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I have been unable to locate John Bissett Baker born 1834 Bristol on any census after 1851. He married 3 times 1852 (Charlotte Gilchrist); 1858 (Caroline Millward); Bristol; then 1872 Holborn London (wife unknown). It appears he died in 1877 in London, Could someone help find a Will or probate for this illusive man? :-S

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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966


Name: John Bissett Baker

Probate Date:
28 May 1877

Death Date:
30 Apr 1877

Death Place:
Surrey, England

Registry:
Principal Registry

Administration of effects of John Bissett Baker late of 11 Ansley Road, Peckham Rye, Surrey, Schoolmaster, who died at 11 Ansley Road, to Caroline Baker, widow the Relict

Effects under £300

If he left a Will which went to Probate, there will be a record of it on Ancestry..............

The 1872 marriage will be on freebmd

Have you found his wives - and any children - on census records?

Which website are you using?

I wouldn't have thought there was too much doubt about who he married

Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
Baker John Bisett Holborn 1b 1020
Baker John Bissett Holborn 1b 1020
Diviani Clotilde Holborn 1b 1020
Evans Harriette Holborn 1b 1020
INRIETTI Natale Holborn 1b 1020

So...........................Caroline was his executor, and is described as his widow......

Therefore, the 1872 marriage is someone else with the same name..........a son, perhaps? Or a nephew?

Or something decidedly illegal was going on..........................

Thankyou for the Will index, I don't have a current subscription to Ancestry. Too many wives to choose from on freebmd Reggie, and with no idea of family or census help I needed the Will search. Still no wiser to the third wife if his second is mentioned in the will as Caroline.

1871

RG number: RG10
Piece: 1340
Folio: 141
Page: 37
Reg. District: Edmonton
Sub District: Tottenham
Parish: Tottenham
Enum. District: 19
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Pellett's Grove St John School, Tottenham
County: Middlesex

BAKER, John Head M 36 1835 Gloucestershire - Schoolmaster born Bristol
BAKER, Caroline Wife F 33 1838 Worcestershire
BAKER, Dinnas Daughter F 10 1861 Gloucestershire
BAKER, John Son M 8 1863 Gloucestershire
BAKER, Arthur Son M 6 1865 Gloucestershire
BAKER, Joseph Son M 3 1868 Gloucestershire
BAKER, Danna Sister F 38 1833 Gloucestershire
DAY, Susan Cook F 44 1827 Cambridgeshire
PEARCE, Julia Housemaid F 23 1848 Somerset
WRIGHT, E Housemaid F 29 1842 London
CHAPMAN, M Wardrobe Keeper F 40 1831 Cambridgeshire
MANN, M Wardrobe Keeper F 30 1841 Suffolk
LAMMER, John Servant M 30 1841 Lincolnshire
ANDREWS, G Scholar M 17 1854 Berkshire
BRITON, J Scholar M 13 1858 London

Only two possible 'wives' on freebmd................and logic dictates that the two Italians would have married each other

1881

RG number: RG11
Piece: 623
Folio: 102
Page: 31
Reg. District: Lambeth
Sub District: Brixton
Parish: Lambeth
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 21, Bankton Rd, Lambeth
County: London, Surrey

BAKER, Caroline Head Widow F 39 1842
Abbots Morton, Worcestershire
BAKER, Donna M H Daughter Single F 21 1860 Prof Of Music
Clifton, Gloucestershire
BAKER, Albert E J Son Single M 18 1863 Clerk (Merchants Office)
Clifton, Gloucestershire
BAKER, Arthur C Son Single M 15 1866 Scholar
Clifton, Gloucestershire

How did you work back to him if you don't know the details of any children he may have produced?

Thank you for the census....could not find those on Findmypast!!
John Bissett Baker seemed to be the only living descendant of his parents Joseph Baker and Martha Bissett. His father also a schoolmaster, died just after the 1851 in Bristol. and was a possible brother to my direct ancestor William Baker for whom my lines have dried up o. Just trying to find more leads.

