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Children of Benjamin Astley by 1st marriage

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Julia

Julia Report 30 Dec 2013 16:47

Thanks, all of you! So the daughter's name was Susan Edith...and I suspect that poor Francis didn't survive his illness.

Julia

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 29 Dec 2013 13:57

Many thanks for popping in jerseylily.

Prickles. x

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 29 Dec 2013 13:16

I've had a look but there's nothing I can do until the beginning of Jan when the Archive re-opens.

Francis Luckford Astley shows up on the Archive catalogue as a Hospital admission, it's not a register that's been transcribed so I'll have to order it to find out why he was there. With any luck the register should also say whether he was discharged or died. As he's not shown as an inmate (Workhouse section) he was probably ill - people with TB were often sent to Jersey in the hope that the milder climate would be beneficial although this was rarely the case.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Dec 2013 13:10

Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1853
ASTLEY Francis Collingbourne History Centre Mother's Maiden Name BOUVERIE

1854
ASTLEY Sullivan Collingbourne History Centre BOUVERIE (his Death 1854 also)

http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/


Devizes and Wiltshire Gazette
Publication date:Thursday 06 January 1853

Birth
At the Rectory, Pewsey, on the morning of Tuesday the 4th, Mrs B. Astley, of a son.

Chris :)

(worth a look round on google)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/advanced-search.aspx?tab=1

(and above)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 29 Dec 2013 10:48

Hi Julia

There is a lovely member by the name of "JerseyLily" who does Jersey look ups.

I have sent her a PM to ask if she might be able to take a look at your thread.

Prickles. x

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 29 Dec 2013 10:15

Maybe he emigrated.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Dec 2013 10:10

Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette
Publication date:Thursday 24 July 1851

Deaths
July 10. At the Rectory, Everleigh, Susan Edith Astley, daughter of the Rev. B.Astley, aged five months.

Chris :)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Dec 2013 10:00

I would concur with PH.....the corrected age for the child on the 1851 she posted is definitely 2 months

You have been given the likely birth/death for her...........if you wish to confirm, the cert will cost £9.25

These were the actual occupants at the time - accurately transcribed by FMP

SPANSWICK, Mary Servant Unmarried F 22 1829 Servant
Pewsey, Wiltshire VIEW
INGRAM, Ellen Servant Unmarried F 21 1830 Servant
Salisbury, Wiltshire VIEW
HUISH, James Servant Unmarried M 21 1830 Servant
Manningford, Wiltshire VIEW


Perhaps Francis died at a young age - in Jersey.

Julia

Julia Report 29 Dec 2013 09:24

Thanks, all!

I suspected that Emma Edith/Edith may have died young, but it's seems odd that Francis disappeared so completely after 1881 (assuming that he was the 'boarder' at the St Helier hospital).

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 29 Dec 2013 08:33

Given that they married in 1850 and she died in 1854, it seems to me that they had two children - Susan Edith who died a baby and Francis who is the person found in Jersey in 1881.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Dec 2013 23:50

In case you don't have this...

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Benjamin Buckler Gifford Astley Name: Benjamin Buckler Gifford Astley
Probate Date: 5 Jun 1897
Death Date: 21 Apr 1897
Death Place: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Registry: London, England

To Maria Catherine Ludford-Astley widow.

Effects: £10025 18s 3d

Resworn: £10275 8s 9d

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Dec 2013 23:07

1851 England Census
about Bay Gifford Arthur Name: Bay Gifford Arthur
[Benj Gifford Astley]
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sus Louisa Arthur
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Manningford, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Everleigh
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration District: Pewsey
Sub-registration District: Netheravon
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 71
Piece: 1844
Folio: 435
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Bay Gifford Arthur 31 .....Crossed out
Sus Louisa Arthur 19 ....Crossed out
Enna Edith Arthur 2 ....Crossed out
Servants...
Mary Bendall 52....Crossed out
Mary Spanswick 22
Ellan Inpard 21
James Haish 21

Looking at the image......i would say a "2" has been enterered in the male column for "Enna" and then realising the mistake......."2 mths" has been added in the female column.


