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mandy
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27 Nov 2013 14:50 |
thank you for your help guys xx
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mgnv
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27 Nov 2013 03:30 |
As I posted: Cumbria Marriage indexes for the years: 1896 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference OWENS William H COWAN Urenica Barrow-in-Furness Register Office or Registrar Attended Cumbria Certificate Services C1/12/129
The import of this is that it's unlikely there's any record in a parish register - there could be if it were a non-conformist marr in, say, some methodist chapel - the chapel might have kept unofficial records of its marrs - the official record would be in the registrar's register, mixed in with the rego office marrs - as non-conformists (excl jews & quakers) were not authorized to keep official regos pre 1898. However, it's probably a rego office marr, so the only places to get those are from the local office that now holds the regos (Cumbria Certificate Services here) or the more convenient GRO: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ You can order online from the GRO, and they'll send you a paper cert - the cost is 9.25 GBP, world-wide postage included - this is usually the easiest, and usually marginally cheaper.
EDIT A lookup at http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl gets the ordering details you need for the marr.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%) Cowan Ureniea Barrow F. 8e 1088 Owens William Henry Barrow F. 8e 1088 PARK John Barrow F. 8e 1088 Rogers Elizabeth Barrow F. 8e 1088
I would just order in Wm's name - spell stuff as written - say you've got the reference when asked, as it's all given above. Since you're spending money, you should definitely click on the spectacles on the FreeBMD hit to check they've transcribed stuff correctly. When you've been at it a while, you'll learn you should always check against the image whenever you can - mistranscriptions are far from rare.
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mandy
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26 Nov 2013 23:09 |
can anyone tell me where i can obtain a copy of the marriage certificate and how much they are please? the one for william and urencia
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mandy
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26 Nov 2013 19:53 |
where can i get a copy of the marriage certificate for urenica cowan and william h owens and does anyone know how much tey are please? i can not find any references to urenica anywhere
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mandy
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26 Nov 2013 18:05 |
loads of info to digst here , think i am going to need help with this lot
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mgnv
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26 Nov 2013 10:23 |
Using http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/ Cumbria Marriage indexes for the years: 1896 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference OWENS William H COWAN Urenica Barrow-in-Furness Register Office or Registrar Attended Cumbria Certificate Services C1/12/129
Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1896 OWENS Florence Edith Barrow Cumbria Certificate Services COWAN B/71/213 1897 OWENS William Henry Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services COWIN D/77/42 1899 OWENS Walter James Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services COWIN D/78/213 1901 OWENS Thomas Henry Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services COWIN D/80/427 1903 OWENS Lily Evelyn Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services COWIN D/82/454
1911 England Census Transcription Address:STAINTON IN FURNESS LANCASHIRE Parish:URSWICK County:Lancashire Country:ENGLAND Registration District:ULVERSTON Registration District Number:481 Registration Sub-District: Dalton SubDistrict Number:4 Enumeration District:2 Census Reference:RG14PN25627 RG78PN1470 RD481 SD4 ED2 SN30
W H OWENS 1868 43 DALTON IN FURNESS HEAD M Miner - out of work MARY OWENS 1880 31 BARROW IN FURNESS WIFE WILLIAM H OWENS 1898 13 DALTON IN FURNESS SON THOMAS H OWENS 1903 8 ASHTON IN FURNESS SON LILY OWENS 1904 7 DALTON IN FURNESS DAUGHTER FLORENCE OWENS 1895 16 HAWCOAT BARROW DAUGHTER JOHN W CASCOE 1910 1 ULVERSTON IN FURNESS STEPSON [WH says widowed; 5 live births; 4 still living; Mary says widowed; 1 live births; 1 still living. This was all x-ed out as not applying to current marr]
Deaths Jun 1908 (>99%) OWENS Walter 10 Ulverston 8e 496 Cumbria Death indexes for the years: 1908 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference OWENS Walter Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services D/41/10
Births Mar 1910 (>99%) PASCOE John Ulverston 8e 701
Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%) Casson Margaret Ulverston 8e 1782 Owens William H Ulverston 8e 1782 Pascoe Mary Ulverston 8e 1782 Robertson William Ulverston 8e 1782
Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1867 OWENS John Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services JONES D/20/421 1868 OWENS Joseph Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services JONES D/23/211 1869 OWENS Samuel Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services JONES D/26/185 1871 OWENS David Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services JONES D/30/224 1872 OWENS Edward Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services JONES D/33/477 1877 OWENS Margaret Ellen Bootle Cumbria Certificate Services JONES BOOT/12/405
1871 England Census Transcription Street:DALTON Parish:DALTON Town:DALTON County:Lancashire Country:ENGLAND Enumeration District:9 Registration District:ULVERSTON Record set:1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Archive Reference:RG10 Piece Number:4243 Folio:40 Page:72
WILLIAM OWENS 1830 41 HEAD CAROLINE OWENS 1836 35 WIFE JOHN OWENS 1858 13 SON ELIAS OWENS 1861 10 SON WILLIAM H OWENS 1864 7 SON JOSEPH OWENS 1868 3 SON
North Wales Marriage indexes for the years: 1856 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference JONES Caroline OWENS William Holywell, St James Flintshire (Mold) C12/2/E457
Flint Marriages Transcription First Name:CAROLINE Last Name:JONES Country:Wales Record set:Flint Marriages Bride First:Caroline County:Flintshire Bride Last Name:Jones Year:1856 Bride Father First Name:John Bride Father Last Name:Jones Groom Father First Name:Thomas Groom Father Last Name:Owens Groom First Name:William Groom Last Name:Owens Parish:Bagillt Place:BAGILLT Bride Age:Full Day Of Marriage:21 Groom Age:Full Month Of Marriage:Jun Year Of Marriage:1856 Page:229
I don't know where Bagillt comes from - the m.cert image clearly says the parish church in the parish of Holywell.
