Essex VIEW
CARDER, Emily Daughter F 7 1864 Essex VIEW
CARDER, Ellen Daughter F 3 1868 Essex VIEW Piece: 1699 Folio: 65 Page: 4 Registration District: Halstead Civil Parish: Castle Hedingham Municipal Borough: Address: Chapel Street, Castle Hedingham County: Essex refine search back to 1871 census search resultsBack to all search results

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Feb 2014 16:53

As no father was named on his marriage cert, you will be able to trace only his mother's line

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 4 Feb 2014 17:09

Parish Records Collection burial
Printer friendly version First name(s): Robert
Last name: CUTLER
Date of burial 13 Nov 1848
Age at death: 13
Calculated year of birth: 1835
Place of burial Belchamp Walter
Dedication: St Mary the Virgin
County: Essex
Notes:
Belchamp Walter St Mary the Virgin:

Denomination: Anglican Coverage 1759 - 1879 Number of entries: 1,216
Record source: National Burial Index Data provider: Essex Society for Family History

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 4 Feb 2014 17:11

First name(s): Mary
Last name: CUTLER
Date of burial 2 Oct 1842
Age at death: 36
Calculated year of birth: 1806
Place of burial Belchamp Walter
Dedication: St Mary the Virgin
County: Essex
Notes:
Belchamp Walter St Mary the Virgin:

Denomination: Anglican Coverage 1759 - 1879 Number of entries: 1,216
Record source: National Burial Index Data provider: Essex Society for Family History

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 5 Feb 2014 12:14

Hello Fay and welcome to the Community Boards.





I will let Fay know that she has replies to her query. :-)

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 5 Feb 2014 14:06

???????
Someone on Ancestry has Charles Carder about 1826 with parents Robert and Susan


Charles Carder
Simmonds Family Tree
Birth: Abt 1826 - Essex, England
Marriage: 1 Oct 1851 - Gestingthorpe, Essex, England
Death: Oct 1895 - Castle Hedingham, Essex, England
Parents: Robert Carder, Susan
Spouse: Harriet Finch

Presumably this couple in 1841 but I can?t find any connection to a Charles 1826/1827

CARDER, Robert M 30 1811 Essex VIEW
CARDER, Susan F 30 1811 Essex VIEW
CARDER, William M 10 1831 Essex VIEW
CARDER, John M 60 1781 Essex VIEW Piece: 331 Book/Folio: 16 Page: 2 Registration District: Sudbury Civil Parish: Belchamp Walter Municipal Borough: Address: Puttick End, Belchamp Walter County: Essex