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Hi,

You people are amazing! thanks!

I have now got a new line of enquiry for this family and it is looking very promising. still have a long way to go to prove these are the people i am looking for, but Solomon - Cornelius (and his various mis-spellings) to Harold (Harry) looks very likely.

Much appreciated guys :-D

Dan

Did John have any siblings? There are other White/Malins births in the same area. Do any of these names mean anything?

Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
White Margaret E Malins Evesham 6c 279 Scan available - click to view

Births Sep 1925 (>99%)
White Gwendoline N Malins Birmingham N. 6d 742

Births Mar 1928 (>99%)
White Elizabeth M Malins Birmingham N. 6d 699

"Harold's Father was a Cornelius White, born in around 1857"

Although Civil registration began in 1837, it wasn't compulsory to register a birth until 1873 (ish). Unless you know differently, it's possible that Cornelius wasn't registered.
Even if he was, there were 6 weeks to get to the reg office - a birth mid Nov onwards might have been registered in Jan in the following year.

Prior to 1837, you are going to have to rely on Baptism and other parish records and hope not only that Solomon was but also that the records are on line.

John Married Joyce V Randles in 2nd quarter 1947.

Hi,

Thanks for the quick responses, I haven't yet got the marriage certificate, i think my mom might have the original so i will see if i can make a copy of it next time i see her.
The information has come from my mom, but i have no hard facts to back it up except about my Grandfather's birthdate, marriage and death.

I hadn't considered that birth record as it hadn't come up in my searches, I will keep digging and see if i can find that.

thanks again for the quick responses :)

Dan

1891 census transcription details for: Alley, Aldington


National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2337
Folio: 76
Page: 22
Reg. District: Evesham
Sub District: Broadway
Parish: Aldington
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St James Badsey
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Alley, Aldington
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WHITE, Cornelius Head Married M 35 1856 Gardener Market
Stanton, Gloucestershire
WHITE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 38 1853
Sedgeberrow, Worcestershire
WHITE, Florence Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Cleeve Prior, Worcestershire
WHITE, Ellis Son M 10 1881 Scholar
Badsey, Worcestershire
WHITE, Harry Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Aldington, Worcestershire
WHITE, Geoffrey Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Aldington, Worcestershire
WHITE, Ernest Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Aldington, Worcestershire
WHITE, Gertrude Daughter F 3 1888
Aldington, Worcestershire

Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
Malins Martha White Evesham 6c 431 Scan available - click to view
WHITE HARRY MALINS Evesham 6c 431

When and who did John marry? I can't find a marriage for him.

There are some rare name combinations here...Only 3 Cornelius born to father Soloman in the 1861 census.


Name:Cornelius White
Age:4
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1857
Relation:Son
Father's Name:Solomon White
Mother's Name:Sophia White
Gender:Male
Where born:Stanton, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish:Stanton
County/Island:Gloucestershire
Country:England
Registration District:Winchcomb
Sub-registration District:Guiting
Solomon White 36
Sophia White 36
Hubert White 10
Agnes White 7
Cornelius White 4
Hester White 2


Andy

Have you ruled this out as a possible birth?

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005

Name: John C White
Mother's Maiden Surname: Malins
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Registration District: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 525

BUT there are so many John C Whites born about that time it may not be him. Don't fall into the trap (as many of us do!) of believing that because someone married and died in a location that they were also born there. He may have been, but then again his family could have moved from elsewhere.

Welcome to the boards, Dan.

Where did you get the info on John's father, etc? The first thing you need to do is to get John's marriage cert, this will confirm his father's name and also give you his occupation.

Hello Dan, welcome to the boards.

Have you actually bought John Cornelius' marriage certificate to confirm his father's name and occupation? If so, can you give us all of the details from it?

If you don't have it, I'd strongly recommend getting it so you know you're working from hard facts.