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28 Nov 2013 04:53 |
I agree Dea.
Elizabeth's father was listed as Jonas, also a Linen Weaver, on the marriage to Joseph Bartle.
Seems unlikely mistakes could be made on both her marriages ??
Ian
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27 Nov 2013 18:20 |
The father on that marriage was Joseph Brook, Linen weaver.
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27 Nov 2013 17:49 |
Hi safc,
I had found that one and was wondering if it was their marriage. If neither could read or write they wouldn't know what had been written down if mis-heard by person recording the marriage.
I'll check for a death of John Hanson between 1844 & 1851.
Cheers, Ian
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27 Nov 2013 15:01 |
????
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1844 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference BROOK Elizabeth HANSON John Holy Trinity, Rothwell Leeds CE109/A/329
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27 Nov 2013 14:28 |
Hi Mary,
Yes, I have a copy of that marriage to Joseph Bartle and the 1861 census but thanks for your input.
It's this elusive fellow Hanson I can't seem to find.
Thanks to you also Chris, Wortley, Upper Wortley and Holbeck are more or less side by side as areas of Leeds. I'll have a look at that family.
Ian
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Chris Ho :)
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27 Nov 2013 12:26 |
(different one below, if she fits in family anywhere!)
Baptism County West Riding YKS Place Wortley de Leeds Church St John the Evangelist RegisterNumber 2086 DateOfBirth 29 Dec 1836 BaptismDate 26 Mar 1837 Forename John Sex M FatherForename MotherForename Elizabeth FatherSurname MotherSurname BROOKSBANK Abode Upper Wortley FatherOccupation Notes Natural son, mother Spinster
Baptism County West Riding YKS Place Wortley de Leeds Church St John the Evangelist RegisterNumber 214 DateOfBirth 21 Aug 1816 BaptismDate 10 Nov 1816 Forename Elizabeth Sex F FatherForename Joshua MotherForename Frances FatherSurname BROOKSBANK MotherSurname Abode Upper Wortley FatherOccupation Clothier
1841 BROOKSBANK, Josa M 55 1786 Yorkshire (Woollen Weaver) BROOKSBANK, Frances F 55 1786 Yorkshire BROOKSBANK, Harriet F 15 1826 Yorkshire BROOKSBANK, John M 4 1837 Yorkshire Piece: 1350 Book/Folio: 2/49 Page: 16 Registration District: Leeds Civil Parish: Leeds Municipal Borough: Leeds Address: Wortley, Upper, Leeds, Wortley County: Yorkshire
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Chris :)
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27 Nov 2013 11:49 |
Marriage 18/8/1857 Joseph Bartle 44 widower of Holbeck married Elizabeth Hanson age 35 widow father Jonas Brooksbank a linen weaver Witnessed by Alice her sister no surname signed her mark + William Wilkinson.
In 1861 with Elizabeth was a Ann Brooksbank born @ 1848 he niece.
Maryb.
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27 Nov 2013 05:41 |
Hi,
Back again. Yes Gins it is confusing with all the different surnames Elizabeth used for the children.
I found what I believe to be Sarah Ann's marriage, 3rd Feb. 1867 at St Matthews, Holbeck, where she gives her father as John Brooksbank. Probably trying to save face on the record?
It looks like Elizabeth's marriage to ' ?? Hanson' will have to go on the back-burner for now.
Thanks for all your efforts,
Ian
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26 Nov 2013 15:05 |
Is it Potty?
I thought it was the one Ann posted but I may be confused...not for the first time ;-)
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26 Nov 2013 14:50 |
Sorry, Gins, this is the 1841 that Ian referred to (living at 1 Victoria St):
1841 England Census
Name:John Brooksbank
Age:1 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1840 Where born:Yorkshire, England Civil Parish:Leeds Town
Hundred:Leeds Borough County/Island:Yorkshire
Piece:1348 Book:11 Folio:15 Page Number:23 Household Members:
Elizh Brooksbank 20 John Brooksbank 1 Elizh Rigby 25
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26 Nov 2013 14:40 |
John, natural son of Elizabeth Brooksbank Name: John Brooksbank Birth Date: 29 Dec 1836 Parish: Wortley, St John the Evangelist Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1837 Father's Name: Brooksbank Mother's Name: Elizabeth Brooksbank
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26 Nov 2013 14:26 |
Hi Ian
Yes it is
1841 England Census
Name:Elizabeth Brooksbank
Age:20
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1821
Gender:Female
Where born:Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Leeds Town
Hundred:Leeds Borough
County/Island:Yorkshire
Registration District:Leeds
Sub-registration District:Leeds West
Piece:1348
Book:6
Folio:50
Page Number:19
Household Members:
George Brooksbank 20 Elizabeth Brooksbank 20 Charles Brooksbank 7 Mo
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1348; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Leeds Town; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 51; Folio: 50; Page: 19; Line: 7; GSU roll: 464291.
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26 Nov 2013 13:40 |
Hi Ann,
Thanks for your message. Is that the same census record I found for Elizabeth in 1841 HO107/1348/11 p18?
Ian
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26 Nov 2013 11:48 |
Name: Elizabeth Brooksbank Event Type: Census Event Date: 1841 Gender: Female Age: 20 Birthplace: Yorkshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Leeds Sub-District: Hunslet Parish: Leeds County: Yorkshire
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26 Nov 2013 08:00 |
Hi Choccy,
Your second post wasn't on my screen when I replied at 07.29 but that looks like Sarah Ann's baptism.
Thanks, Ian
p.s. have to leave the computer now but will be back later in the day
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26 Nov 2013 07:29 |
Hi Choccy,
That birth looks interesting, guess the father could be Joseph Bartle.
Thanks, Ian
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26 Nov 2013 07:22 |
mis-transcribed -
West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Sarah Ann Brookshank
Parish: Holbeck, St Matthew and New Wortley, St John the Baptist
Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1846
Father's Name:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Brookshank (Spinster)
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26 Nov 2013 07:16 |
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West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Thomas Hanson
Birth Date: 15 Dec 1849
Parish: Leeds, St Peter
Baptism Date: 28 Dec 1851
Father's Name: Hanson
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Hanson
Original records says Elizabeth Hanson has been a Widow for 3 years - no name given for father
The birth certificate might tell you more -
Births Dec 1849
HANSON Thomas Hunslet 23 278
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26 Nov 2013 06:30 |
Hi,
I am looking for the marriage of Elizabeth Brooksbank born c1821 Holbeck, Leeds, Yorkshire to ??? Hanson.
1841 census Elizabeth Brooksbank living Victoria Road, Leeds with (illegitimate?) son John age 1.
1851 census has Elizabeth, now Hanson, in Holbeck listed as a widow and children John W (10), Sarah Ann (8) and Thomas (1) all children with surname Brooksbank.
On 18th August 1857 Elizabeth Hanson married Joseph Bartle at St Matthew, Holbeck. It appears the marriage didn't last as they are living apart in 1861, son Thomas with his mother bearing the surname Bartle.
Any help with Elizabeth's first marriage and the births of the children would be much appreciated.
Thanks, Ian
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