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Re: Alfred Hawkins

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Zoe

Zoe Report 28 Dec 2013 14:50

Quick question to AnnCardiff ~ The baptism you found said the mum was called Jane but on the census the mother is listed as Rosa? Dad's occupation on both is plate layer
John Hawkins
Age in 1901: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rosa Hawkins
Gender: Male
Where born: Linley, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Dinas Powis
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Zoe

Zoe Report 28 Dec 2013 13:53

I am very sorry Reggie.. I sadly forgot what I did 3.5 years ago and was unaware that the post still existed. I will endeavour to follow the rules from now on.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Dec 2013 10:10

One post per topic, please Zoe......as per site guidelines

Zoe

Zoe Report 27 Dec 2013 22:27

Fantastic, thank you.. you have both given me plenty to go on; a lot more than I had originally!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2013 21:27

ah - platelayer!!!! that's in one of the postings I've made

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Dec 2013 21:23

The connected thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1211618

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2013 21:18

?????

Name: Alfred Hawkins
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender:
Age: 7
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: St Andrews, Glamorganshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Cardiff
Sub-District: St Nicholas
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Andrews
Civil Parish: St Andrew
District/Parish/County: Glamorganshire

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Dec 2013 21:17

Zoe Report 21 Mar 2010 10:14

Hi, Thanks for all the help.. I'm sorry if i caused any arguments!!
I'm not really too sure of who he was as he is my partner's great grandfather and his grandfather died a few years ago so I can't find anymore facts out.
I do know that he went on to marry a woman named Elsie English and they had 6 children.
I really appreciate the help as you have given me a starting point.. Thanks again!

WayneTracey

Your marriage Zoe...

Marriages Dec 1918
ENGLISH Elsie Hawkins Cardiff 11a 533
Hawkins Alfred English Cardiff 11a 533

(is above still relating, from your other 'Thread'?)

Chris :)

Marriage
Groom's Forenames:Alfred
Groom's Surname:Hawkins (Fitters Helper)
Groom's Age:25
Marriage Year:1918
Marriage Month:Dec
Marriage Day:24
Event Type:Marriage
Place / Parish:Cadoxton-juxta-Barry
County:Glamorganshire
Bride's Forenames:Elsie
Bride's surname:English
Bride's Age:22
Groom's Father's Forenames:John
Groom's Father's Surname:Hawkins (Platelayer)
Bride's Father's Forenames:Charles
Bride's Father's Surname:English (Cement Packer)
Record source:Glamorgan marriages transcripts
Data provider:Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru
(Residence at time for him, 3, Churchill Terrace, Cadoxton, Barry. Her, 16, Arthur Street, Cadoxton, Barry)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2013 21:15

Name: Alfred Hawkins
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 1895
Event Place: St. Andrews Major, Glamorgan, Wales
Address: Eastbrook
Age:
Occupation: Platelayer
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Jane


actually Eastbrook is in Dinas Powis

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2013 21:14

this is near to Dinas Powys

Name: Alfred Hawkins
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 13 Sep 1895
Event Place: St Andrew's Major, Glamorganshire, Wales
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Name:
GS Film number:
Digital Folder Number: 004377095

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Dec 2013 21:02

How do you relate to this man?

Who is the man born in 1904?

The name is common enough for there to have been several serving in WW1

Zoe

Zoe Report 27 Dec 2013 20:32

Thank you for replying.. I have been researching through the information that I was given but am somewhat confused (Doesn't take much apparently!)

Could an individual recieve the Silver War Badge more than once? I found records for Alfred ~

Badge Number 162688 / 44 Pro Co RDC
Badge Number 186200 / 16th London Regiment
and the Badge Number that you uncovered above

I have also the following Regimental numbers:
30875
63028
3275/550877
47688
62960/418555

I am sorry for my ignorance but have never researched the 1st World War before.. I am assuming that the above information relates to one person, Alfred Hawkins?
What I would really like is a date of birth but it is eluding me!

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Dec 2013 19:49


UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920
Name:
A. Hawkins
Discharge Unit:
Rifle Brigade
Regiment Number:
S1049
Rank:
Rfn.
Badge Number:
113775
Unit:
Infantry (Winchester)
Piece:
3127
List Number:
M 0001-0400
Record Group:
WO
Record Class:
329

(Enlisted 4/9/14. Discharge 10/1/17 Cause, Sickness. Served Overseas, Yes)

Historical Background
The British Empire lost more than 700,000 service personnel killed in World War 1. An even greater number were discharged because of wounds or illness. In September 1916, King George V authorized the Silver War Badge (SWB) to honor all military personnel who had served at home or overseas since 4 August 1914 and who had been discharged because of wounds or illness. The SWB was a small, circular badge made of sterling silver, bearing the king’s initials, a crown, and the inscriptions ‘For King and Empire’ and ‘Services Rendered’.

The SWB was not simply an honor; it also served a practical purpose. At the time, men of military age who were not obviously in the service were sometimes accosted or insulted by civilians presenting them with white feathers — a symbol of cowardice — for shirking their patriotic duty. The badge served as an outward symbol that the wearer’s duty to country had been honorably fulfilled.

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1211618

(relating above?)

Zoe

Zoe Report 27 Dec 2013 19:11

Thank you AnnCardiff. Have ordered that

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2013 18:52

Medal card of Hawkins, Alfred Corps: Rifle Brigade Regiment No: S1049 Rank:…
Details Browse by Hierarchy Browse by Reference Preview this record Start new search Print Order and viewing options£3.36
1 file approximately 0.5 MB


Geoff's Great War Regiment A-Z List<
www.hut-six.co.uk/GreatWar/RB/RifleBrigade_H.html Cached
Hall, Alfred J: Rifle Brigade: S/24368: Private--Link: 25839: Hall, Alfred J: Rifle Brigade: 14: Serjeant [1] Rifle Brigade 14 Serjeant [2] Rifle Brigade 200013 ...

Zoe

Zoe Report 27 Dec 2013 18:33

Yes! Quite right.. Just realised my HUGE mistake!! :-0
I was told 1904 but couldn't be could it!
I'm really not as dim as I sound right now!!

Can information be gained from the medal service number?

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Dec 2013 18:28

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about Alfred Hawkins
Name: Alfred Hawkins
Regiment or Corps: Rifle Brigade
Regimental Number: S1049

Joseph

Joseph Report 27 Dec 2013 18:28

Medals from 1st world war - he would be 14 when it ended.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Dec 2013 18:25

a brother maybe?

Name: William Hawkins
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender:
Age: 1
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Dinas Powis, Glamorganshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Cardiff
Sub-District: Penarth
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Augustines
Civil Parish: Penarth
District/Parish/County: Glamorganshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Dec 2013 18:24

If he was born in 1904 he wouldn't have been old enough to fight in the first world war?