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22 Nov 2013 19:41 |
Help required please for information on John Millen born about 1825 Tynemouth Northumberland.He was a seaman, living for a time at Berwick on Tweed I cannot find any trace of him or his family on 1881 census.Also if possible information on his Grandparents James Milen born Aberdeen and Catherine Whigham born near Hexam I belive ,birth dates are unknown. Many thanks
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MarieCeleste
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22 Nov 2013 19:47 |
Hello Newdawn, who might he have been with (assuming he was still alive 1881)?
Have you found him on later census? Did he marry, and if so who was his wife - do you know if she would have been alive in 1881? If she was, have you found her?
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GlitterBaby
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22 Nov 2013 19:51 |
1891 ??
Class: RG12; Piece: 4215; Folio: 124; Page: 16; GSU Roll: 6099325.
Is his wife Agnes ?
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GlitterBaby
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22 Nov 2013 19:54 |
1881 as Miller at 20 Conyers Road
Class: RG11; Piece: 5068; Folio: 86; Page: 32; GSU roll: 1342223.
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alviegal
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22 Nov 2013 19:55 |
For ref.
1891 census transcription details for: 18, Conyers Road, Byker, Newcastle Upon Tyne Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 4215 Folio: 124 Page: 16 Reg. District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Byker Parish: Byker Enum. District: 23 Ecclesiastical District: St Silas City/Municipal Borough: Newcastle upon Tyne Address: 18, Conyers Road, Byker, Newcastle Upon Tyne County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MILLEN, John Head Married M 65 1826 Retired Mariner Berwick on Tweed MILLEN, Agnes Wife Married F 56 1835 Berwick on Tweed MILLEN, John F Son Single M 21 1870 Assistant Baker Berwick on Tweed MILLEN, Robert F Son Single M 19 1872 Assistant Grocer Berwick on Tweed MILLEN, Nicholas S Son Single M 16 1875 Apprentice Baker Newcastle upon Tyne PLACE, Isabel Granddaughter Single F 16 1875 Newcastle upon Tyne
and as GB has found.
1881 census transcription details for: 20, Conyers Road, Byker Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 5068 Folio: 86 Page: 32 Reg. District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Byker Parish: Byker Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 20, Conyers Road, Byker County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MILLER, John Head Married M 54 1827 Wharfman Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland MILLER, Agnes Wife Married F 46 1835 Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland MILLER, Annie Ferguson Daughter Single F 20 1861 Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland MILLER, Peter Son Single M 15 1866 Clerk Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland MILLER, Robt Ferguson Son Single M 9 1872 Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland MILLER, Nicholas Simon Son Single M 8 1873 Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland PLACE, Isabel Grand Daughter Single F 6 1875 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland MILLER, Jno Ferguson Son Single M 11 1870 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland
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MarieCeleste
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22 Nov 2013 20:05 |
You're asking about his grandparents - who were his parents, please?
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GlitterBaby
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22 Nov 2013 20:21 |
Do we presume his wife was a Ferguson
When did they marry?
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alviegal
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22 Nov 2013 20:31 |
Robertus Ferguson Millen
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 1 September 1873 St. Dominic, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England residence: 1873 Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England father: Joanni Millen mother: Agnes Ferguson
and other siblings?
Agnes Jamison Millen
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 22 April 1855 Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England residence: Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England father: John Millen mother: Agnes
Ann Ferguson Millen
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 11 November 1860 Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England residence: Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England father: John Millen mother: Agnes
Peter Millen
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 17 September 1865 Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England residence: Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England father: John Millen mother: Agnes
Nicholas Swan Millen
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 10 June 1874 Elswick, Northumberland, England residence: Elswick, Northumberland, England father: John Millen mother: Agnes
Elizabeth Stevenson Millen
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 12 July 1857 Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England father: John Millen mother: Agnes
Thomasina Stevenson Ferguson Millen
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 20 September 1863 Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England father: John Millen mother: Agnes
Margaret Jamison Millen
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 24 November 1867 Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England father: John Millen mother: Agnes
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mayleen
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22 Nov 2013 20:32 |
Thank you for your very quick replies I have him on some census but no wonder I could not find on 1881 census!! It is the right family .He married Agnes Ferguson from Berwick John Millen's parents are John Millen born about 1798 Long Benton and Jane Gardiner, they were married 1823 Tynemouth Northumberland.
Many thanks once again.
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alviegal
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22 Nov 2013 20:48 |
So John's parents.
1861 census transcription details for: Wellington Street, Tynemouth Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 3840 Folio: 47 Page: 20 Reg. District: Tynemouth Sub District: 3 Tynemouth Parish: Tynemouth Enum. District: 2 Ecclesiastical District: Tynemouth City/Municipal Borough: Tynemouth Address: Wellington Street, Tynemouth County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MILLEN, John Head Married M 62 1799 Carman Tynemouth, Northumberland MILLEN, Jane Wife Married F 60 1801 Carman Wife Tynemouth, Northumberland
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23 Nov 2013 06:33 |
One set of grandparents?
Jane Gardiner Gender: Female Birth Date: 14 May 1802 Christening Date: 20 Jun 1802 Christening Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Age at Christening: 0 Father's Name: Thomas Gardiner Mother's Name: Jane Maternal Grandfather's Name: John Proctor
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23 Nov 2013 06:56 |
The occupation for John on the 1861 census posted by Alviegal is actually seaman, not carman. He is absent from the family 1851/41, but Jane is recorded as Seaman's wife.
However, something isn't adding up son John's age is wrong, although he is a seaman in 1851:
Jane Millan Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802 Relation: Wife Gender: F (Female) Where born: Northd, North Shields Civil Parish: Tynemouth Ecclesiastical parish: Tynemouth Town: North Shields County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration District: Tynemouth Sub-registration District: Tynemouth ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 406 Piece: 2410 Folio: 79 Page Number: 77 Household Members: Name Age Jane Millan 49 James Millan 21 (wharfman) John Millan 17 (seaman) Thomas Millan 15 (shoemaker) Ann Millan 13
The ages are consistent in 1841. Jane is a widow by 1871 living with son Thomas (unmarried shoemaker). BUT John's age is way out? It links through to this christening:
John Millen Gender: Male Christening Date: 19 Feb 1834 Christening Place: Tynemouth, Northumberland, England Father's Name: John Millen Mother's Name: Jane
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ErikaH
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29 Dec 2013 22:21 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1335545
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