1861

RG number: RG09
Piece: 1729
Folio: 104
Page: 23
Reg. District: Clifton
Sub District: 2 Ashley
Parish: St James and St Paul
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St Andrews
City/Municipal Borough: Bristol
Address: Redland Road, St James And St Paul, Bristol
County: Gloucestershire

BAKER, John Head Married M 28 1833 Bristol School Master
(on original but missing from transcription)

BAKER, Caroline Head Married F 23 1838 (mis-transcribed as Head of household)
Abbots Morton, Worcestershire
BAKER, Donna Maria Hannen Daughter Unmarried F 1 1860
Bristol Clifton
ROBERTS, Mary Servant Unmarried F 27 1834
Merthyr Tydfil, Wales
VANSON, Mary Servant Unmarried F 22 1839
Worcestershire
HAMLIN, Jane Servant Unmarried F 14 1847
Bristol
GIBS, Thomas School Assistant Unmarried M 18 1843
London Kenington Guernsey
TROOD, Thomas School Assistant Unmarried M 16 1845
..., ...
ROSSER, Henry Pupil Unmarried M 17 1844
North Wick
MOON, George Pupil Unmarried M 13 1848
Baltonsborough, Somersetshire
MARTIN, Thomas Pupil Unmarried M 12 1849
Bath
WILLCOX, James Pupil Unmarried M 14 1847
..., Somerset
TREWIN, William Pupil Unmarried M 14 1847
Bideford, Devon
RICHARDS, Lewis Pupil Unmarried M 14 1847
Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire
NEW, George Pupil Unmarried M 9 1852
Bristol

Did you find the family on FMP in 1861?

Did you look at the image?

From FMP!

1871 census


Person: BAKER, Caroline Address: Pellett's Grove St John School, Tottenham

BAKER, John Head M 36 1835 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Caroline Wife F 33 1838 Worcestershire VIEW
BAKER, Dinnas Daughter F 10 1861 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, John Son M 8 1863 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Arthur Son M 6 1865 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Joseph Son M 3 1868 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Danna Sister F 38 1833 Gloucestershire VIEW**********************NOTE
DAY, Susan Cook F 44 1827 Cambridgeshire VIEW
PEARCE, Julia Housemaid F 23 1848 Somerset VIEW
WRIGHT, E Housemaid F 29 1842 London VIEW
CHAPMAN, M Wardrobe Keeper F 40 1831 Cambridgeshire VIEW
MANN, M Wardrobe Keeper F 30 1841 Suffolk VIEW
LAMMER, John Servant M 30 1841 Lincolnshire VIEW
ANDREWS, G Scholar M 17 1854 Berkshire VIEW
BRITON, J Scholar M 13 1858 London VIEW Piece: 1340 Folio: 141 Page: 37 Registration District: Edmonton Civil Parish: Tottenham Municipal Borough:

1841 census

Person: BAKER, Donna Address: Upper Easton, St George

BAKER, Joseph M 40 1801 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Martha F 30 1811 VIEW
BAKER, Isabella F 14 1827 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Miriam F 10 1831 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, Donna F 9 1832 Gloucestershire VIEW
BAKER, John M 7 1834 VIEW
FOOT, Fanny F 16 1825 Gloucestershire VIEW

Have eventually found the 1861 on FMP but only after searching for Donna the daughter!
Have had 1841 for a while since finding Joseph and some of his children buried at the same church as my ancestors and living in the same area.
Thank you for all your help, I feel at last s if I might have opened a few doors. Just need some minimal certificates now and a search for Joseph at local record office! I don't think he left a will.

1901 census


Person: BAKER, Donna M H Address: Redcliffe House, Broadway, Sandown

SHAW, Edmund R Head Widower M 70 1831 Tutor For Universities & C S A
Bath, Somersetshire VIEW
INGOLDBY, Harriet E Sister Widow F 68 1833
Bath, Somersetshire VIEW
BAKER, Donna M H Visitor Single F 70 1831
Bristol, Gloucestershire VIEW
PAYNE, Ellen M Servant Single F 21 1880 Housemaid (Domestic)
Thornton Heath, Surrey


Deaths Mar 1903 (>99%)
Baker Donna Maria H 72 I. Wight 2b 387

Hmm, Donna still alive in 1901. Still looking for the little grandchild Ruth Martha Bissett (in 1851) aged 2. She was probably the daughter of Martha Baker whose first husband in 1846 Richard Say Armstrong Bissett was a cousin. No idea what happened to him as Martha remarries William Edward French in 1853. No death as far as I can see.