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12 Jan 2014 12:49 |
John, Eleanor.........sons George and Arthur and married daughter Beatrice appear on the 1911 Canada census.
I can't seem to find an outgoing passengers list for them though.
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Alberta / Calgary / 63 Calgary /
Stanford John ? M Head M May 1867 64 1901 Stanford Elenore F Wife M Jul 1858 52 1901 Stanford George E M Son S Dec 1885 25 1901 Stanford Arthur S M Son S May 1889 21 1901 Perkins? Sydney W M Son-in-law M Sep 1897 33 1901 Perkins? Beatrice F Daughter M Nov 1873 37 1901 Perkins? John W. M Grandson S Oct 1905 5
I have found an incoming passengers list for John and Eleanor...
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about John W Stanford Name: John W Stanford Birth Date: abt 1847 Age: 66 ....(Merchant) Eleanor....Wife 53 Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada Arrival Date: 29 Mar 1913 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage: Halifax Ship Name: Empress of Britain Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Britain' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line Official Number: 120940
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12 Jan 2014 12:23 |
Checking out the deatails of John W Stanford (Son) 14 born Spitalfields.........who appears with Joahn and Elizabeth in the 1861 census.......
I came across this...
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about John George Stanford Name: John George Stanford Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 24 May 1844 Father's Name: John Stanford (Brewers Clerk) Abode: St Mathew, Bethnal Green Mother's Name: Elizabeth Mary Stanford Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers Births Dec 1843 (>99%) STANFORD John George Bethnal Gn 2 65
He died in infancy...
Deaths Mar 1845 (>99%) STANFORD John George Bethnal Green 2 46
..England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about John William Stanford Name: John William Stanford Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1847 Registration District: Stepney Inferred County: London Volume: 2 Page: 463
I'm not seeing a baptism for John William Stanford but here is his 1st marriage...
Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%) HICKS Ann Charlotte Mile End 1c 1124 Stanford John William Mile End 1c 1124
..1871 England Census about John W Stanford Name: John W Stanford Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann C Stanford Gender: Male Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Registration District: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 52 Household Schedule Number: 208 Piece: 568 Folio: 21 Page Number: 35 Household Members: Name Age John W Stanford 24 (Brewers Servant) Ann C Stanford 23 Anne M Stanford 3 Emma E Stanford 1
..1881 England Census about John W. Stanford Name: John W. Stanford Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Ann E. Stanford Gender: Male Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 76 Campbell Rd Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Brewers Miller Registration District: Poplar Sub-registration District: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 496 Folio: 81 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age John W. Stanford 34 (Brewers Miller) Ann E. Stanford 33 Annie M. Stanford 13 Helena E. Stanford 9 Beatrice I. Stanford 7 Mirna S. Stanford 5 Maud P. Stanford 2 John C. Stanford J.M. Cromely 60 (Lodger) Ann (Mrs) Hicks 55 (Servant) Widower
2nd marriage...
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John William Stanford (Widower) Brewers Miller Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Age: 40 Spouse Name: Eleanor Mira Story (Spinster) Spouse Age: 29 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 6 Oct 1887 Parish: Dalston St Mark Borough: Hackney Father Name: John Stanford (Brewers Miller) Deceased Spouse Father: George Latham Story (Gentleman) Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses: Annie Mira Stanford and Emma Story.
John's daughter "Annie"...
Births Mar 1868 (>99%) Stanford Anne Mira Mile End 1c 619
..1891 England Census about John W Stanford Name: John W Stanford Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eleanor M Stanford Gender: Male Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: West Ham Sub-registration District: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 77 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1334 Folio: 91 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age John W Stanford 44 (Brewers Miller) Eleanor M Stanford 32 Helena E Stanford 19 Beatrice Stanford 17 Mera S Stanford 15 Maud P Stanford 12 John C Stanford 10 Emma E Stanford 6 George E Stanford 5 Arthur S Stanford 10/12
..1901 England Census about John W Stanford Name: John W Stanford Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Eleanor M Stanford Birth Place: Stepney, London, England Civil Parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John W Stanford 54 (Brewers Miller) Eleanor M Stanford 42 Mira S Stanford 25 Emma E Stanford 16 George E Stanford 15 Arthur S Stanford 10 Horace C Grove 27 (Visitor)
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ErikaH
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11 Jan 2014 10:52 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1336096
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PricklyHolly
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9 Jan 2014 22:09 |
My pleasure.
