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Unknown Report 12 Nov 2013 08:40

I would like to find information on my great grandfather, all I know from my granddad who is also called by the same name is that he thinks his mum and dad died in the 1960s,they lived in London, but I don't know where about. My gt granddad was called albert George carpenter.My granddad had a step sister and a sister, one of them was called amy His mum's maiden name was davis and she was married twice, I think my gr grandmothers name was maude.I don't know where to begin this search without much information. I would really appreciate any help sally :-S

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Nov 2013 08:56

You start by getting factual info about your grandfather.

When and where was he born?

Look for the registration on freebmd...................if he was born after 1911 his mother's maiden name will be on the index.

That MAY enable you to find the marriage of his parents..............and you would then need to buy a copy of the cert to find out how old they were, and the names of their fathers

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Nov 2013 09:01

As you refer to your grandfather in the present tense.........this is obviously his birth

Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Carpenter Albert G Davis Wandsworth 1d 992

His parents?

Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)
Carpenter Albert G Willard Wandsworth 1d 1053
Willard Ada M Carpenter Wandsworth 1d 1053

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Nov 2013 09:08

Mother's first marriage

Marriages Sep 1914 (>99%)
Davis Ada M Willard Wandsworth 1d 1169
WILLARD John W Davis Wandsworth 1d 1169

Child of the marriage - your grandfather's half-sister

Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
WILLARD Amy M Davis Wandsworth 1d 1324

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Nov 2013 09:10

As you knew the MMN, you could actually have found all the above info yourself, but I thought I'd give you a kick-start................

Put the following in your favourites - you'll find it invaluiable

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Nov 2013 09:12

Suggestion ONLY..........maiden name will be on the cert

Death

Name: CARPENTER, Ada Maud
Registration district: Wandsworth
County: London
Year of registration: 1976
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of Birth:10 July 1893
Volume no: 15
Page no: 1337

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Nov 2013 09:14

1911 census


Person: DAVIS, Ada Maude Address: 59 Chatham Road S W

DAVIS, Stephen George Bruce Head Married M 40 1871 General Labourer Compton Berks VIEW
DAVIS, Ada Wife Married19 years F 40 1871 Blouse Maker Islington Middlesex VIEW
DAVIS, Ada Maude Daughter Single F 18 1893 Button Hole Machinist Islington Middlesex VIEW
DAVIS, Stephen Frank Son Single M 16 1895 Errand Boy Islington Middlesex VIEW
DAVIS, Harry James Son M 14 1897 School Walthamstow Essex

3 children born in marriage

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2013 18:09

also from freebmd ................ this is THE site to go for information on births etc from July 1837 to ca1960

www.freebmd.org.uk/


I wonder if this is John Willard's death


Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%)
Willard John W 22 Wandsworth 1d 1068


if so he died, or was killed in WW1, around the same time that Amy was born :-(

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Nov 2013 18:26

from ancestry ............


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Walter Willard

Name: John Walter Willard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Age: 22
Spouse Name: Ada Maud Davis
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Aug 1914
Parish: Earlsfield St Andrew
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: John Henry Willard
Spouse Father Name: George Davis
Register Type: Parish Register

from image ..................

John Walter
Bachelor
Occupation:- Carman
Address:- 363 Earlsfield (???spelling) Road
Father occupation:- Carman

Ada Maud
Spinster
Occupation:- Machinist
Address- 363 Earlsfield (??? sp) Road
Father occupation:- Labourer

Witnesses:- E.M. Lattimon (??sp) and J Oh (?? John???) Willard



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about John Walter Willard

Name: John Walter Willard
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Feb 1893
Father's Name: John Henry Willard
Mother's Name: Maria Willard
Parish or Poor Law Union: Earlsfield St Andrew
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address:- 7 Thomsett Road
Father occupation:- Labourer

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Nov 2013 09:06

Have sent PM's advising Sally that she needs to return................

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Nov 2013 10:50

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: WILLARD, John W
Address: 1 Bell Lane Wandsworth S W

WILLARD, John Head Married M 43 1868 Brewers Drayman Southwark VIEW
WILLARD, Marie Wife Married20 years F 42 1869 Battersea VIEW
WILLARD, John W Son Single M 18 1893 Laundry Carman Wandsworth VIEW
WILLARD, Richard Son Single M 16 1895 Hairdresser Wandsworth VIEW
WILLARD, William Son M 11 1900 School Wandsworth VIEW
WILLARD, Sydney Son M 9 1902 Wandsworth VIEW
WILLARD, Florence Daughter F 4 1907 Wandsworth VIEW
WILLARD, Dorothy Daughter F 2 1909 Wandsworth VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 2397
Reference: RG14PN2397 RG78PN80 RD26 SD7 ED6 SN237
Registration District: Wandsworth
Sub District: Southfields
Enumeration District: 6
Parish: Wandsworth
Address: 1 Bell Lane Wandsworth S W
County: London
(7 children born and living)

Another daughter...


