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Elizabeth
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8 Dec 2013 13:26 |
John McCallum was a baker from Campbeltown, Argyll in the 1940's. The youngest of 5 children I believe. He was born in 1901, and appears on the Scotland 1901 census. I am not 100% this is the information for the person i am seeking though. There seems to be a bit of confusion in the birth dates. I got this information from the local library, he was definitely a baker in Campbeltown I know that for sure. Is there anyone else searching this person. Thank you.
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ErikaH
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8 Dec 2013 13:28 |
Scottish BMD records are available ONLY on Scotland's people... as is the 1911 Scottish census
Credits cost £7.00 for 30
There are NO subscriptions to the site
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brummiejan
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8 Dec 2013 13:29 |
Hi Elizabeth.
Just a suggestion - you would do better to specify what you mean by 'any info', as people might go looking for information you already have.
Is this him? But too young to appear 1901.
Name: John Calderwood McCallum Birth: 27 Sep 1903 Death: Oct 1993 - Surrey South-eastern, Surrey, England
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ErikaH
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8 Dec 2013 13:35 |
Someone else on here is looking for the same man
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1334759
...................he hasn't returned since he posted his request for help
Suggest you make contact with him by PM............(click on his name)
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alviegal
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8 Dec 2013 14:18 |
Just going by the info that Elizabeth has given, these are the censuses that fit and he appears to be the youngest of 5 children.
How do you know he has Calderwood as a middle name as how do you think you are connected to him please?
1901 census transcription details for: 1, Barracks, Argyll Street West Side, Campbeltown Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 507 Folio: 13 Page: 8 Reg. District: Campbeltown Sub District: Parish: Campbeltown Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: Campbeltown City/Municipal Borough: Address: 1, Barracks, Argyll Street West Side, Campbeltown County: Argyllshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MCCALLUM, Archd Head Married M 36 1865 Farmer Carradale, Argyll MCMILLAN, Cath Mother-In-Law Widow F 69 1832 Campbeltown, Argyll MCCALLUM, Bella Wife Married F (?) Killean, Argyll MCCALLUM, Jas Son M 8 1893 Scholar U S America MCCALLUM, Archd Son M 7 1894 Scholar U S America MCCALLUM, Mary Daughter F 4 1897 U S America MCCALLUM, Kate Daughter F 2 1899 U S America >>>MCCALLUM, John Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1901 U S America
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1901 census transcription details for: 9, Lorne Place, Glebe Street, Campbeltown Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 507 Folio: 16 Page: 5 Reg. District: Campbeltown Sub District: Parish: Campbeltown Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: Campbeltown City/Municipal Borough: Address: 9, Lorne Place, Glebe Street, Campbeltown County: Argyllshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MCCALLUM, John Head Married M 48 1853 Carter Killean G & E, Argyll MCCALLUM, Euphemia Wife Married F 38 1863 Island of Gigha G & E MCCALLUM, James Son M 9 1892 Scholar Campbeltown, Argyll MCCALLUM, Archibald Son M 8 1893 Scholar Campbeltown, Argyll MCCALLUM, Janet Daughter F 6 1895 Scholar Campbeltown, Argyll MCCALLUM, Euphemia Daughter F 4 1897 Campbeltown, Argyll >>MCCALLUM, John Son M 0 (1 MONTH) 1901 Campbeltown, Argyll
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Elizabeth
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8 Dec 2013 16:17 |
Thanks for the replies. Iooking at my notes and I have the exact same list for the McCallum family as in the second list above, we believe Calderwood was maybe his mother's maiden name.
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alviegal
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8 Dec 2013 17:21 |
This appears to be James christening, can't find any others.
father: John Mccallum mother: Euphemia Mcdonald Mccallum Name James Mccallum Gender Male Christening Date Christening Place Birth Date 19 May 1891 Birthplace Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland Death Date Name Note Race Father's Name John Mccallum Father's Birthplace Father's Age Mother's Name Euphemia Mcdonald Mccallum Mother's Birthplace Mother's Age Indexing Project (Batch) Number C01904-6 System Origin Scotland-EASy GS Film number 255120 Reference ID v 507 p 51
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JoonieCloonie
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8 Dec 2013 18:00 |
This is Euphemia in 1861 (note that her age decreased over the years)
Following Scottish naming pattern, her second son was Archibald
Name: Euphemia McDonald Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Archibald McDonald Mother's Name: Catherine McDonald Gender: Female Where born: Gigha, Argyllshire Registration number: 537 Registration District: Gigha and Cara Civil Parish: Gigha and Cara County: Argyll Address: South Ardaily
Archibald McDonald 55 Catherine McDonald 48 Mary McDonald 17 Flora McDonald 16 Catherine McDonald 10 Archibald McDonald 8 Macolm McDonald 6 Margaret McDonald 4 > Euphemia McDonald 2 Allen McDonald 45 Neil Galbraith 40 John Graham 20
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JoonieCloonie
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8 Dec 2013 18:09 |
the same family in 1871
Archibald Mcdonald 65 Catherine Mcdonald 56 Malcolm M Mcdonald 19 Euphemia Mcdonald 18 Euphemia Wilkenson 2
The younger Euphemia is a granddaughter of Archibald and Catherine
Obviously the John in the 1901 census above was not born in 1903 and a birthday in September would not match with being 1 month old in 1901 (family members who registered deaths of someone born in that era commonly had their year of birth wrong but would be more likely to have their birthday right).