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9 Jan 2014 21:32 |
thank you x
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PricklyHolly
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9 Jan 2014 21:25 |
It looks that way to me.
To be 100% certain.........you would need to purchase a copy of the marriage certificate.
Prickles.
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9 Jan 2014 20:51 |
so to clarify alfred charles married twice born in suffolk and then went to epping where he ran a pub thank you
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9 Jan 2014 19:40 |
thank you to you all x
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9 Jan 2014 13:29 |
1861 England Census about Alfred C Stamford Name: Alfred C Stamford Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Brother-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Peccles, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Stepney Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town Western ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 175 Piece: 290 Folio: 111 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Thomas M Terry 35 Emma E Terry 20 Thomas Terry 22 (Nephew) Alfred C Stamford 5 Lodgers... Geoge Jackson 47 Alfred R Leask 25 Mary G Leask 27 Alfred R Leask 3 Charles C Leask 1
Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%) Stanford Emma Elizabeth Whitechapel 1c 733 TERRY Thomas Morris Whitechapel 1c 733
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emma Elizabeth Stanford (Spinster) Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Age: 20 Spouse Name: Thomas Morris Terry (Widower) Mariner Spouse Age: 35 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 3 Nov 1860 Parish: Southwark Christ Church Borough: Southwark Father Name: John Stanford (Miller) Spouse Father: Thomas Terry (Farmer) Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses: John Stanford and Eliza Story.
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Emma Elizabeth Stanford Name: Emma Elizabeth Stanford Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 21 Jun 1840 Father's Name: John Stanford (Clerk) Mother's Name: Elizabeth Mary Stanford Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
1851 England Census about John Stanford Name: John Stanford Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth M Stanford Gender: M (Male) Where born: Kelcall, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Spitalfields County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration District: Whitechapel Sub-registration District: Artillery ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 8 Piece: 1543 Folio: 212 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age John Stanford 37 (Malt Roasters Clerk) Elizabeth M Stanford 43 Emma Elizth Stanford 10 George L Storey 38 (Vistor)
..1861 England Census about John Stanford Name: John Stanford Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth N Stanford Gender: Male Where born: Kelsal, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: St George in the East County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: St George In The East Sub-registration District: St Paul ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 112 Piece: 280 Folio: 38 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age John Stanford 49 (Miller) Elizabeth N Stanford 53 John W Stanford 14
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Elizabeth Mary Story (Spinster) Spouse Name: John Stanford (Bachelor) Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 20 Aug 1839 Parish: St Marylebone Borough: Westminster Father Name: John Story (Auctioneer) Spouse Father: John Stanford (Malster) Register Type: Parish Register
London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about Elizabeth Mary Story Name: Elizabeth Mary Story Baptism Date: 26 Jul 1807 Parish: St Mary, Whitechapel County: Middlesex Borough: Tower Hamlets Parent(s): John, Elizabeth Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register
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ErikaH
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9 Jan 2014 13:19 |
For background
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1335865
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9 Jan 2014 13:07 |
Household transcription 1911 census Person: STANFORD, Clement Institution: Forts Brockhurst And Elson, FORTS BROCKHURST & ELSON Military details: Driver Roy Field Artillery Awaiting Discharge At The Dis STANFORD, Clement Single ? 25 1886 Essex Stratford VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 5646 Reference: RG14PN5646 RD91 SD1 ED33 SN9999 Registration District: Alverstoke Sub District: Alverstoke Enumeration District: 33 Parish: Alverstoke Address: Brockhurst Gosport Alverstoke County: Hampshire
..British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about Clement Stanford Name: Clement Stanford Regiment or Corps: Royal Field Artillery, Labour Corps Regimental Number: 49000, 510994
UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920 about Clement Stanford Name: Clement Stanford Discharge Unit: A.C.L.C. ex Bed. Regiment Number: 510994 Rank: Pte. Badge Number: B171793 Unit: Labour Corps (Nottingham) Piece: 3199 List Number: LC 3701-4100 Record Group: WO Record Class: 329 England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Clement Stanford Name: Clement Stanford Spouse Name: Daisy A Hodge Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1912 Registration District: West Ham Inferred County: Essex Volume Number: 4a Page Number: 559
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9 Jan 2014 11:50 |
I have just googled The Black Lion and it is still there.
