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Moira
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1 Dec 2013 17:21 |
thank you mgnv, I have this info, Yes Gordon is John Kerr Tokongton's son
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1 Dec 2013 10:36 |
Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%) BENNETT Samuel Hall Rotherham 9c 729 ESKHOLME Mary Eliza Rotherham 9c 729 Kerr Janet Rotherham 9c 729 TORKINGTON Abner Rotherham 9c 729
1881 England Census Civil Parish: Hastings St Mary in the Castle County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address: 7 Denmark Place Registration District: Hastings Sub-registration District: St Mary In The Castle ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Piece: 1024 Folio: 32 Page Number: 58
Abner Torkington 38 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Head M Captain 2nd Tower Hamlets And Managing Director Of A Life Office Janet Torkington 36 Rotherham, Yorkshire, England Wife M John K. Torkington 8 London, Middlesex, England Son Scholar Ellen K. Torkington 5 London, Middlesex, England Daughter Henry K. Torkington [2m] London, Middlesex, England Son Margarett Kerr 75 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Mother in Law W Annuitant Ela E. Clark 29 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Servant Cook Dom
1891 England Census Transcription Street:57 MOORGATE Parish:ROTHERHAM Town:ROTHERHAM City:ROTHERHAM County:Yorkshire Yorkshire (West Riding) Ecclesiastical District:ALL SAINTS Municipal Ward:SOUTH Parliamentary Borough:ROTHERHAM Registration District:ROTHERHAM Registration Sub-District 2A Rotherham Enumeration District:6 Archive Reference:RG12 Piece Number:3845 Folio:117 Page:43
MARGARET HERR 1807 84 Shipley HEAD W Living on her own means JANET TORKINGTON 1845 46 Conisboro DAUGHTER M JOHN H TORKINGTON 1873 18 Rotherham GRANDSON S Ironmonger's Assistant ELLEN H TORKINGTON 1876 15 Doncaster GRANDDAUGHTER Scholar HENRY H TORKINGTON 1881 10 Rotherham GRANDSON Scholar LUCY ALLEN 1872 19 London SERVANT S General Servant [Conisbrough is 10km NE of Rotherham, just past midway to Doncaster]
1901 England Census Transcription Street:MARGATE ROAD Parish:HERNE BAY County:Kent Country:ENGLAND Ecclesiastical District:ST MARTIN Parliamentary Borough:ST AUGUSTINES Registration District:BLEAN Registration Sub-District: Herne Enumeration District:9 Archive Reference:RG13 Piece Number:798 Folio:41 Page:7
JANET TORKINGTON 1847 54 ROTHERSHAM HEAD M Living on own means JOHN TORKINGTON 1873 28 ISLINGTON SON S Solicitor ELLEN TORKINGTON 1876 25 ISLINGTON DAUGHTER S
1911 England Census Transcription Address:34 DOUGLAS ROAD Parish:HERNE BAY County:Kent Country:ENGLAND Registration District:BLEAN Registration District Number:59 Registration Sub-District: Herne SubDistrict Number:2 Enumeration District:8 Census Reference:RG14PN4359 RG78PN176 RD59 SD2 ED8 SN90
JANET TORKINGTON 1845 66 YORKS ROTHERHAM HEAD M Private Means ELLEN KERR TORKINGTON 1876 35 LONDON ISLINGTON DAUGHTER S Private Teacher [Marr 39 y; 4 live births; 3 still living]
Births Sep 1872 (>99%) Torkington John Kerr Islington 1b 329
Births Sep 1875 (>99%) Torkington Ellen Kerr Islington 1b 334
Births Sep 1878 (>99%) TORKINGTON James Kerr Islington 1b 424
Births Mar 1881 (>99%) TORKINGTON Henry King Islington 1b 394
1891 England Census Transcription Street:BURY STREET - 3 RUSSELL CHAMBERS Parish:BLOOMSBURY County:London Country:ENGLAND Ecclesiastical District:ST GEORGE BLOOMSBURY Parliamentary Borough:HOLBORN Registration District:ST GILES Registration Sub-District 1B St George Bloomsbury Enumeration District:10 Archive Reference:RG12 Piece Number:209 Folio:89 Page:17
ABNER TORKINGTON 1846 45 Yorks HEAD M Major school? - no occupation MARION TORKINGTON 1858 33 City, London WIFE M
Deaths Sep 1912 (>99%) Torkington Abner 69 Blean 2a 923
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1334598
Births Mar 1904 (>99%) TORKINGTON Gordon Robert Wandsworth 1d 658
Balham tube stn is abt 10min walk from Wandsworth Common - it looks like Gordon Robt is John K's son.
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Moira
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1 Dec 2013 03:47 |
Gordon Robert Married Bessie Margaret Reeves in 1928, not sure who the others are, Oliver, or Olive Maude can't find a birth yet
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ChristinaS
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30 Nov 2013 16:09 |
The electoral registers are quite confusing!
