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Please could i ask for assistance in looking for a John Ewing. I do not know his wife but he had a daughter Elizabeth born c1826. Possibly originated in Chatham, Kent..

Thanks

is this elizabeths marraige ?
Name: John Bellard
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Ewing
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 06 Mar 1843
Event Place: St. Peter'S, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: John Bellard
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: John Ewing
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01492-2
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1656507
Reference ID: it 6 p 205 no 410

Yes i have that and the cert.... hence looking for father in 1841 census

a possibilty ????
Name: John Ewing
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Catherine Dowker
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 01 Mar 1824
Event Place: St. Anne'S, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01499-5
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1656151
Reference ID: 377

edit : maybe not that John is a sailor inn 1841

1861 Census
8 Records found



Piece: RG9/2735 Place: West Derby -Lancashire Enumeration District: 48e
Civil Parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 142 Page: 35 Schedule: 140
Address: Etna St

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BELLARD John Head M M 38 Rope Maker Lancashire - West Derby
BELLARD Elizabeth Wife M F 36 Lancashire - West Derby
BELLARD Ann Dau - F 17 General Servant Lancashire - West Derby
BELLARD Mary Dau - F 11 Lancashire - West Derby
BELLARD John Son - M 9 Lancashire - West Derby
BELLARD William Son - M 7 Lancashire - West Derby
BELLARD Elizabeth Dau - F 5 Lancashire - West Derby
BELLARD Thomas Son - M 2 Lancashire - West Derby

Thank you safc i have the children recorded.

Just to help with a search,


Name: Mary Ann Ewing
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 19 May 1844
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Spouse's Name: Thomas Carr
Father's Name: John Ewing >>> Baker
Spouse Father's Name: Isaac Carr
Reference Number: 283 PET/3/31


Witnesses, Joseph McElveen and Mary Ann Johnson

1851 England Census about Mary Ann Carr
Name: Mary Ann Carr
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Carr
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-registration District: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 1w
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 20
Piece: 2183
Folio: 171
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Carr 29
Mary Ann Carr 31
Mary Ann Carr 8
Jane Ewin 27 >>> born Ireland, visitor. States she is deaf & dumb

Ummm, maybe something else to look into,


Baptism: 13 Jul 1825 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ellen Ewings - [Child] of John Ewings & Jane
Abode: Atherton Street
Occupation: Baker
Baptised by: P. Bulmer Curate
Register: Baptisms 1825, Page 100, Entry 794
Source: LDS Film 1656419

Baptism: 26 May 1828 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Richard Ewings - [Child] of John Ewings & Jane
Abode: Ormond St
Occupation: Baker
Baptised by: J. Pulford Curate
Register: Baptisms 1827 - 1828, Page 291, Entry 2326
Source: LDS Film 1656419

and familysearch has other baptisms to the couple

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNHZ-R5J
Matilda Ellen Ewing 1831 (so maybe Ellen had died?)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVYG-P5Z
John Ewings 1834

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN9D-9NQ
(Richard's marriage 1850) (in 1851 he is Ewin)

(Mark just to note that you may have all kinds of information but what is in your head doesn't help other people to do searches so that is why it is posted here :-) )

The question is whether the parents were living in 1841, so at least we know they were living in 1834.

a possible death for John

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JHBK-S4F

Name: John Ewing
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 15 Jul 1849
Burial Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Age: 65
> Birth Date: 1784
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B05345-5

oops and another possible and maybe more likely

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JZMX-791

Name: John Ewing
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 26 Feb 1842
Burial Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Age: 46
> Birth Date: 1796
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B03604-9

and this looks like it could be the death of an infant son in 1841

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JCPJ-B7Q

Name: Thomas James Ewing
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 05 Sep 1841
Burial Place: Liverpool, Lancaster, England
Death Date: 01 Sep 1841
Age: 0
Birth Date: 1841
Father's Name: John Ewing
Mother's Name: J. Ewing
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B03072-3

edit - likely the 1796 John and this is likely Jane's death:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NG44-1PY

Name: Jane Ewing
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 10 Jun 1838
Burial Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Death Date: 06 Jun 1838
Age: 39
> Birth Date: 1799
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B01140-5

so before 1841 ...

Er, except that would mean the Thomas born in 1841 would not be hers !

are John & Jane really another couple anyway since there are not baptisms for the actually known children, Mary Ann and Elizabeth?

I keep coming back to this, John Snr is listed as not born in County and is a pensioner.


Name: Richard Harwing
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-registration District: Howard Street
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 557
Book: 4
Folio: 34
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
John Harwing 40
Mary Ann Harwing 15
Richard Harwing 12
Matilda Harwing 9
John Harwing 5
William Harwing 3
Elizabeth Harwing 1


Richard, Matilda and John would tie in with the correct ages, Mary Ann would be 5 years younger than in 1851 however the 1841 census did round up within 5 years for older family members.

Name: William Ewings
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Nephew
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-registration District: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 1y
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 19
Piece: 2176
Folio: 766
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph McElveen 65 born Ireland
Anne McElveen 63 born Ireland
William Ewings 15



Marriage: 28 Jul 1850 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Richard Ewings - Full, Grocer, Bachelor, Burlington St << the McElveens lived there in 1841 & 1851
Mary Anderson - (X), Minor, Spinster, Burlington St
Groom's Father: John Ewings, Labourer
Bride's Father: John Anderson, Gardener
Witness: Joseph McElveen, (X); Ann McElveen, (X) <<<< same as the above 1851 census.
Married by Banns by: Tho. Halton M. A. Curate
Register: Marriages 1850, Page 242, Entry 484
Source: LDS Film 1656510

Johns baptism confirming his fathers occupation,


Baptism: 15 Oct 1834 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Ewings - [Child] of John Ewings & Jane
Abode: Gladstone Street
Occupation: Baker
Baptised by: William Tyrer Off. Minister
Register: Baptisms 1834, Page 309, Entry 2470
Source: LDS Film 2045907

I'm pretty sure either Mary Ann or Elizabeth married from Collingwood street, I'll check in a minute..... but this death ties in,


Burial: 15 Jul 1849 St John, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Ewing -
Age: 65 yrs
Abode: Collingwood St <<<<<<<!!!!!!
Buried by: R. W. Wolseley, Curate
Register: Burials 1849 - 1852, Page 389, Entry 3112
Source: LDS Film 93826

Edit, Mary Ann's address given on her marriage was Collingwood Street!!! I think we can safely say this is Elizabeth's fathers death.

Just noticed that a witness to Mary Ann's marriage was Joseph McElveen!