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Natalie
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10 Nov 2013 22:15 |
Hi all
Is anyone able to help me find a maiden name please? I have my suspicions of what it may be, but I need to be 100% sure that I'm following the correct line.
Wallace Flather Griffiths was born in 1854 (Marylebone / Middlesex area) His parents are Thomas and Louisa Griffiths
I need to find out Louisa's maiden name and birth details. If anyone can help me, I will be very grateful! ;-)
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ErikaH
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10 Nov 2013 22:18 |
If the birth was registered, buy a copy of the cert for MMN...........
Otherwise look for possible marriage for the parents..........
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ErikaH
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10 Nov 2013 22:19 |
Births Dec 1854 (>99%) Griffiths Wallace Flather Marylebone 1a 328
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GlitterBaby
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10 Nov 2013 22:33 |
One possible
Name: Thomas Griffiths - soldier Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Louisa Lucy Parsons Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 27 Jan 1851 Parish: St Marylebone Christ Church Borough: Westminster Father Name: Thomas Griffiths - gardener Spouse Father Name: George Parsons - gardener Register Type: Parish Register
Do you know the occupation of Thomas ?
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MarieCeleste
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10 Nov 2013 22:35 |
Just in case the father's occupation helps us find a marriage:
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Wallace Flather Griffiths Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 1 Oct 1854 Father's Name: Thomas Griffiths - Bricklayer Mother's Name: Louisa Griffiths Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Registers
Street address is indecipherable.
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MarieCeleste
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10 Nov 2013 22:36 |
Oh, they were having a laugh with his marriage transcription, weren't they?
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Wallace Flasher Griffiths Name: Wallace Flasher Griffiths [Wallace Flather Griffiths] Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Elizabeth Hall Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 23 Sep 1877 Parish: St Marylebone Borough: Westminster Father Name: Thomas Griffiths - Bricklayer Spouse Father Name: Charles Hall Register Type: Parish Register
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GlitterBaby
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10 Nov 2013 22:39 |
The baptism record for Wallace also shows Thomas as a bricklayer
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GlitterBaby
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10 Nov 2013 22:40 |
Where were his parents born ?
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Mavis
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10 Nov 2013 22:41 |
This one -- Thomas is a bricklayer as stated on 1861 census
Name: Thomas Griffiths Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Louisa Napier Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 4 Nov 1850 Parish: Langham Borough: Westminster Father Name: William Griffiths Spouse Father Name: James Napier Register Type: Parish Register
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Natalie
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10 Nov 2013 22:51 |
Thanks to everyone who has replied so far.
I'm afraid I don't know his father's occupation or where the parents were born. My aunt got the parents names - Thomas and Louisa Griffiths - from somewhere (maybe a census or birth certificate) One relative thinks that Louisa's surname is Napier but I want to be able to find concrete evidence of this. :-)
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Natalie
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10 Nov 2013 22:57 |
Flasher!! haha! :-D
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ErikaH
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10 Nov 2013 23:27 |
The maiden name of a married woman wouldn't be recorded on a census................... if your aunt has the birth cert, get her to tell you what it says......
If she hasn't, buy a copy..............then you will have the facts
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ErikaH
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10 Nov 2013 23:29 |
1861 census
Person: GRIFFITHS, Wallace Address: 59, Lisson Grove, Marylebone, London GRIFFITHS, Thomas Lodger Married M 30 1831 Bricklayer Marylebone, Middlesex VIEW GRIFFITHS, Louisa Wife Married F 31 1830 Islington, Middlesex VIEW GRIFFITHS, Matilda Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Marylebone, Middlesex VIEW GRIFFITHS, William Son M 8 1853 Scholar Marylebone, Middlesex VIEW GRIFFITHS, Wallace Son M 6 1855 Scholar Marylebone, Middlesex VIEW GRIFFITHS, Henry Son M 3 1858 Marylebone, Middlesex VIEW Piece: 81 Folio: 134 Page: 8 Registration District: Marylebone Civil Parish: Marylebone Municipal Borough: London A
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Natalie
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10 Nov 2013 23:33 |
No she doesn't have the certificate. I'm not sure where she got the details from - she just gave me these names many years ago before she emigrated.
I will look into buying the certificate.
Thanks for your advice Reggie.
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Chris Ho :)
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11 Nov 2013 08:36 |
(think that says Bulstrode Street on Baptism, could tie in with below?)
