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1861

RG number: RG09
Piece: 1727
Folio: 129
Page: 28
Reg. District: Clifton
Sub District: 1 Clifton
Parish: Clifton
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch
City/Municipal Borough: Bristol
Address: Letfield Villa, Collage Road, Clifton, Bristol
County: Gloucestershire

BAKER, Martha Head Unmarried F 47 1814 School Mistress
..., Devon
BAKER, Diana Maria Granddaughter Unmarried F 25 1836 School Master
Bristol
COX, Julia Teacher Unmarried F 22 1839 School Assistant
Easton, Devon
MOON, Sophia Teacher Unmarried F 19 1842 School Assistant
Attenborough
HOOK, Marian Teacher Unmarried F 18 1843 School Assistant
Cornwall, N K
>>>>>>>>>BETSELL, Ruth Granddaughter Unmarried F 11 1850 Scholar
Downend, Gloucestershire
LLOYD, Elizabeth Pupil Unmarried F 22 1839 Scholar
Allertwick
GROCE, Emily Pupil Unmarried F 14 1847 Scholar
Cornwall, N K
ANDREWS, Anna Pupil Unmarried F 16 1845 Scholar
Uk, ...
MAYAR, Rachel Pupil Unmarried F 18 1843 Scholar
Redwick
GREY, Margaret Pupil F 13 1848 Scholar
Baston
GREY, Jesie Pupil F 14 1847 Scholar
Racton
CHEERMAN, Mary Ann Pupil F 14 1847 Scholar
...
THORP, Maria Pupil F 14 1847 Scholar
Bath, Somerset
SNOW, Florence Pupil F 10 1851 Scholar
Stapleton, Gloucestershire
HARRIS, Hellen Pupil F 10 1851 Scholar
Bristol
PRIOR, Mary Ann Pupil Unmarried F 17 1844 Scholar
Caldecot ...
MORGAN, Rosina Pupil F 6 1855 Scholar
...
HUSHER, Emily Pupil F 12 1849 Scholar
...
PRES, Sarah Pupil F 14 1847 Scholar
Caldecot, ...
SNOW, Louisa Pupil Unmarried F 9 1852 Scholar
Gloucester ...
LEWIS, Anne Pupil F 13 1848 Scholar
Durham, Durham
DAVIS, Cather Pupil F 10 1851 Scholar
Durham, Durham
MILWARD, Ellen Pupil F 18 1843 Scholar
...
HUGHS, Agnes Pupil Unmarried F 13 1848 Scholar
Brisley, Yorkshire
LEWIS, Lucy Pupil F 10 1851 Scholar
Manchester
SMITH, Sarah Servant Married F 32 1829 Cook Domestic
Bristol
CODOGAN, Marsha Servant Unmarried F 21 1840 House Maid

Marriages Jun 1846
Baker Martha Isabella Bissett Clifton 11 381
Bissett Richard Say Armstrong Clifton 11 381


Not seeing a death for Richard but Martha remarries.


Name: Martha Isabella Bissett
[Martha Isabella Baker]
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1828
Age: 25
Father's Name: Joseph Baker
Spouse's Name: William Edward French
Spouse's Age: 34
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph French
Marriage Date: 16 Jan 1853
Marriage Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England


Perhaps the Granddaughter Ruth Martha / Martha Ruth took her stepfather's name?

Births Jun 1849 (>99%)
BISSETT Martha Ruth Clifton 11 335

For INFO

1851 census

Person: BILSET, Ruth Martha Address: House, Stoke Bishop Road, Westbury

BAKER, Joseph Head Married M 51 1800 Teacher
Bristol VIEW
BAKER, Martha Wife Married F 43 1808 Teacher Wife
Sherborne, Dorset VIEW
BILSET, Martha Daughter Married F 25 1826 Teacher Daughter
Bristol VIEW
BAKER, Donna Maria Daughter Unmarried F 19 1832 Teacher Daughter
Bristol VIEW
BAKER, John Bilset Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Teacher Son
Bristol VIEW
BILSET, Ruth Martha Grand Daughter F 2 1849 Teacher Grandauter
Downend, Gloucestershire VIEW

Hmm, Donna still alive in 1901. Still looking for the little grandchild Ruth Martha Bissett (in 1851) aged 2. She was probably the daughter of Martha Baker whose first husband in 1846 Richard Say Armstrong Bissett was a cousin. No idea what happened to him as Martha remarries William Edward French in 1853. No death as far as I can see.

