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15 Jan 2014 05:22 |
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription First Name:EMILY Last Name:BUTTON Title:- Age Transcribed:26 Year:1908 Departure Month:4 Departure Day:23 Ship name:OTTAWA Ship Departure Port:LIVERPOOL Destination Port:MONTREAL State:- Country:CANADA Destination:MONTREAL Destination Place Country:CANADA Gender:Female Marital Status:S Occupation:DOMESTIC Year Of Birth:1882 Birth Month:- Birth Day:- Country Of Birth:- Last Residence Country:- UK Address:- Ship Official Number:70932 Ship Master's First Name:J Ship Master's Surname:EVANS Ship Master's Title:- Shipping line:DOMINION City:LIVERPOOL Ship Destination Port:MONTREAL Ship Destination Country:CANADA Ship Square Feet:10449 Ship Registered Tonnage:2991 Number Of Passengers:359
Departing on same ticket was: First Name:ED Last Name:BUTTON Age Transcribed:21 Gender:Male Marital Status:S Occupation:LABORER
Arrival: Ship: OTTAWA Shipping Line: Dominion Line Departure Port and Date (yyyy/mm/dd): Liverpool, England - 1908-04-23 Port and Date of Arrival: Montreal, Que. - 1908-05-01 Quebec, Que. - Remarks: List Number: 823206 Reference: RG 76 Microfilm: T-493 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e147/e003667798.jpg
Census nominal day was 1st June for 1911-1921.
AB B/M/D records are closed for lesser of 120/75/50 y or 50 y after event - that's the current law, which doesn't apply to the open pre-provincial NWT records - AB became a province 1/9/1905.
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15 Jan 2014 00:16 |
WOW
Thank you all for your help. There was quite a bit there I didn't know
Gerry :-D
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14 Jan 2014 21:33 |
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/index.jsp 1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Manitoba / Brandon / 39 Townships 11 / page 13 13 143 Kemp Eva Lt 1 Blk 7 Town of Rivers F Head S Jun 1880 30 --------------- 37 152 Button Edmund Lt ?? Blk 3 Town of Rivers M Head S Dec 1882 28 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001945272.pdf [Each immig 1908]
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/post-offices/001001-100.01-e.php Rivers - Sec. 23, Twp. 12, R. 21, WPM - 1908-03-16 Brandon (Staff Office) - Sec. 23, Twp. 10, R. 19 - 1881 (Princess and 11th) [So Rivers was 12 m N & 12m W of Brandon - i.e., 17m NW of Brandon, but 24 by road]
WW1 via http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc002/278398a.gif http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc002/278398b.gif [NOK=Eva in Edmonton AB - Edmond had previous military experience in SA]
1916 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KM5X-7LY Affiliate Film Number: T-21949 GS Film number: 2434964 Digital Folder Number: 004363978 Image Number: 01211 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21949/pdf/31228_4363978-01210.pdf
Right now, you can search 1921 for free (with images) via: http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription First Name:EDMOND DAVID Last Name:BUTTON Age At Attestation Months:9 Age At Attestation Years:21 Record set:British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Attestation Day:- Attestation Month:- Year Of Birth:- Document Type:Discharge Year:- Birth Country:- Birth County:- Attestation Corps:- Birth Parish:- Attestation Soldier Number:- Birth Town:- Discharge Corps:112TH CO IMPERIAL YEOMANRY Discharge Soldier Number:35293 Rank:PRIVATE Box:4472 Regiment:- Box Record Number:42 Soldier Number:35293
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14 Jan 2014 12:27 |
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Henry Newman Button Name: Henry Newman Button Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1855 Age: 21 Father's Name: Newman Button Spouse's Name: Fanny Isabella Whale Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse's Father's Name: Daniel Whale Marriage Date: 2 Jul 1876 Marriage Place: Westminster, London, England
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henry Newman Button Name: Henry Newman Button, widower, S Mailman Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Age: 38 Spouse Name: Sally Jane Roberts Spouse Age: 27 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 13 May 1894 Parish: Lambeth St Andrew Borough: Lambeth Father Name: Frederick Button, deceased Spouse Father: Benjamin Ephrain Roberts, leather dresser Register Type: Parish Register
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14 Jan 2014 12:13 |