1851 Mrs MARTIN Head Widow F 45 1806 British Subject NAPIER, Matilda Unmarried F 30 1821 Lady's Maid Islington, Middlesex GRIFFITHS, Louisa Married F 29 1822 Cook St Lukes, Middlesex JONES, Fred K Unmarried M 19 1832 Page Marylebone, Middlesex WALLACE, H Unmarried F 22 1829 Housemaid Marylebone, Middlesex Piece: 1487 Folio: 100 Page: 32 Registration District: Marylebone Civil Parish: St Marylebone Municipal Borough: Marylebone Address: 2, Bulstrode Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone County: Middlesex
Chris :)
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ChristinaS
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11 Nov 2013 08:56 |
Oh, well found Chris! I've been looking on the 1851 for Matilda Napier (as she was a witness on the marriage certificate) but couldn't find her.
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Chris Ho :)
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11 Nov 2013 08:59 |
1841 ? BAZIER, James M 60 1781 Scotland (Napier) (Tin Plate Worker) NAPIER, Ann F 45 1796 Middlesex NAPIER, Louisa F 11 1830 Middlesex NAPIER, Fredk M 8 1833 Middlesex ULLMER, Geo M 25 1816 Middlesex ULLMER, Eliza F 25 1816 Middlesex ULLMER, Geo M 2 1839 Middlesex ULLMER, Eliza F 1 1840 Middlesex LAUNER, Wilhelmine F 70 1771 Scotland MOLES, Ann F 65 1776 Piece: 678 Book/Folio: 5/9 Page: 10 Registration District: St Marylebone Civil Parish: St Marylebone Municipal Borough: Marylebone Address: Capland Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone County: Middlesex
Name: Ann Lauria Napier (Ann Louisa) Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 15 Mar 1829 (Born 1 Oct 1828) Father's Name: James Napier (Tin Plate Worker) Mother's Name: Ann Agnes Napier Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Luke Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
Name: Malilda Napier (Matilda) Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 23 Feb 1823 (Born 2 Feb 1823) Father's Name: James Napier (Tin Plate Worker) Mother's Name: Ann Agnes Napier Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
Name: Frederick Napier Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 4 Mar 1832 (Born 24 Jan 1832) Father's Name: James Napier (Tin Plate Worker) Mother's Name: Ann Agness Napier Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Registers
1851 TUSSARD, Frances M 40 1801 Foreign TUSSARD, Rebecca F 34 1807 NEPIER, Matilda F 18 1823 Middlesex (Servant) Piece: 678 Book/Folio: 12/42 Page: 30 Registration District: St Marylebone Civil Parish: St Marylebone Municipal Borough: Marylebone Address: Duro Cottage, St Marylebone, Marylebone County: Middlesex
Chris :)
edits (with below, other Baptisms too, going to funeral shortly, so no time to add, apologies!)
Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837 Name: Jas Napier Spouse: Ann Houison (Ann Agnes) Marriage Date: 1812 Parish: St Augustine and St Faith
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Natalie
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11 Nov 2013 12:19 |
wow!! Thank you Chris and Christina for all of your help! I'll work through all the information to piece everything together. :-)
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Chris Ho :)
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11 Nov 2013 16:09 |
(other info.)
Name: James Napier Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1843 Burial Date: 15 Jan 1843 Age: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781 Parish or Poor Law Union: Saint Marylebone Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Register (abode, Capland Street)
Name: Florinda Eliza Napier Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1835 Burial Date: 10 Sep 1835 Age: 8 Weeks Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Parish or Poor Law Union: Saint Marylebone Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Register (abode, Capland Street)
Name: Ann Agnes Napier Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 10 Oct 1813 Father's Name: James Napier (Tin Man) Mother's Name: Ann Agnes Napier Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St John Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
Name: James Boyd Miles Napier Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 20 Apr 1817 (Born 25 March 1817) Father's Name: James Napier (Tin Plate Worker) Mother's Name: Ann Agnes Napier Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
Name: John Boyd Napier Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 28 Mar 1819 (Born 1 March 1819) Father's Name: James Napier (Tin Plate Maker) Mother's Name: Ann Agnes Napier Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
Name: Florinda Eliza Napier Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 9 Aug 1835 (Born 13 July 1835) Father's Name: James Napier (Tin Plate Worker) Mother's Name: Ann Agnes Napier Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Registers
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: James Napier Spouse Name: Ann Agness Houison Record Type: Banns Event Date: 4 Oct 1812 Parish: St Augustine Watling Street Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Register (witnesses, John Donnithorn ? Houison, Sarah Field, John Houison)
Chris :)
edits (looking at 1850 Marriage image, posted by Mavis above, James Napier, occ. Tin Plate Worker. Deceased)
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