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Dec 2013 22:33

Death

ASTLEY Benjamin B G L Cheltenham Gloucestershire 1897 Apr-May-Jun VIEW
LUDFORD-ASTLEY Benjamin Buckler G Cheltenham Gloucestershire 1897 Apr-May-Jun VIEW

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Dec 2013 22:25

Could someone post the 'other' 1851.............it doesn't show on FMP under the names given

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Dec 2013 22:23

1861 census
Person: ASKEY, Benjamin G Address: The Parsonage, Morevale Park Gates, Merevale

ASKEY, Benjamin G Head Widower M 41 1820 Incumbent Of Merevale
Manninsford, Wiltshire VIEW
ASKEY, Francis Son M 8 1853 Scholar
Pewsey, Wiltshire VIEW
SILWOOD, Ann Servant Unmarried F 28 1833 Cook
Pentridge, Dorsetshire VIEW

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Dec 2013 22:18

NO second name..................

Births Mar 1853 (>99%)
Astley Francis Pewsey 5a 168

...although, as his father assumed a further name (for whatever reason) it is reasonable to assume that the son also used it.........

And 'Lukeford' is close enough to'Ludford' to suggest a link

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Dec 2013 22:16

1871 census

Person: ASTLEY, Benjamin B G Address: The Parsonage, Merevale


ASTLEY, Benjamin B G Head M 51 1820 Wiltshire VIEW
ASTLEY, Maria C Wife F 25 1846 Sussex VIEW
ASTLEY, John B Son M 2 1869 Warwickshire VIEW
DRONFIELD, Ann Servant F 23 1848 Derbyshire VIEW
CARTE, Elizabeth Servant F 22 1849 Leicestershire VIEW
CLAMP, Elizabeth Servant F 22 1849 Warwickshire

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Dec 2013 22:13

Not seeing anything for an Emma Edith (although I do agree that's what is written on the 1851 census) I am sure you have seen this. It just seems so strange that there is not a birth for Emma Edith.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Susan Edith Astley
Name: Susan Edith Astley
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1851
Registration District: Pewsey
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 8
Page: 445



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Susan Edith Astley
Name: Susan Edith Astley
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1851
Registration District: Pewsey
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 8
Page: 263

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Dec 2013 22:13

For INFO............................

1851 census


Person: ASTLEY, Benjn G Address: Pewsey, Pewsey

BOUVERIE, Frederick P Head W M 65 1786 Rector Of Pewsey
Britford, Wiltshire, England VIEW
BOUVERIE, Harriet P Daughter Unmarried F 26 1825
VIEW
BOUVERIE, Charles P Son Unmarried M 24 1827
VIEW
BOUVERIE, Catharine S P Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834
VIEW
PERRIGEAUX, Jemima Servant W F 64 1787 Housekeeper
Rolvenden, Kent, England VIEW
JENNINGS, Elizabeth Servant Unmarried F 16 1835 House Servant
Pewsey, Wiltshire, England VIEW
ASHTON, Mary Servant Unmarried F 32 1819 House Servant
Pewsey, Wiltshire, England VIEW
ENGAM, Mary Ann Servant Unmarried F 28 1823 House Servant
Peter's Finger, Wiltshire, England VIEW
BULL, Louisa Servant Unmarried F 25 1826 House Servant
Pewsey, Wiltshire, England VIEW
ROBERTS, James Servant Unmarried M 29 1822 Footman
Durweston, Dorset, England VIEW
FRANCIS, Thomas Servant Unmarried M 26 1825 Groom
Netherhampton, Wiltshire, England VIEW
ASTLEY, Benjn G Son In Law Married M 32 1819 Curate Of Everleigh
Manningford, Wiltshire, England VIEW
ASTLEY, Susan L Daughter Married F 19 1832 Wife
Pewsey, Wiltshire, England VIEW
ASTLEY, Edith Granddaughter F
Everley, Wiltshire, England VIEW
SPANSWICK, Mary Servant Unmarried F 24 1827 House Servant
Pewsey, Wiltshire, England VIE

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Dec 2013 22:10

Who - exactly - are you looking for?

When was each of them born.....and where?