1911 census transcription details for: 106 Fort Road Bermondsey Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN1889 RG78PN67 RD24 SD2 ED21 SN561 Reg. District: St Olave (Bermondsey) Sub District: Bermondsey Parish: Bermondsey Enum. District: 21 Address: 106 Fort Road Bermondsey County: London Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born BUTTON, Henry Newman Head Married M 55 1856 Mail Porter General Post Office City of London BUTTON, Sally Jane Wife Married 18 years F 44 1867 Bermondsey London BUTTON, Daisy Daughter Single F 18 1893 Cashier Waitress Lambeth London BUTTON, Bertha Daughter Single F 15 1896 Frilling Machines Bermondsey London BUTTON, Henry B Cecil Son Single M 12 1899 School Bermondsey London BUTTON, Herbert Frederick Son Single M 9 1902 School Bermondsey London BUTTON, Sidney Victor Son Single M 7 1904 School Bermondsey London BUTTON, Leonard Courtman Son M 4 1907 Bermondsey London BUTTON, Waller Nelson Son M 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Bermondsey London
1901 census transcription details for: 141, Fort Road, Bermondsey Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 394 Folio: 178 Page: 20 Reg. District: St Olave Southwark Sub District: Bermondsey Parish: Bermondsey Enum. District: 47 Ecclesiastical District: St Anne City/Municipal Borough: Address: 141, Fort Road, Bermondsey County: London Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born BUTTON, Henry N Head Married M 45 1856 Post Office Porter City, London BUTTON, Sally J Wife Married F 35 1866 Bermondsey, London BUTTON, Daisy Daughter F 8 1893 Lambeth, London BUTTON, Bertha Daughter F 5 1896 Bermondsey, London BUTTON, Henry C Son M 2 1899 Bermondsey, London GREEN, George Visitor Married M 62 1839 Swiss Embroidery Carder Brentford, Middlesex GREEN, Annie Visitor Married F 61 1840 Umbrella Framer Queenhithe, London
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Civil Registration event: Death Print Close Name: BUTTON, Fanny Isabella Registration district: Kensington County: London Year of registration: 1893 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 38 Volume no: 1A Page no: 132
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14 Jan 2014 11:31 |
Person:Ed BUTTON (Labourer 21?) Departure date:23 April 1908 Port of departure:Liverpool Destination port:Montreal Destination country:Canada Ship:OTTAWA
(possible Outgoing with an Emily 26 Domestic)
Chris :)
Deaths Mar 1952 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ BUTTON Emily H 75 Hammersmith 5c 849
(thought might be above, but saw below!)
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 Emily Harriett Button Gender: Female Christening Date: 10 Sep 1876 Christening Place: Hastings, Sussex, England Father's Name: Henry Button Mother's Name: Ann
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14 Jan 2014 11:23 |
Here he is in his younger days,
1891 census transcription details for: 2, Gravel Pit, Cowleys, Great Munden, Stockholds Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 1095 Folio: 26 Page: 7 Reg. District: Ware Sub District: Standon Parish: Great Munden Enum. District: 3 Ecclesiastical District: Great Munden City/Municipal Borough: Address: 2, Gravel Pit, Cowleys, Great Munden, Stockholds County: Hertfordshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born WALLIS, George Head Married M 56 1835 Agricultural Labourer Great Munden, Hertfordshire WALLIS, Susan Wife Married F 54 1837 Great Munden, Hertfordshire WALLIS, Alice E Daughter Single F 21 1870 School Teacher Great Munden, Hertfordshire BUTTON, Emily D Visitor F 11 1880 Scholar Great Munden, Hertfordshire BUTTON, Ethel V Visitor F 9 1882 Scholar Pimlico, London BUTTON, Edward D Visitor M 8 1883 Scholar Pimlico, London CHEENEY, Frederick Visitor M 6 1885 Scholar Pimlico, London
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Violet Ethel Button Name: Violet Ethel Button Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 5 Feb 1882 Father's Name: Henry Newman Button Mother's Name: Fanny Isabella Button Parish or Poor Law Union: St Botolph, Aldgate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Emily Harriett Button Name: Emily Harriett Button Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 24 Aug 1879 Father's Name: Henry Newman Button Mother's Name: Fanny Isabella Button Parish or Poor Law Union: St Botolph, Aldgate Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
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Chris Ho :)
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14 Jan 2014 11:14 |
Baptism (Find My Past) First names:David Edmund Surname:Button Baptism year:1883 Baptism month:Mar Baptism day:7 Parish:St Gabriel, Warwick Square, Pimlico County:Middlesex Birth year:1882 Birth month:Dec Birth day:28 Father's First names:Henry Newman (Post Office Messenger) Mother's First names:Fanny Isabella Record source:Westminster Baptisms- Transcripts Data provider:Westminster Archives (4, Coleshill Buildings, Ebury Street)
Chris :)
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14 Jan 2014 11:10 |
Margee
Is the above man the son of Edmund David?
:-S
Edit: There are another couple of Button/Cavey births on freebmd but I cant see a marriage for a couple with those names
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14 Jan 2014 11:09 |
His father is named here. Previously at Great Munden.