Do you know who registered his death and what their relationship was, and any other information it gives about him, for instance his occupation?
If you don't have that death certificate, assuming it is your man, that is where you need to start.
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Elizabeth
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8 Dec 2013 18:32 |
Thank you, No I do not know who would register the death, I am just starting back up with this again after many months, after coming up against a brick wall.
Thank you again.
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JoonieCloonie
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8 Dec 2013 18:36 |
........ the only way to find out who registered the death in 1993 is to get the death certificate!
I believe the certificate should show the deceased's residence at birth so if it was his home address that could be checked on the electoral roll (as Reggie said in the thread he linked to above, the electoral roll has to be consulted at the library and can only be searched by address).
This seems the only way you are going to find out anything about the person who died in 1993.
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rootgatherer
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8 Dec 2013 18:37 |
Had 1 credit left for Scotlandspeople.
This appears to be John's birth.
1903 MCCALLUM JOHN CALDERWOOD M CAMPBELTOWN /ARGYLL 507/00 0201
If you spend £7 on 30 credits for Scotlandspeople, you will be able to view the birth registration which will also tell you where and when his parents married.
You can then use your remaining 23 credits to work back from his parents marriage or use the credits to find the family on the 1911 census on Scotlandspeople.
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Elizabeth
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8 Dec 2013 18:40 |
Thank you very much for that
Regards
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JoonieCloonie
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8 Dec 2013 18:41 |
if you search at scotlandspeople for births with surname McCallum given name Calderwood born in 1903 there is one match. Actually I made the given name 'john calderwood' and there is the same one match.
Narrowing the search, it was in Argyll. Narrowing it further it was in Campbelltown.
That is the person who died in 1993 in Surrey, it would seem quite sure.
Not the infant John McCallum in the 1901 census.
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JoonieCloonie
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8 Dec 2013 19:01 |
A total of 3 male McCallum female Calderwood marriages between 1855 and 2012 are shown at scotlandspeople ... you can do these searches too ... without paying to see details you can still narrow the searches sufficiently to know whether to pay for them.
Between 1880 and 1905 there was 1. It was in Argyll. It was in Campbeltown. ... It was in 1893.
Just guessing common names ... the groom was John.
Couples in Campbeltown in 1901 including a John with children born in the 1890s
John Euphemia, they're out John Grace John Agnes John Catherine
Testing back at sp, Grace it is.
John McCallum and Grace Calderwood.
1901 census
Town: Campbeltown County: Argyll Address: Millknowe
John Mccallum 35 born Campbeltown, Van Driver Grace Mccallum 29 born Campbeltown, Van Driver Wife Grace Mccallum 7 Margaret Mccallum 6 Mary Mccallum 3
That is the family of the John Calderwood McCallum who died in 1993 in Surrey, to a virtual certainty, I would say.
ah, I see rootgatherer was spending a credit to find the John Calderwood McCallum birth I found by process of elimination :-)
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rootgatherer
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8 Dec 2013 20:13 |
Just had an odd credit left so no problem using it to check for the birth.
I would still advise that Elizabeth spends some money on credits to work back from John. £7 would easily get his birth and parents marriage registrations and either the birth or death registrations for the parents. Or indeed the marriages for his grandparents.
Looking at the 1871 census, there are at least 3 possibles for John McCallum b abt.1866.
This 1891 census may be helpful but again without getting certain facts from Scotlandspeople, I wouldn't like to send you off on a wild goose chase.
1891
Name: John McCallum Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Campbeltown, Argyllshire Registration number: 507 Registration District: Campbeltown Civil Parish: Campbeltown Town: Campbeltown County: Argyll Address: Glebe Street Occupation: Van Man <<<<<<<<< ED: 15 Household Schedule Number: 143 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1891_165 Household Members: Name Age Neil Galbraith 35 Mary Galbraith 28 Catherine McNair Galbraith 6 Margaret Galbraith 4 John Galbraith 1 John McCallum 23
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JoonieCloonie
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8 Dec 2013 21:05 |
absolutely, the 1903 birth certificate is the place to start ... if this is the person wanted, which it seems to be :-)
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ErikaH
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8 Dec 2013 21:58 |
Elizabeth
Why don't you follow my advice and contact the other person researching this man?
Have you even looked at the thread to which I posted the link?
...........you specifically asked if anyone else was researching him................!!
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JoonieCloonie
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8 Dec 2013 22:32 |
the two threads posted within a week certainly are an amazing coincidence :-D
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Elizabeth
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9 Dec 2013 20:12 |
I do know Ian, and through a mix up in communications, we both posted about the same person.
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