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It seems to be him, same mother but according to his birth record his father was Egbert Sheaf, seaman in merchant service.. Aaron Sheaf WAS married to Mary Ann Goodall, but somehow he has remarried Amelia Sage in 1867, 2 years earlier than Egbert Thomas Sheafs birth.. Mary Ann Sheaf is on the 1871 1881 census with all the other children, no sign of husband Aaron. no sign of Mary Ann with her children and 3 year old son Egbert in 1871 which is very odd.. Has she married Egbert Sheaf between 1867-1869? maybe she didn't have to, since she was already a Sheaf.. bizarre :-S :-S

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Egbert Thos Sheaf
Death Place: Gisborne, Victoria
Age: 79
Father's Name: Aaron John Sheaf
Mother's Name: Unknown Mary Ann
Registration Year: 1948
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 7983
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869

(looking on google, above seems to be him, unless another)

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-VIC/2010-07/1280500042

Chris :)


Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
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Mew Elizabeth Harriet I. Wight 2b 1074
Sheaf Egbert Thomas I. Wight 2b 1074


Place: St Mary, Carisbrooke Participants:
SHEAF, Egbert Thomas
MEW, Elizabeth Harriet

http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/bmd/startbmd.htm

Has come to light that Egbert Thomas Sheaf wasn't Aaron Sheafs son.. Egbert Thomas was born in Jan 1869.. Aaron Sheaf has already remarried Amelia Sage in 1867... Have the birth for Egbert Thomas who says his father was Egbert Sheaf who is listed as a seaman in the merchant service??? I cannot find Egbert Thomas (or Thomas E Sheaf) as he was sometimes known by or his mother Mary Ann Sheaf formally Goodall born 1831 on the 1871 census. I see them on the 1881 census with his mother and siblings George, Charlotte etc. But where are they in 1871 where Egbert would have been about 3... :-(

1841 for John Smith
GOODALL, Mary F 40 1801 VIEW
GOODALL, Isaac M 14 1827 VIEW
GOODALL, Mary F 10 1831 Hampshire VIEW
GOODALL, George M 7 1834 Hampshire VIEW
SMITH, John M 45 1796 Hampshire VIEW

Piece: 413

Book/Folio: 4/13

Page: 21

Registration District: Portsea Island

Civil Parish: Portsea

Municipal Borough: Portsmouth

Address: North End, Portsea, Portsmouth

County: Hampshire

Definitely better than me tho Reggie, and yes your quiet right, I should consider all possibilities. I did however think perhaps she had been married briefly but seemed to young, and then wondered if she was adopted... But once again, thanks

And Thanks Chris, I have a feeling this is the same Aaron who married Mary Ann Goodall...

there is this ???
Name: John Smith
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Charlotte Sharks Or Goodall
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 26 Jun 1842
Event Place: Saint Marys,Portsea,Hampshire,England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M06261-3
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 919748, 919749, 919750, 919751, 919752, 919753, 919754, 919755
Reference ID:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1842
Registration District: Portsea Island
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 7
Page Number: 194
Records on Page:
Name
Margaret Beck
Henry William Brown
Charlotte Goodall ******
Thomas Hollis
Ann Huit
William Lewis
John Smith
Mary Ann Wade

No record of the Goodall/Smith marriage on FMP................I haven't looked on familysearch

1871
SHEATH, Aaron Head M 37 1834 Hampshire
SHEATH, Amelia Wife F 23 1848 Hampshire
SHEATH, Emily Daughter F 1 1870 Hampshire
SHEATH, Alfred Son By Former Wife M 15 1856 Hampshire
SAGE, William Boarder M 44 1827 Surrey
SAGE, Mary Ann Boarder's Wife F 46 1825 Hampshire
SAGE, Hatty Daughter F 15 1856 Middlesex
SAGE, William Son M 12 1859 Middlesex
Piece: 1162
Folio: 22
Page: 2
Registration District: Isle of Wight
Civil Parish: Newport
Municipal Borough: Newport
Address: Pyle Street, Newport
County: Hampshire

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=478858.30

(could be item relating to Aaron on above)


http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/index.htm

(above useful, IOW)

Chris :)

Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
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Sage Amelia Alverstoke 2b 915
SHEAF Aaron Alverstoke 2b 915

I don't profess to be 'better' than anyone.............but it is important just to take your time, and consider all possibilities

I cant help it if our better at this than me.. <3 <3

Aww Reggie, am just up... :-\ Thanks for that birth details...
;-)

Mmm okay Reggie, will see if I can find them on the 1841 census under the name of Goodall first. Thanks

Please take the blinkers off....................and read the suggestion I made earlier

Day:21
Month:Aug
Year:1831
Son/Daughter:Daughter
Forename:Mary Anne
Surname:Goodall
First Parent:William
Second Parent:Charlotte

Notes:of KingstonParish:Portsea St MaryCounty:HampshireRecord source:Hampshire Baptisms Data provider:Hampshire Genealogical Society

On Alfred Horatio Sheafs birth record it lists his mother Mary Ann Sheaf "formally" Goodall residing at Rudmore Place Portsea. So shes had her son while still living with parents John and Charlotte Smith..

Just stop a moment and consider that Mary's mother was Charlotte Goodall, and that she may have married John Smith after Mary was born

Buy Mary's marriage cert.................to see whether she knew who her father was

I cant find a baptism! on the census they say she was born Portsea.

:-(

SMITH, John Head Married M 52 1799 Labourer
Portsea, Hampshire VIEW
SMITH, Charlotte Wife Married F 53 1798
Portsea, Hampshire VIEW
SHEAF, Mary Ann Daughter Married F 20 1831
Portsea, Hampshire VIEW
SHEAF, Aaron Son-In-Law Married M 21 1830 Fisherman
Portsea, Hampshire VIEW
SHEAF, Emma F Grand Daughter Unmarried F 0 (7 MOS) 1851
Portsea, Hampshire VIEW

Piece: 1657

Folio: 215

Page: 3

Registration District: Portsea Island

Civil Parish: Portsea

Municipal Borough: Portsmouth

Address: Rudmore, Portsea, Portsmouth

County: Hampshir

She is on the 1851 and 1861 census with her parents John Smith and Charlotte. Her husband a fisherman Aaron is listed as "son-in-law" and her children are listed as "grandchildren" I would have expected the grandparents to be "Goodall" but they SMITH... :-S

SMITH could be Mary's stepfather...............

have you looked for Mary's baptism?