London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 about Edmund Button Name: Edmund Button Age: 9 Birth Date: 28 Dec 1882 School: Ackmar Road School Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham Admission Date: 13 Jun 1892 Parent: Henry N Button of 24 Eddiscumbe? Rd Notes: Ackmar Road School (0653) opened 1884, in 1951 became Parson's Green Secondary School for Boys and Ackmar Primary School. A class for partially deaf children was established at the school in 1898 Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV01/ACK/AD/001
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14 Jan 2014 11:02 |
This says Edmund Norman was born 1919:
England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 about Edmund N Button Name: Edmund N Button Mother's Maiden Surname: Cavey Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1919 Registration District: Lambeth Inferred County: Greater London Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 559
But this gives birthdate 1917:
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Edmund Norman Button Name: Edmund Norman Button Birth Date: 14 May 1917 Date of Registration: Dec 1971 Age at Death: 54 Registration District: Bedford Inferred County: Bedfordshire Volume: 4a Page: 217
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14 Jan 2014 10:44 |
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name:Edmund David Button Of: 58 Regency Sq
Probate Date:30 Oct 1954
Death Date:11 Feb 1954
Death Place:Brighton, England Registry:London, England
Probate to: Kenneth Herbert Duffield, local government officer & Emanuel Fryde, solicitors managing clerk £3919 15s
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14 Jan 2014 10:30 |
I think this is possibly her in 1916:
1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta about Eva N* Burton Name: Eva N* Burton Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Age: 34 Est. Birth Year: 1882 Birthplace: England Home in 1916: 09B, Edmonton East, Alberta Address: 10128, 87th St Racial or Tribal Origin: English Sub District Desc.: (A - I) inclusive, City of Edmonton, such portion as is situated in this district according to the Representation Act, 1914. Household Members: Name Age Henry Taylor 50 Mary Emilie Taylor 53 Elsie Taylor 13 Eva N* Burton 34 Looks like Button on image. She's.a lodger.
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JoonieCloonie
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14 Jan 2014 02:08 |
I wonder where Eva was in 1916 and 1921?
She was in Brandon in 1911, immigrated 1908.
I don't have access to details of Canadian records at Ancestry, but using the search function I can't find her in either year
she was already in Edmonton when Edmund was attested in 1915
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc002/278398a.gif
so possibly if they did have children it was in Alberta and I have found in the past that there are just no accessible records there
but finding her in the 1916 or 1921 census could give an answer .......... Edmund was attested in July but I can't find what date the census was taken, but if it was before 16 July he should be there too
can't find them here either
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1916/Pages/1916.aspx
here we are, it began on 1 June 1916
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1916/Pages/about-census.aspx
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14 Jan 2014 01:45 |
fortunately I don't have any Canadian research to do particularly :-)
I did look at familysearch for anything I could find about a relation of my partner who emigrated to Canada ... knowing only that she married a Mr Smith, yes, Mr Smith. I couldn't find a marriage (I don't think there was one) and it was too recent (early 1920s) to find birth records ... the only other piece of information was what his occupation might have been ...
a hopeless task? :-D
What I found at familysearch was the infant death in the early 1920s of a child of a Mr Smith with the right wife's given name and when I looked for that Mr Smith in the 1911 census (before the 'marriage' so I couldn't even hope to find them together until the 1921 census came out) ... there he was with the right occupation.
all finally confirmed by the 1921 census ... but still no marriage!
sometimes, luck is on your side :-) ... although I don't want to say that the death of a child was luck of course ...
by the way this also works in Australia which also has stricter privacy laws
sometimes although the birth of a child falls after the cutoff date, the child may have died before the later cutoff date for deaths (which is 1983 for NSW for example) and the index will show the parents' given names, so searching by surname and parents' names alone will find that information which can be useful for confirming marriages and timelines
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Gerry
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14 Jan 2014 01:27 |
Thank you Margee and Joonie
He deffo had a child in 1917 - Edmund Norman b 14/3/1917 in Lambeth. Perhaps he was on leave from army and spent it in London!!
Blimey Joonie those privacy laws must make life very difficult for you in your research. Yep, that's his death 11/2/1954. He had four siblings, 3 girls and Frederick Albert
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MargaretM
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14 Jan 2014 01:11 |
Could this be Eva Naomi's death?
Web: International, Find A Grave Index about Eva Naomi Button Name: Eva Naomi Button Birth Date: 1880 Age at Death: 62 Death Date: 1942 Burial Place: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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JoonieCloonie
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14 Jan 2014 01:10 |
he must have turned around and come back to England after being shipped home :-)
Name: Edmund D Button Birth Date: abt 1883 Date of Registration: Mar 1954 Age at Death: 71 Registration District: Brighton Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 5h Page: 150
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14 Jan 2014 01:05 |
because of strict privacy laws the only bmd record for any children in Manitoba would be if one died more than 70 years ago ... the cutoff for births is 100 years
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
... 1912 is 101 years ago now :-) but there was only one Button after 1911, 26 Dec 1912, in Winnipeg, and mother was a Smith
there are 7 Button deaths but none of them match someone born within a few years after 1912
the other possibility is to look for marriages (more than 80 years ago i.e. before 1933) but that again leaves you right on the cusp and there is no way to tell from the records on line who the parents were
Did Edmund by any chance have a brother Stanley Amos Button? died in Brandon 1920 aged 38
Births Mar 1882 Button Stanley Amos W. Ham 4a 51
... no, coincidence, they are not brothers in the 1891/1901 English censuses
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MargaretM
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14 Jan 2014 00:54 |
This is him returning to Canada in 1918 at the end of the war so how could he be fathering children in England between 1917-30?
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Edmund Button Name: Edmund Button Date of Arrival: 21 Mar 1918 Vessel: Olympic Search Ship Database: View the 'Olympic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Roll: T-4757
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