1901 census


Person: BAKER, Donna M H Address: Redcliffe House, Broadway, Sandown

SHAW, Edmund R Head Widower M 70 1831 Tutor For Universities & C S A
Bath, Somersetshire VIEW
INGOLDBY, Harriet E Sister Widow F 68 1833
Bath, Somersetshire VIEW
BAKER, Donna M H Visitor Single F 70 1831
Bristol, Gloucestershire VIEW
PAYNE, Ellen M Servant Single F 21 1880 Housemaid (Domestic)
Thornton Heath, Surrey


Deaths Mar 1903 (>99%)
Baker Donna Maria H 72 I. Wight 2b 387

Have eventually found the 1861 on FMP but only after searching for Donna the daughter!
Have had 1841 for a while since finding Joseph and some of his children buried at the same church as my ancestors and living in the same area.
Thank you for all your help, I feel at last s if I might have opened a few doors. Just need some minimal certificates now and a search for Joseph at local record office! I don't think he left a will.

1841 census

Person: BAKER, Donna Address: Upper Easton, St George

BAKER, Joseph M 40 1801 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Martha F 30 1811 VIEW
BAKER, Isabella F 14 1827 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Miriam F 10 1831 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Donna F 9 1832 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, John M 7 1834 VIEW
FOOT, Fanny F 16 1825 Gloucestershire VIEW

From FMP!

1871 census


Person: BAKER, Caroline Address: Pellett's Grove St John School, Tottenham

BAKER, John Head M 36 1835 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Caroline Wife F 33 1838 Worcestershire VIEW
BAKER, Dinnas Daughter F 10 1861 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, John Son M 8 1863 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Arthur Son M 6 1865 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Joseph Son M 3 1868 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Danna Sister F 38 1833 Gloucestershire VIEW**********************NOTE
DAY, Susan Cook F 44 1827 Cambridgeshire VIEW
PEARCE, Julia Housemaid F 23 1848 Somerset VIEW
WRIGHT, E Housemaid F 29 1842 London VIEW
CHAPMAN, M Wardrobe Keeper F 40 1831 Cambridgeshire VIEW
MANN, M Wardrobe Keeper F 30 1841 Suffolk VIEW
LAMMER, John Servant M 30 1841 Lincolnshire VIEW
ANDREWS, G Scholar M 17 1854 Berkshire VIEW
BRITON, J Scholar M 13 1858 London VIEW Piece: 1340 Folio: 141 Page: 37 Registration District: Edmonton Civil Parish: Tottenham Municipal Borough:

Did you find the family on FMP in 1861?

Did you look at the image?

1861

RG number: RG09
Piece: 1729
Folio: 104
Page: 23
Reg. District: Clifton
Sub District: 2 Ashley
Parish: St James and St Paul
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St Andrews
City/Municipal Borough: Bristol
Address: Redland Road, St James And St Paul, Bristol
County: Gloucestershire

BAKER, John Head Married M 28 1833 Bristol School Master
(on original but missing from transcription)