..England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Amy J Willard Name: Amy J Willard
Mother's Maiden Name: Rosser
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1912
Registration District: Wandsworth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1376


1901 England Census
about John H Willard Name: John H Willard
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Willard
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark, London, England

Civil Parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Faith
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Wandsworth
Sub-registration District: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 101
Piece: 483
Folio: 184
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
John H Willard 33 (Timber Labourer)
Maria Willard 32
Richard Willard 6
William Willard 2


1891 England Census
about John H Willard Name: John H Willard
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Willard
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark, London, England

Civil Parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Wandsworth
Sub-registration District: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 449
Folio: 18
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
John H Willard 24 (Bricklayers Labourer)
Maria Willard 22


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Henry Willard (Potman) Bachelor...7 Thomsett Road, Earlsfield.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Maria Rosser (Spinster) 14 Lyddon Road, Earlsfield.
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Aug 1890
Parish: Earlsfield St Andrew
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Walter James Willard (Shipwright Engineer)
Spouse Father Name: John Stephens Rosser (Auctionman) Deceased
(Middle name "Shepherd" not "Stephens" on the image)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Henry B Rosser and W J Willard

I'm not seeing a baptism for Maria........but it seems she was baptised Maria Matilda Rosser.

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about John Henry Willard Name: John Henry Willard
Probate Date: 20 Mar 1936
Death Date: 20 Feb 1936
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London, England

Of 1 Bell-Lane The Plane, Wandsworth, Surrey.

To Maria Matilda Willard widow.

Effects: £117 12s 9d

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Nov 2013 11:45

1881 England Census
about Maria Rosser Name: Maria Rosser
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Mother: Phoebe Rosser
Gender: Female
Where born: Battersea, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 81 Blondel Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Nurse Girl (Dos)

Registration District: Wandsworth
Sub-registration District: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 648
Folio: 100
Page Number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Phoebe Rosser 54 (Nurse) Widow
Alfred W. Rosser 28
Rosalind Rosser 16
Maria Rosser 13


1871 England Census
about Maria Rosser Name: Maria Rosser
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Phoebe Rosser
Gender: Female
Where born: Battersea, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Battersea
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration District: Wandsworth
Sub-registration District: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Household Schedule Number: 29
Piece: 705
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Phoebe Rosser 42 (Widow) Launderess
Elizabeth Rosser 15
Henry Rosser 13
Alfred W Rosser
John Rosser 10
Rosaline B Rosser 6
Maria Rosser 4
Frances M Rosser 1


1861 England Census
about Phebe Rosser Name: Phebe Rosser
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Julius Rosser
Gender: Female
Where born: Bloomsbury, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Battersea St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Wandsworth
Sub-registration District: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 100
Piece: 370
Folio: 53
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Julius Rosser 46 (Accountant)....No idea why it says Julius!
Phebe Rosser 35
Alice Rosser 10
Alfred W Rosser 8
Elizabeth Rosser 5
Henry B Rosser 3
Emily M Rosser 11 Months


..London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Phoebe Perkins (Spinster) 4 Providence Terrace, Earls Court, Kensington
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: John Stephard Rosser (Mercantile Clerk) 75 Old Broad Street
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Jul 1849
Parish: St Stephen Coleman Street
Borough: City of London
Father Name: William Perkins (Surveyor)
Spouse Father Name: John Rosser (School Master)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Daniel Richard Harke? and Sarah Ham?



..London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Phoebe Perkins Name: Phoebe Perkins
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Jul 1827
Father's Name: William Perkins
Mother's Name: Phoebe Perkins
Parish or Poor Law Union: Queen Square St George the Martyr
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Nov 2013 13:57

This appears to be John Shephard Rosser in the 1851 census......mistranscribed as "Roper"

Phoebe had been mistranscribed as "Rebeca"


..1851 England Census
about John S Roper Name: John S Roper
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rebeca Roper
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Walingford, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
Town: Brompton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration District: Kensington
Sub-registration District: Brompton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 79
Piece: 1469
Folio: 101
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
John S Roper 35 (Stock and Share Bookers Clerk)
Rebeca Roper 24
Emily M P Roper 1
Alice Roper 4 Mo

I looked up the birth for Emily M P Roper and found this....

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Emily Martha Phoebe Rosser Name: Emily Martha Phoebe Rosser
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1849
Registration District: Shoreditch
Inferred County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 444



..London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Emily Martha Phoebe Rosser (Spinster) Housekeeper
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Age: 36
Spouse Name: Charles Bainbridge (Bachelor) Watchmaker
Spouse Age: 45
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Aug 1887
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: John Shepherd Rosser (Auctioneer Knight) Deceased
Spouse Father Name: Charles Bainbridge (Servant to Trinitiy College Cambridge)... Deceased
Register Type: Parish Register


There is an Emily M on the 1861 census age 11 months.........I'm wondering if that should be the above Emily and her age should read 11 years!





PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Nov 2013 16:23

Fortunately there is a baptism for John Henry Willard..

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about John Henry Willard Name: John Henry Willard
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Sep 1870
Father's Name: Walter James Willard (Fitter)
Mother's Name: Jane Mary Willard
Parish or Poor Law Union: Notting Hill St Clement
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

On the same page is brother Thomas William


..1871 England Census
about Walter J Willard Name: Walter J Willard
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane M Willard
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Kensington
Sub-registration District: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 31a
Household Schedule Number: 518
Piece: 42
Folio: 47
Page Number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Walter J Willard 29 (Machine Fitter at Factory)
Jane M Willard 24 Chelsea Middlesex
John H Willard 4
Thomas W Willard 1


Walter is working away from the family in 1881.........i am struggling to find wife Jane and sons John and Thomas at the moment but will post it if i find it.





..1881 England Census
about Walter J. Willard Name: Walter J. Willard
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relationship to Head: Brother (Head) >>>>>>Boarder and not Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 17 Jervis Rd
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Engine Fitter

Registration District: Fulham
Sub-registration District: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 24b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 71
Folio: 30
Page Number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Walter J. Willard 39 (Engine Fitter)


..London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Walter James Willard (Bachelor) Fitter and Corker at Gas Factory
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Jane Mary Banister (Spinster)
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 May 1864
Parish: South Lambeth St Barnabas
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Richard Willard (Millwright)
Spouse Father Name: Henry Banister (Stonemason)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Thomas and Eliza Flintoff

This is probably the witnesses...

Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%)
Flintoff Thomas Lambeth 1d 429
Willard Eliza Lambeth 1d 429



..England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Walter James Willard Name: Walter James Willard
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 18 Jul 1841
Christening Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Father's Name: Richard Willard
Mother's Name: Elizabeth


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Eliza Ann Willard Name: Eliza Ann Willard
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 16 Dec 1838
Christening Date: 13 Jan 1839
Christening Place: Broadwater by Worthing, Sussex, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Richard Willard
Mother's Name: Elizabeth

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Nov 2013 09:47

Going back to the 1911 census for the Davis family...

Stephen is actually.........Stephen George "Druce" Davis.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Stephen George D Davis Name: Stephen George D Davis
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1871
Registration District: Wantage
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 336

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Stephen George Druce Davis (Letter Carrier) Bachelor...56 Duncan Terrace
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Ada Dixon (Spinster) 179 Balls Pond Road.
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Jun 1892
Parish: Mildmay Grove St Jude
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Stephen Davis (Carrier)
Spouse Father Name: James Dixon (Meter Maker)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: James and Ellen Tison?


1871 England Census
about Stephen G D Davis Name: Stephen G D Davis
Age: 2 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Stephen Davis
Mother's Name: Mary J Davis
Gender: Male
Where born: Compton, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Compton
Town: Compton
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Registration District: Wantage
Sub-registration District: Ilsley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household Schedule Number: 48
Piece: 1269
Folio: 63
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Davis 30 (Carrier) Compton Berkshire
Mary J Davis 20
Rhoda E Davis 9
Gertrude R Davis 5
Stephen G D Davis 2 Months


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Stephen Davis Name: Stephen Davis
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 3 Jun 1838
Christening Place: Compton, Berkshire, England
Father's Name: William Davis
Mother's Name: Sarah


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Stephen Davis Name: Stephen Davis
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1880
Age at Death: 42
Registration District: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 320



British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Stephen George Davis Name: Stephen George Davis
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Age at Enlistment: 44
Residence: 51 Chatham Rd, Northcote Rd, Clapham Junc, S W
Occ: Labourer
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 114700
Regiment Name: Royal Engineers
Number of images: 7
Spouse: Ada Davis (Of the above address).....Nee Dixon (Spinster) married 11/06/1892 Islington


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Stephen G D Davis Name: Stephen G D Davis
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Mar 1930
Age at Death: 59
Registration District: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 382

Unknown

Unknown Report 23 Nov 2013 10:28

Could you look up any information you can find on albert george carpenter, i think he was born 1895 not sure, in wandsworth, london

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Nov 2013 10:33

Before asking for more research to be done for you, don't you think it would be polite to acknowledge all the info found for you?

A lot of time and effort have been put in.............................. the least you can do is read it and say 'thank you'.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Nov 2013 10:41

Ummmmm!

:-(

Unknown

Unknown Report 23 Nov 2013 10:43

I am sorry, i do appreciate the time and effort you put into searching for me, thank you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Nov 2013 11:40

Why have you 'marked as answered'?

You asked for more info................

Look for Albert's birth on freebmd.....................don't guess - get facts.

You really ought to buy a copy of his marriage cert................that would tell you his father's name (if he knew it)