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Richard Worrall - CONFUSED?!
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Peter | Report | 22 Jan 2014 14:11 |
That is great - will get on it! |
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Chris Ho :) | Report | 22 Jan 2014 13:14 |
WORRALL JOHN 1816 FRODSHAM, OVERTON CHESHIRE |
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Potty | Report | 22 Jan 2014 12:29 |
This is what the Ancestry record says - is this the same as the GR one? If so, I don't think that you will get a copy of the will from GR - you could try contacting the Probate Registry at Chester, as mentioned below: |
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Peter | Report | 21 Jan 2014 20:51 |
Yeah that is it - will probably confirm Richard as a son or not (i.e. if he is mentioned or not)! |
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Flip | Report | 21 Jan 2014 20:37 |
I can see that probate record on ancestry (only have a standard sub for GR so can't see it on here) - but there are no order options available on ancestry, so not sure what you will get on GR if you order it. It is in this record set: |
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Peter | Report | 20 Jan 2014 20:27 |
Thank you! |
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Flip | Report | 20 Jan 2014 19:26 |
Well, one option would be to try to contact the tree owners - see what research has gone into their findings, but treat all the info with a large pinch of salt in the meantime. |
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Peter | Report | 20 Jan 2014 14:05 |
Yeah, I came to the same conclusion. We shall see. Hmmm difficult to say where to go from here really! |
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Flip | Report | 20 Jan 2014 05:46 |
If they are correct, then the marriage you've found for Richard/Hannah would go out the window - surely his mother would have been called Moore, unless she was illegitimate. That tree does not give an Edward Moore as his grandfather as they don't have Hannah's parentage, so it's rather suspect. |
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Peter | Report | 19 Jan 2014 18:28 |
With this, there is tree on ancestry that has a photograph of Richard's son William Worrall (1826-1900). Apparently the back of the photo says: |
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Peter | Report | 19 Jan 2014 18:15 |
Thank you for that Flip - I suppose I was saying, I suspected Richard was the one baptised in 1788 but now I see your point. There does seem to be TWO Richard Worralls, albeit with same parent names which is still odd - the one who died in 1800 could be a cousin of the one born 1788. |
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Flip | Report | 19 Jan 2014 16:46 |
But how do you know his parents were John/Margaret - there is nothing to support this if you accept the 1800 burial? |
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Peter | Report | 19 Jan 2014 15:45 |
Thank you Flip - yeah, I came to a similar conclusion, as in not knowing Richard Worrall was born DEFINITELY in Frodsham. I suspected that there were two John and Margaret Worralls, with the males being perhaps cousins? Am I wrong in suggesting there must be a family connection between these two,especially as Richard (c 1784-1847) my ancestor was married there, raised his family and then subsequently was buried there? |
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Flip | Report | 19 Jan 2014 14:31 |
Not sure where you go next, but you can't know Richard was born in Frodsham - you only have the 1841 census with born "in county", which may not even be right. I would be tempted to believe the 1800 death - parish registers were often cross-referenced with death details, although you'd need to see them to check. Also the 1788 christening could be mis-transcribed but without checking the actual register you won't know for sure. |
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Peter | Report | 19 Jan 2014 12:47 |
Thanks Potty - I've already downloaded the images from FindMyPast. Also one for a Peggy Worrall in baptised in December 1788. Again, where do we go from here then? |
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Potty | Report | 19 Jan 2014 11:45 |
Quite often a child was given the same name as one who had died but this doesn't seem to be the case here as the one born 1784 is shown as dying in 1800 so after the 2nd baptism. Also, the 1784 record on familysearch is from Parish records and the 1788 one is from Bishop's Transcripts, so a mistranscription is possible. |
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Peter | Report | 18 Jan 2014 21:57 |
Thank you Mike, yes, that is their children! Thank you for adding that here! Hopefully it will help when working back over! |
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Mike * | Report | 18 Jan 2014 19:33 |
MARRIAGE |
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Peter | Report | 18 Jan 2014 15:40 |
Also, only one marriage of a John Worrall and a Margaret: |
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Peter | Report | 18 Jan 2014 15:10 |
Yeah thanks Shirely, already looking but always appreciate second opinions. And Margee, yeah, I suspect the ancestry trees are all copied from the same one |