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I am hoping there is somebody out there who can help me, I know Jones is a difficult name. I know only that he was a Collier in 1872 on his daughters marriage certificate, Elizabeth Jones born abt 1844 Monmouth & died 1910. At the time of her marriage to Semei Stanfield she was living 8 Cathays Terrace in the Parish of St John Cardiff, County of Glamorgan, so maybe he was too. She was also married before in 1865 to a William Stanfield so maybe she was living with her father in 1851/1861. I am trying to work backwards here.
Have just checked Ancestry and there was an 1861 Census with a Theophilus Jones born abt 1821 Carmarthenshire, wife Elizabeth and other John & Elizabeth which I take could be children. I cant access as I am not a member. Thought this might help.
Any help would be appreciated
Kind regards Julia
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That 1861 does not appear to be your Theophilus I am afraid....
Name: Theophilus Jones
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Merthyr Fact, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Llandefeilog
County/Island: Carmarthenshire
Country: Wales
Registration District: Carmarthen
Sub-registration District: Llangendeirne
ED, institution, or vessel: 23c
Household Schedule Number: 34
Neighbors:
Piece: 4136
Folio: 44
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Theophilus Jones
40
Elizabeth Jones
35
John Jones
12
Elizth Jones
6
Thomas Jones
3
Daniel Jones
1
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 4136; Folio: 44; Page: 8; GSU roll: 543239.
Chris
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Hi Julia
Who were the witnesses on the marriage certificates?
Do you know if Elizabeth had any siblings, I'm guessing you don't!
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1871
DAVIS, Robert Head M 56 1815 Glamorgan
DAVIS, Frances Wife F 54 1817 Glamorgan
DAVIS, Minnie Daughter F 8 1863 Glamorgan
JONES, Minnie B Child Nurse F 0 1871 Gloucestershire
Piece: 5357
Folio: 56
Page: 16
Registration District: Cardiff
Civil Parish: Cardiff (St John)
Municipal Borough: Cardiff
Address: Cathays Ter, Cardiff (St John), Cardiff
County: Glamorganshire
(looks to be number 8, not sure about Minnie surname)
Chris :)
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perhaps this one
1851 census transcription details for: 4, Penmark, Bedwellty
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2448
Folio: 796
Page: 1
Reg. District: Abergavenny
Sub District: Tredegar
Parish: Bedwellty
Enum. District: 43
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Penmark, Bedwellty
County: Monmouthshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WESTLAKE, John Head Married M 29 1822 Miner
Devonshire
WESTLAKE, Caroline Wife Married F 35 1816
Carmarthen
JONES, Theophilus Son M 11 1840 Halier
Denbighshire
JONES, Elisabeth Daughter F 9 1842
Tredegar, Monmouthshire
JONES, Harriett Daughter F 7 1844
Blaina, Monmouthshire
JONES, William Son M 5 1846
Glamorganshire
I think mother is Catherine not Caroline
1841
Name: Catherine Jones
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Bedwelty
Hundred: Wentllooge (Lower Division)
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration District: Abergavenny
Sub-registration District: Tredegar
Neighbors:
Piece: 750
Book: 11
Folio: 12
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Theophilus Jones>>>>>>>Coal miner
33
Catherine Jones
28
Theophilus Jones
2
Elizabeth Jones
1861 census transcription details for: Moira Road, Risca
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 4025
Folio: 5
Page: 7
Reg. District: Newport
Sub District: 3 St Woollos
Parish: Risca
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Moira Road, Risca
County: Monmouthshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
JONES, Catherine Head Widow F 49 1812 House Keeper
Fishguard, Pembrokeshire
JONES, Harriet Daughter Unmarried F 16 1845 Tin Works
..., Monmouthshire
Possible death of Theophilus
Deaths Mar 1850 (>99%)
JONES Theophilus Abergavenny 26 29
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Burials (Find My Past)
Day:20
Month:Feb
Year:1915
Age:67
Title:MR.
Forenames:SEMEI
Surname:STANFIELD
OS Grid Ref:ST 154801
Place:Whitchurch
Description:St.Mary (old)
County:Glamorgan
Country:Wales
Record source:Glamorgan Memorial Inscription index
Data provider:Glamorgan Family History Society
Day:09
Month:Feb
Year:1877
Age:02
Title:SON
Forenames:SEMEI
Surname:STANFIELD
Maiden name:
OS Grid Ref:ST 154801
Place:Whitchurch
Description:St.Mary (old)
(saw above if any use, Ann in Cardiff has a Whitchurch 'Thread', I believe)
Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%)
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Stanfield Senel 66 Newport M 11a 433
1911 (is this him?) (edits No!)
