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help harry goddard born 1887 in west ham

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patchem

patchem Report 1 Jan 2014 12:51

Terry,

You can find the births of the children from free bmd:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Search for births using Goddard and Bridges for mother's maiden name.

Free bmd does not have complete coverage, particularly for some of the war years, so Ivor is not showing there.

terry

terry Report 1 Jan 2014 11:38

hi Jude and patchem you are both hitting the nail on the head harry Goddard born 1887/8 (christened in 1887 but record state born 1888?) I cant find them in 1911 census I believe Harrys dad , Angies great granddad also called harry was in the second boer war as he is missing from the 1901 census ,it is also believed that harry angies granddad born 1888 was a soldier in one of the world wars as he was possibly gassed as his health was not good, ivor henry goddard his son now deceased recollects he died aged approx. 55 yrs old thanks again angela and terry

terry

terry Report 1 Jan 2014 11:18

hi Reggie you state you found Ivor as youngest of nine children there was actually 7 living children Joan dob 1923 Charles 1926 Dennis 1928 ray 1930 Betty 1935 but died at 2 months of age Jeffrey 1938 Ivor henry 1940 but from family history there was a couple of still born so is it possible you could forward me the information you have if these match many thanks for your help and help from others

patchem

patchem Report 1 Jan 2014 11:06

From message received (have asked them to return on here):

'we are trying to find a death cert for harry Goddard or military service record and any addresses from 1901 to 1927

we have his birth date as 1887/88 at 17 Phillips st west ham Plaistow st Matthias district municipal ward Hudson's

on 1901 census age 13 a platers boy'

(Hope my edits make sense, not confuse)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 1 Jan 2014 10:58

I can find that family in 1901 as well but not in 1911

Jude

patchem

patchem Report 1 Jan 2014 10:02

So we go back to my suggestion that the informant did not know the actual date of birth.

I am waiting for terry to return.

Marriage Colchester and death Birmingham, and possible birth West Ham.....

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 1 Jan 2014 09:56

I suspect the 1894 birth is not correct...I think might be him in 1891

Name: Harry Goddard
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Harry Goddard
Mother's Name: Ellen Goddard
Gender: Male
Where born: Plaistow, Essex, England
Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Registration District: West Ham
Sub-registration District: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1324
Folio: 138
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Goddard 28
Ellen Goddard 30
Harry Goddard 3
George W Goddard 2
Ellen Goddard 9/12

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 1 Jan 2014 09:54

ahh didn't think of that!

Has anyone found a birth that could correspond to the 1894 date?

Jude

patchem

patchem Report 1 Jan 2014 09:48

It is not the cut-off date, it is just poor for several war years.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 1 Jan 2014 09:47

Yes it's on Ancestry too..didn't realise that 1940 was the cut off date (at present ) on freebmd...

Jude

patchem

patchem Report 1 Jan 2014 09:41

Jude:
Ivor H Goddard
Mother's Maiden Surname: Bridges
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1940
Registration District: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 652

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jan 2014 09:31

Ivor's birth is NOT yet on freebmd.......it is on FMP

That is how I was able to state last night that he was born in Warwickshire

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 1 Jan 2014 09:26

You state there was a child Ivor Henry born in 1940 - on what basis do you know this?

There are eight possible children born between 1921 and 1938 all in Birmingham - and if the daughter Joan S is correct then a previously born Joan E is likely not to be their's. But none of those children are Ivor....

Jude

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jan 2014 09:24

Ivor appears to have been the last of nine children born to this couple.............

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jan 2014 09:21

Do you have the correct birth year? What is the source of your info?

The man's marriage cert will have a note of his declared age at the time.

Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
Bridges Edith E Goddard Colchester 4a 1553
Goddard Harry Bridges Colchester 4a 1553

patchem

patchem Report 1 Jan 2014 09:07

The tree on ancestry has his birth as about 1894 in Colchester (as taken from the death index).

Where did you find his birth as 1887 in West Ham?

Perhaps the informant did not actually know his age?

Thanks.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 1 Jan 2014 07:46

From a tree on Ancestry for daughter Joan S

Name: Henry Goddard
Birth Date: abt 1894
Date of Registration: Mar 1947
Age at Death: 53
Registration District: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 658

Jude

patchem

patchem Report 1 Jan 2014 00:34

Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955
Edith E Goddard
Year: 1950
Ward or Division/Constituency: Stechford
Street Address: 93 ROTHEREIELD ROAD
Residence Place: Birmingham

with Charles and Dennis

patchem

patchem Report 1 Jan 2014 00:28

Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955 about Edith E Goddard
Name: Edith E Goddard
Year: 1945
Ward or Division/Constituency: Yardley
Street Address: 220 QBHU
Residence Place: Birmingham

with her is Joan S Goddard and Henry - son?

Added;
Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955 about Edith Elizabeth Goddard
Name: Edith Elizabeth Goddard
Year: 1927
Ward or Division/Constituency: Yardley
Street Address: 220 MONICA ROAD
Residence Place: Birmingham

with Henry, so husband calling himself Henry not Harry?

patchem

patchem Report 31 Dec 2013 23:50

Is this his wife?

Births Jun 1894
Bridges Edith Elizabeth Brentford 3a 90

Edith Elizabeth Goddard
Birth Date: 16 Oct 1894
Date of Registration: Mar 1972
Age at Death: 77
Registration District: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 91

Added:
Birth and death do not fit, sorry. Will leave for now.

Edited:
this birth:
Births Dec 1894
Bridges Edith Elizabeth Colchester 4a 613

How accurate is your information as to death 1942-1948, and do you know where he was?

Thank-you