"The Black Lion is the oldest pub in Epping & is said to have links with the infamous highwayman Dick Turpin. Split into two separate bars the Black Lion remains almost unchanged from it’s early years with its oak beams and two large open fireplaces."
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9 Jan 2014 11:48 |
Should have added William says he is a mariner. Eileen
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9 Jan 2014 11:47 |
Marriage 4/10/1805 Alfred Charles Stanford to Margaret Chalmers(minor) His father John Stanford, miller,her father James Chalmers Captain's clerk American Army. Eileen
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9 Jan 2014 11:43 |
..England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Sarah F Stanford Name: Sarah F Stanford Birth Date: abt 1872 Date of Registration: Jun 1948 Age at Death: 76 Registration District: Epping Inferred County: Essex Volume: 5a Page: 48 ..England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Sarah Florence Stanford Name: Sarah Florence Stanford Probate Date: 31 Jul 1948 Death Date: 18 May 1948 Death Place: Essex, England Registry: London, England
Of The Black Lion Inn, High Street, Epping Essex.
Died 3 Centre Avenue, Epping.
To Barclays Bank Limited.
Effects: £2317 2s
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9 Jan 2014 11:30 |
thank you for all your help xx
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9 Jan 2014 10:54 |
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..England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Margaret Stanford Name: Margaret Stanford Birth Date: abt 1856 Date of Registration: Sep 1920 Age at Death: 64 Registration District: Billericay Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 450
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9 Jan 2014 10:50 |
1881 England Census about Margaret Stanford Name: Margaret Stanford Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: Alf.C. Stanford Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: St Leonard County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 35 Devons Road Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Poplar Sub-registration District: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 495 Folio: 115 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Alf.C. Stanford 25 (Painter) Margaret Stanford 25 John F. Stanford 4 Alfred C. Stanford 3 James G. Stanford 1 George Hicks 20 (Boarder)
Hmmm
I wonder if Alfred remarried in 1921..
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England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Alfred C Stanford Name: Alfred C Stanford Spouse Name: Sarah F Goodwin Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1921 Registration District: West Ham Inferred County: Essex Volume Number: 4a Page Number: 511
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Alfred Charles Stanford Name: Alfred Charles Stanford Probate Date: 24 Feb 1937 Death Date: 22 Jan 1937 Death Place: Essex, England Registry: London, England
Of The Black Lion Epping Town Essex.
To Sarah Florence Stanford widow.
Effects: £423 19s 6d
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9 Jan 2014 10:38 |
The family in 1891:-
1891 census transcription details for: Sheering Street, Sheering
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 1364 Folio: 150 Page: 6 Reg. District: Epping Sub District: Harlow Parish: Sheering Enum. District: 14 Ecclesiastical District: St Marys City/Municipal Borough: Address: Sheering Street, Sheering County: Essex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STANFORD, Alfred C Head Married M 35 1856 Bage Labourer Beccles, Suffolk STANFORD, Margaret Wife Married F 35 1856 Fifeshire, Scotland STANFORD, John Thomas Son M 14 1877 Butchers Boy Bow, London STANFORD, Alfred Charles Son M 13 1878 Scholar Blackwall, London STANFORD, George James Son M 11 1880 Scholar Poplar, London STANFORD, William Son M 6 1885 Scholar Stratford, Essex STANFORD, Clement Son M 4 1887 Scholar Bow, London
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9 Jan 2014 10:36 |
1891?
Alfred C Stanford 35 Born Becles Suffolk Margaret Stanford 35 John Thomas Stanford 14 Alfred Charles Stanford 13 George James Stanford 11 William Stanford 6 Clement Stanford 4
Possible parents marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHALMERS Margaret Poplar 1c 1315
STANFORD Alfred Charles Poplar 1c 1315
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