BAKER, Caroline Head Married F 23 1838 (mis-transcribed as Head of household)
Abbots Morton, Worcestershire
BAKER, Donna Maria Hannen Daughter Unmarried F 1 1860
Bristol Clifton
ROBERTS, Mary Servant Unmarried F 27 1834
Merthyr Tydfil, Wales
VANSON, Mary Servant Unmarried F 22 1839
Worcestershire
HAMLIN, Jane Servant Unmarried F 14 1847
Bristol
GIBS, Thomas School Assistant Unmarried M 18 1843
London Kenington Guernsey
TROOD, Thomas School Assistant Unmarried M 16 1845
..., ...
ROSSER, Henry Pupil Unmarried M 17 1844
North Wick
MOON, George Pupil Unmarried M 13 1848
Baltonsborough, Somersetshire
MARTIN, Thomas Pupil Unmarried M 12 1849
Bath
WILLCOX, James Pupil Unmarried M 14 1847
..., Somerset
TREWIN, William Pupil Unmarried M 14 1847
Bideford, Devon
RICHARDS, Lewis Pupil Unmarried M 14 1847
Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire
NEW, George Pupil Unmarried M 9 1852
Bristol

Thank you for the census....could not find those on Findmypast!!
John Bissett Baker seemed to be the only living descendant of his parents Joseph Baker and Martha Bissett. His father also a schoolmaster, died just after the 1851 in Bristol. and was a possible brother to my direct ancestor William Baker for whom my lines have dried up o. Just trying to find more leads.

How did you work back to him if you don't know the details of any children he may have produced?

1881

RG number: RG11
Piece: 623
Folio: 102
Page: 31
Reg. District: Lambeth
Sub District: Brixton
Parish: Lambeth
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 21, Bankton Rd, Lambeth
County: London, Surrey

BAKER, Caroline Head Widow F 39 1842
Abbots Morton, Worcestershire
BAKER, Donna M H Daughter Single F 21 1860 Prof Of Music
Clifton, Gloucestershire
BAKER, Albert E J Son Single M 18 1863 Clerk (Merchants Office)
Clifton, Gloucestershire
BAKER, Arthur C Son Single M 15 1866 Scholar
Clifton, Gloucestershire

Only two possible 'wives' on freebmd................and logic dictates that the two Italians would have married each other

1871

RG number: RG10
Piece: 1340
Folio: 141
Page: 37
Reg. District: Edmonton
Sub District: Tottenham
Parish: Tottenham
Enum. District: 19
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Pellett's Grove St John School, Tottenham
County: Middlesex

BAKER, John Head M 36 1835 Gloucestershire - Schoolmaster born Bristol
BAKER, Caroline Wife F 33 1838 Worcestershire
BAKER, Dinnas Daughter F 10 1861 Gloucestershire
BAKER, John Son M 8 1863 Gloucestershire
BAKER, Arthur Son M 6 1865 Gloucestershire
BAKER, Joseph Son M 3 1868 Gloucestershire
BAKER, Danna Sister F 38 1833 Gloucestershire
DAY, Susan Cook F 44 1827 Cambridgeshire
PEARCE, Julia Housemaid F 23 1848 Somerset
WRIGHT, E Housemaid F 29 1842 London
CHAPMAN, M Wardrobe Keeper F 40 1831 Cambridgeshire
MANN, M Wardrobe Keeper F 30 1841 Suffolk
LAMMER, John Servant M 30 1841 Lincolnshire
ANDREWS, G Scholar M 17 1854 Berkshire
BRITON, J Scholar M 13 1858 London

Thankyou for the Will index, I don't have a current subscription to Ancestry. Too many wives to choose from on freebmd Reggie, and with no idea of family or census help I needed the Will search. Still no wiser to the third wife if his second is mentioned in the will as Caroline.

So...........................Caroline was his executor, and is described as his widow......

Therefore, the 1872 marriage is someone else with the same name..........a son, perhaps? Or a nephew?

Or something decidedly illegal was going on..........................

I wouldn't have thought there was too much doubt about who he married

Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
Baker John Bisett Holborn 1b 1020
Baker John Bissett Holborn 1b 1020
Diviani Clotilde Holborn 1b 1020
Evans Harriette Holborn 1b 1020
INRIETTI Natale Holborn 1b 1020