STANFIELD, Semin Head Married M 63 1848 Assurance Agent Whitchurch Glam
STANFIELD, Jeslina Wife Married37 years F 58 1853 Whitchurch Glam
STANFIELD, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 33 1878 Whitchurch Glam
STANFIELD, Jeslina Cornelia Daughter Single F 28 1883 Assistant School Teacher Whitchurch Glam
STANFIELD, Harold Stanley Son Single M 22 1889 Assurance Agent Whitchurch Glam
RG number: RG14
Piece: 32019
Reference: RG14PN32019 RG78PN1841 RD587 SD3 ED20 SN336
Registration District: Newport
Sub District: Rogerstone
Enumeration District: 20
Parish: Risca
Address: Yew Cottages Llanarth Square Pontymister
County: Monmouthshire
1881
STANFIELD, Sam Son In Law Married M 33 1848 Tinworker Washman
Whitchurch, Glamorganshire, Wales
STANFIELD, Jestina Daughter Married F 28 1853
Whitchurch, Glamorganshire, Wales
STANFIELD, Sarah Ann Grand Daughter Single F 3 1878
Whitchurch, Glamorganshire, Wales
STANFIELD, Richard Levi Grand Son Single M 1 1880
Whitchurch, Glamorganshire, Wales
STANFIELD, Virginia Emily Nurse Single F 14 1867 Nurse
Whitchurch, Glamorganshire, Wales
Piece: 5275
Folio: 158
Page: 12
Registration District: Cardiff
Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Municipal Borough:
Address: Exchange Inn Nr Llandaff Station, Whitchurch
County: Glamorganshire
Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
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DAVIES Anne Cardiff 11a 418
DAVIES Daniel Cardiff 11a 418
HEDGES Justina Cardiff 11a 418
Stanfield Semei Cardiff 11a 418
Chris :)
1881
STANFIELD, Simei Head Married M 29 1852 Overman & Publican
Machen, Monmouthshire
STANFIELD, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1847
Risca, Monmouthshire
STANFIELD, Frances Daughter Single F 13 1868
Dowlais, Glamorganshire, Wales
STANFIELD, Sarah A Daughter Single F 11 1870
Tonyrefrail, Glamorganshire, Wales
STANFIELD, Catherine M Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
STANFIELD, Agnus L Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
STANFIELD, Henrietta Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
STANFIELD, Richard W G Son Single M 3 1878 Scholar
Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
STANFIELD, Hinga Daughter Single F 2 1879 Scholar
Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
STANFIELD, Godfry Son Single M 0 1881
Aberystruth, Monmouthshire
Piece: 5241
Folio: 132
Page: 6
Registration District: Bedwelty
Civil Parish: Aberystruth
Municipal Borough:
Address: Landavel Inn, Aberystruth
County: Monmouthshire
Deaths Jun 1894 (>99%)
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Stanfield Semei 42 Bedwelty 11a 57
(Probate entry for above, Admin.to Elizabeth, widow. He was of 'LLandaval Inn, Aberystruth, Inn Keeper, Colliery Manager)
1901
STANFIELD, Elizabeth Head Widow F 55 1846 Beer House Keeper
Tredegar, Monmouthshire
DIXON, Minnie Grand Daughter F 11 1890
Rogerston, Monmouthshire
STANFIELD, Burnis Grand Daughter F 5 1896
Tredegar, Monmouthshire
Piece: 4933
Folio: 105
Page: 13
Registration District: Bedwelty
Civil Parish: Ebbw Vale
Municipal Borough:
Address: Llandafal, Ebbw Vale, Cwm
County: Monmouthshire
Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)
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Stanfield Elizabeth Cardiff 11a 387
Stanfield Semei Cardiff 11a 387
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1851 Wales Census
Name:Elizabeth Jones
Age:8
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1843
Relation:Daughter
Mother's Name:Ann Jones
Gender:Female
Where born:Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township:Bedwellty
Town:Tredegar
County/Island:Monmouthshire
Country:Wales
Registration District:Abergavenny
Sub-registration District:Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel:10
Piece:2448
Folio:165
Page Number:5
Household Schedule Number:13
Household Members:
Ann Jones 39 <<widow
Mary Jones 13
Sarah Jones 11
Elizabeth Jones 8
Benjamin Jones 6
Thomas Jones 3
John Daniel 24
Noah Thomas 24
Thomas James 20
I cant seem to see this family in 1841?