Flint Banns Transcription First Name:CAROLINE Last Name:JONES Country:Wales Record set:Flint Banns Bride First:Caroline County:Flintshire Bride Last Name:Jones Year:1856 Groom First Name:William Groom Last Name:Owens Banns Day:25 Banns Month:May Banns Year:1856 Place:BAGILLT Bride Parish:Holywell Groom Parish:Delton Page:154
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mandy
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25 Nov 2013 20:13 |
will print this off and check it out ty guys for helping so much xxxx
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Andrew
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25 Nov 2013 19:45 |
Elizabeth in 1891. Dalton Lancs
Elizabeth Sayle 47 Widow, Washerwoman William Cowin 24 Lizzie Sayle 8 John James Sayle 3
Posible 1871 Isle of Man
William Cowin 27 >> Elizabeth Cowin 27 Ann Jane Cowin 6 William Cowin 4 Elizabeth Cowin 2 Jemima Cowin 11 Months
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MarieCeleste
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25 Nov 2013 19:38 |
I think this may be William Henry in 1881, he seems to live in an iron ore mining community:
OWENS, Caroline Head Widow F 49 1832 Holywell, Flintshire, Wales OWENS, Elles Son Single M 20 1861 Engine Driver (Mining) Dalton, Lancashire OWENS, William H Son Single M 17 1864 Engine Driver (Mining) Dalton, Lancashire OWENS, Joseph Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar Dalton, Lancashire OWENS, David Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Dalton, Lancashire OWENS, Edward Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Dalton, Lancashire
Piece: 4281 Folio: 109 Page: 78 Registration District: Ulverston Civil Parish: Dalton in Furness
Address: 37, Skelgate, Dalton In Furness County: Lancashire
Not very reliable with birth years, is he?
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GlitterBaby
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25 Nov 2013 19:36 |
The first wife has died if the second marriage in 1910 is correct to Mary Pascoe
1911 Class: RG14; Piece: 25627
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GlitterBaby
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25 Nov 2013 19:34 |
What research have you done to arrive at birth year of 1859 for William
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MarieCeleste
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25 Nov 2013 19:32 |
Mandy, it looks like 1869 on the 1901 census, do you know where 1859 came from?
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Andrew
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25 Nov 2013 19:31 |
Possible 1881?
Isle of Man
James Sayle 33 Elizabeth Sayle 36 William Cawe 13 Robert H. Cawe 9 Emily Cawe 8 Urenia Cawe 5
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patchem
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25 Nov 2013 19:26 |
Marriages Mar 1896 Cowan Ureniea Barrow F. 8e 1088 Owens William Henry Barrow F. 8e 1088
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mandy
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25 Nov 2013 19:26 |
william henry owens dob is 1859 if that helps
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Andrew
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25 Nov 2013 19:24 |
The marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cowan Ureniea Barrow F. 8e 1088 Scan available - click to view Owens William Henry Barrow F. 8e 1088
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MarieCeleste
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25 Nov 2013 19:24 |
Full details of 1901:
OWEN, William H Head Married M 32 1869 Iron Ore Miner Dalton in F, Lancashire OWEN, Urenica Wife Married F 23 1878 Isle of Man OWEN, Florence E Daughter F 5 1896 Barrow in F, Lancashire OWEN, William H Son M 3 1898 Dalton in F, Lancashire OWEN, Walter J Son M 2 1899 Dalton in F, Lancashire
Piece: 5338 Folio: 30 Page: 52 Registration District: Ulverston Civil Parish: Dalton in Furness
Address: 41, King Street, Dalton In Furness County: Lancashire
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patchem
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25 Nov 2013 19:21 |
Florence? Births Mar 1896 Owens Florence Edith Barrow F. 8e 803
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Andrew
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25 Nov 2013 19:20 |
1901
William H Owen 32 Urenica Owen 23 Born Isle of Man Florence E Owen 5 William H Owen 3 Wlater J Owen 2
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MarieCeleste
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25 Nov 2013 19:17 |
There was obviously problems with the mother's name on the baptism transcription ......
Florence Edith Owens, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Florence Edith Owens Gender: Female Christening Date: 16 Nov 1897 Christening Place: Dalton-in-Furness, Lancashire, England Father's Name: William Henry Owens
Mother's Name: ...renisa ????
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03459-8 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1657404 Reference ID: item 7
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN6M-452 : accessed 25 Nov 2013), Florence Edith Owens, 16 Nov 1897.
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