1929 - Dulwich: Dora Torkington; Gordon Robert Torkington
1929 - Camberwell: John Kerr Torkington; Dora Torkington; Oliver Torkington
1930 - Dulwich: Gordon Robert Torkington; Bessie Margaret Torkington
1930 - Camberwell: John Kerr Torkington, Emily Olive Torkington and Maud Torkington
1932 - Camberwell: Gordon Robert Torkington; Bessie Margaret Torkington; Dora Torkington; John Kerr Torkington; Olive Maud Torkington
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Kayak
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30 Nov 2013 15:29 |
Perhaps Dora was a pet name for Emily. My daughter in law's name is Denise but my son calls her Doris all the time.
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patchem
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30 Nov 2013 09:52 |
Worth getting the certificates for more information, definitely is 0
John Torkington Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1915 Age at Death: 0 Registration District: Camberwell Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 954
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Nov 2013 09:43 |
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
(above has Burial of below)
Deaths Mar 1945 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------- TORKINGTON John K 73 Hampstead 1a 565
Chris :)
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Moira
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29 Nov 2013 21:42 |
Hello MC I have checked that we have the correct Emily but now I have looked up the 2 births that Andrew found for John Torkington first born 1911 ( not on 1911 census) and then the second one born 1915 also in 1915 there is a death for a John Torkington but it looks like the one born 1915, I cannot find a death for the first one but why would they call the second one John also if the first one was still living?
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MarieCeleste
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29 Nov 2013 21:39 |
This looks like Emily in 1901 - same birthplace as "Dora"
GUYATT, Robert Head Married M 55 1846 Warehouseman Ilford, Essex GUYATT, Eliza Wife Married F 52 1849 London GUYATT, Emily Daughter Single F 21 1880 Draper's Assistant Barking, Essex GUYATT, Minnie Daughter Single F 20 1881 Milliner Barking, Essex
Piece: 1654 Folio: 68 Page: 10 Registration District: Romford Civil Parish: Barking
Address: 46, Linton Road, Barking County: Essex
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29 Nov 2013 21:34 |
Just posting the 1911 so Dora's birthplace can be checked against Emily's
TORKINGTON, John Ken Head Married M 39 1872 Solicitor London Islington TORKINGTON, Dora Wife Married8 years F 30 1881 Essex Barking TORKINGTON, Gordon Son M 7 1904 Surrey Balham TORKINGTON, Janet Daughter F 5 1906 Surrey Balham THORNTON, Millie Single F 19 1892 Servant Kent Penge
RG number: RG14 Piece: 3415 Reference: RG14PN3415 RG78PN128 RD39 SD5 ED11 SN200 Registration District: Croydon Sub District: Penge Enumeration District: 11 Parish: Penge
Address: 25 Royston Road County: Surrey
Married 8 year, just those 3 children born.
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Moira
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29 Nov 2013 21:02 |
Thank you very much for all your help everyone
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Andrew
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29 Nov 2013 20:59 |
You can trace John through the Electoral roles from 1903 right up to WW2.
He also appears in the phone book as early as 1902. A solicitor based in Central London.
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Andrew
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29 Nov 2013 20:55 |
More children after the census
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Torkington John E Guyatt Croydon 2a 639
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1915 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TORKINGTON John GUYATT Camberwell 1d 1288
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Catherine
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29 Nov 2013 20:54 |
Just wondering if he married either Polly or Emily, but left which ever one it was, and was just living with Dora by 1911 census?
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mgnv
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29 Nov 2013 20:50 |
Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%) Guyatt Emily Wandsworth 1d 806 Hudson Polly Wandsworth 1d 806 Radford William Henry Wandsworth 1d 806 Torkington John Kerr Wandsworth 1d 806
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Andrew
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29 Nov 2013 20:49 |
Here you go, PH
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guyatt Emily Wandsworth 1d 806 Hudson Polly Wandsworth 1d 806 Radford William Henry Wandsworth 1d 806 Torkington John Kerr Wandsworth 1d 806
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PricklyHolly
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29 Nov 2013 20:48 |
Ahh, i get it now!
Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%) Guyatt Emily Wandsworth 1d 806 Hudson Polly Wandsworth 1d 806 Radford William Henry Wandsworth 1d 806 Torkington John Kerr Wandsworth 1d 806
I was looking for a John Kerr marriage in Torkington!!! :-( :-D
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PricklyHolly
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29 Nov 2013 20:44 |
I'm not seeing a Kerr/Hudson/Guyatt marriage registered in 1904??
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Moira
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29 Nov 2013 20:44 |
Thank you Andrew I wonder where the Dora came from. I can at least try to find out a little about Emily
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Andrew
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29 Nov 2013 20:42 |
According to the Electoral Role, his wife was Emily.
From info on census, this should be her birth
Births Dec 1879 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guyatt Emily Romford 4a 231
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