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In a previous post I asked for information about an Arthur Jackson who married a Freda Burgess. Thanks to people's help I now know that his name was James Arthur Jackson who was imprisoned for bigamy in 1920.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1211768

Freda Burgess as I know her, was actually Freda Hebdon who appears as Freda Jackson in the 1911 census, living with Arthur in Leeds. Her birth place is listed as Finchley, Hertfordshire; however I can't find a record of this birth. Can anybody help? Her father is recorded as Alfred Hebdon, gardener, deceased on her 1910 wedding certificate to Arthur. I don't know where the name Burgess came from. She also sometimes included the middle name Emily.

How old is she on 1911 census please?

Andy

Doh! Sorry ~ 23 born abt 1888

She does appear to come out of nowhere!

Also I can't see a marriage or death for her father that fits the given facts. Maybe she made the name up.

Andy

Hmm that's what was worrying me! On her wedding certificate in 1915 (2nd marriage) she said her father was called Alfred Jackson, deceased, gardener. But then she also said her name was Freda Emily Burgess so no idea what was going on!

Her father was Alfred Jackson and she married Arthur Jackson
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EDIT

Opening post says :
Her father is recorded as Alfred Hebdon, gardener, deceased on her 1910 wedding certificate

so this is her 2nd marriage ?

Marriages Jun 1915
Burgess Freda E - Francis H Abson- Goole 9c 1925

Are you sure you have the right Freda ?

The one who married Adson looks to be a lot younger according to someone's tree ... and not born in Hertfordshire


Name:
Freda Emily Burgess

Birth: 1891 - Yorkshire, England
Death: 1934 - Goole, Yorkshire
Marriage: 1915 - Goole, Yorkshire
Spouse: Francis Henry Abson

It's been very confusing..
I originally had my granddad's birth certificate which said Freda Jackson, formerly Burgess so we assumed that that must be her maiden name.
I ordered the 1915 marriage certificate to Abson which states her name as Freda Emily Burgess and her father's name as Alfred Jackson, deceased gardener.
We had originally discounted the Freda Jackson from Finchley in the 1911 census because the maiden name was Hebdon but we had a look at the wedding certificate and it states her as Freda Hebdon, and her dad as Alfred Hebdon, deceased gardener.
The Alfred / deceased / gardener seemed a big coincidence so I assume she must have made a mistake and given his name as Jackson?

Name:
Freda E Abson

Birth Date:abt 1891

Date of Registration:Mar 1934

Age at Death:43

Registration District:Goole

Inferred County:Yorkshire West Riding

Volume:9c
Page:1039

She was 27 when she married Abson according to the marriage certificate I ordered in 1915.
She is 22 in 1910 on the marriage certificate to Jackson

When/ where was you grandfather born?

Does Freda's marriage cert say she's a widow ?

Yes the one to Abson states that she was a widow. However James Arthur Jackson was imprisoned for bigamy so I wondered if she had told her son that he had died instead of admitting that he had left. I could never find a death record for an Arthur Jackson in 1914 or 1915 and there is no record of a man falling from a train and dying from his injuries as she had claimed.
My grandfather was born in Sculcoates, Yorkshire in 1914

I wonder if Freda was FRIEDA from abroad ?

Sorry registered in Sculcoates, Yorkshire

I wondered about the possibility of being born outside of the country but with the inconsistencies with her surname, I'm not sure how easy that would be to follow. Why would she state Finchley, Hertfordshire as her birth town?

Marries as Hebdon to Jackson
but then married as Burgess to Abson

Gives Burgess as her maiden name on son's birth cert

Would normally say Jackson, late Hebdon, formerly Burgess

I see you already have another post about this family

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1211768

there you go -- I have been trying to locate a Freda / Frieda / Frida or then could be Alfreda or even Winifred born Finchley [should be Middlesex] Hertfordshire

Finchley comes under Barnet Middlesex

along the way in 1901 found 2 children born Finchley in Sheffield

in the Page Hall Orphanage

Irene Fox 1887 and sister Dorothy Fox 1890

Irene is Annie M I Fox / Dorothy is just Dorothy Fox --- there is a tree for Dorothy on Ancestry but no Irene /Annie

its bed time so that will keep unless some one would care to follow them ??

Mavis

In my first message on this post, I did include the link and explain that I had previously asked for information on Arthur Jackson as I didn't want to get in trouble for posting twice. However in this post I only wanted help in locating birth records for Freda Hebdon.