Two possible deaths for the father.
Deaths Mar 1850
JONES Theophilus Abergavenny 26 29
Deaths Jun 1850
JONES Theophilus Rosser Abergavenny 26 40
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Perhaps this one may be the one? He was a collier.
Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record
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Grooms Last Name: Jones
Grooms First Name: Theophilus
Grooms Fathers First Name: Edward
Grooms Fathers Last Name: Jones
Grooms Parish:
Grooms Age: Full
Brides Last Name: Thomas
Brides First Name: Elizabeth
Brides Fathers First Name: James
Brides Fathers Last Name: Thomas
Brides Parish:
Brides Age: Full
County: Monmouthshire
Place / Parish: Mynyddislwyn
Marriage Year: 1843
Marriage Month: Nov
Marriage Day: 18
Page: 100
Record source: Monmouthshire Marriages - Transcripts
Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
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Day: 10
Month: Jul
Year: 1821
Forename(s): Theophilus
Surname: Jones
Relationship: Son
Abode: Tonypistill
Parent's Name: Edward & Jennet
Parent's Trade or Profession: Carpenter
Notes:
Minister & Position: Thos. Jones,pc
Parish: Mynyddislwyn
Church: St Tudor
County: Monmouthshire
Record Title: Mynyddislwyn Baptisms 1815 - 1907
Record source: Gwent FHS Baptisms - Blackwood Branch
Data provider: Gwent Family History Society
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1841 census transcription details for: Penllwyn, Mynyddyslwyn, Clawrplwyf
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 751
Book/Folio: 8/54
Page: 3
Reg. District: Newport
Sub District: Mynyddyslwyn
Parish: Mynyddyslwyn
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Penllwyn, Mynyddyslwyn, Clawrplwyf
County: Monmouthshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WILLIAMS, George M 25 1816 carpenter Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS, Ann F 24 1817 Monmouthshire
JONES, John M 23 1818 collier Monmouthshire
>>>JONES, Theophilus M 20 1821 collier Monmouthshire
JONES, Edwd M 12 1829 collier Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS, Thos M 23 1818 blacksmith Monmouthshire
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?? Theophilus as found by Alviegal still in Mynyddyslwyn where he was baptised and married 2 years later.
So Ann several years older, married previously and Mary and Sarah are her children as surname Thomas.
1841 census transcription details for: Penllwyn, Mynyddyslwyn, Clawrplwyf
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 751
Book/Folio: 8/54
Page: 3
Reg. District: Newport
Sub District: Mynyddyslwyn
Parish: Mynyddyslwyn
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Penllwyn, Mynyddyslwyn, Clawrplwyf
County: Monmouthshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WILLIAMS, George M 25 1816 Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS, Ann F 24 1817 Monmouthshire
JONES, John M 23 1818 Monmouthshire
JONES, Theophilus M 20 1821 Monmouthshire<<<Collier
JONES, Edwd M 12 1829 Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS, Thos M 23 1818 Monmouthshire
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?? Ann, Sarah and Mary correct ages, was there a previous Elizabeth. Family in Bedwelty as per 1851
1841 census transcription details for: Plantation Row Rumney Iron Works, Bedwellty, Uchlawrcoed
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 750
Book/Folio: 16/28
Page: 14
Reg. District: Abergavenny
Sub District: Tredegar
Parish: Bedwellty
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Plantation Row Rumney Iron Works, Bedwellty, Uchlawrcoed
County: Monmouthshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
THOMAS, John M 35 1806
THOMAS, Ann F 30 1811 Monmouthshire
THOMAS, James M 12 1829 Monmouthshire
THOMAS, Elizabeth F 9 1832 Monmouthshire
THOMAS, Sarah F 3 1838 Monmouthshire
THOMAS, Mary F 2 1839 Monmouthshire
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I am sorry I have not been able to reply before but I live in Oz - time difference. Thank you so much for all you have found, I am going to print it all out and try and sort through it. There are a few things there that need a closer look at. Somebody asked the question whom the witnesses were on the marriage certificate. When checking it out and I did notice this before that his name was down as the father but he did not sign as a witness, it was Richard Stanfield & Edmund Rees. I never really gave it a thought that he might be dead, which seems possible seeing as the marriage wasn't until 1872.
With regard to the death in 1850 of Theophilus it is possible it could be Catherine Jones & Theophilus but Elizabeth would have been born then. ??? The trouble is Jones is a very difficult name but what you have given me is a chance at least to find out something.
Thank you for your kindness Julia
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