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I am trying to trace the marriage or any records of my Great Grandparents
Patrick Rowan born Liverpool @ 1856 and Jane Fagan born Liverpool @1862. They had 4 children Ellen born 1800, Mary born 1883, Jane born 1886 and Patrick born 1892.

1891 census: 30, Brindley Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool

ROWAN, Patrick Head Married M 40 1851 Dock Labourer

ROWAN, Jane Wife Married F 29 1862 Bag Maker

ROWAN, Jane Daughter Single F 5 1886

ROWAN, Ellen Daughter F 11 1880

ROWAN, Mary Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar

All born Liverpool

Can't find a marriage for a Patrick Rowan to a Jane Fagan. You could try looking on www.freebmd.org

1891 for reference

1891 England Census about Patrick Rowan
Name: Patrick Rowan
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Rowan
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration District: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2923
Folio: 28
Page Number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick Rowan 40
Jane Rowan 29
Jane Rowan 5
Ellen Rowan 11
Mary Rowan 7

??? from a tree on ancestry

1871 England Census about Patrick Rowan
Name: Patrick Rowan
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Anthony Rowan
Mother's Name: Mary Rowan
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-registration District: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household Schedule Number: 213
Piece: 3777
Folio: 48
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Anthony Rowan 46 1825 Ireland
Mary Rowan 50 1821 Ireland
Patrick Rowan 18

with first wife?


Name: Ellen Rowan
Age (Original): 1
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1880
Birthplace: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Occupation:
Address: 6 Ho 5 Ct Norfolk St
Event Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341866
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3617 / 84
Page Number: 39
Household Gender Age Birthplace

Head Patrick Rowan M 31 Ireland
Wife Mary Rowan F 30 Ireland
Daughter Anne E Rowan F 16 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Daughter Cathrine Rowan F 14 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Daughter Mary J Rowan F 9 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Daughter Bridget Rowan F 7 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Daughter Margret Rowan F 6 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Daughter Teresa Rowan F 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Daughter Sarah Rowan F 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Daughter Ellen Rowan F 1 Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Have you found them on the 1881 census?

This is very odd looking at the ages.......but it's the only 1881 i can find at the moment...


..1881 England Census
about Patrick Rowan Name: Patrick Rowan
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary Rowan
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 5 CT. Norfolk St. 6 Ho.
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Labourer

Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-registration District: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3617
Folio: 84
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Rowan 31 (Labourer)
Mary Rowan 30
Anne E. Rowan 16
Cathrine Rowan 14
Mary J. Rowan 9
Bridgit Rowan 7
Margret Rowan 6
Teresa Rowan 4
Sarah Rowan 4
Ellen Rowan 1

????
ivil registration event: Birth
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Name: ROWAN, Patrick

Registration district: [?] Liverpool

County: Lancashire

Year of registration: 1852

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]8B

Page no:[?]130

First marriage...

??

Marriages Sep 1865

Flynn Mary Liverpool 8b 458
Rowan Patrick Liverpool 8b 458

Where did you find the maiden name info for Jane?

Which of her children is your direct line?

There are trees on Ancestry, some showing Patrick's wife as Jane Fagan and there is another showing his wife as Jane Macklin b 1861 and married in Liverpool 1882
Perhaps Jane Macklin was a widow ?? mn Fagan ?

Jane is a widow by 1911
ROSS, James Head Married M 29 1882 Iron Drum Maker Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
ROSS, Mary Wife Married7 years F 27 1884 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
ROSS, William Son Single M 7 1904 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
ROSS, James Son Single M 5 1906 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
ROSS, Mary Jane Daughter Single F 3 1908 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
ROSS, Thomas Patrick Son Single M 1 1910 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
ROWAN, Jane Mother In Law Widow F 58 1853 Nil Liverpool Lancashire VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 22219

Reference: RG14PN22219 RG78PN1314 RD454 SD1 ED8 SN17

Registration District: Toxteth Park

Sub District: Toxteth Park North West

Enumeration District: 8

Parish: Toxteth Park

Address: 8 in 7 Court Laxey Street Liverpool S

County: Lancashire
refine search back to 1911 census search resu

This is a CofE marriage.................

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1882
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ROWAN Patrick MACKLIN Jane Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/74/185

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1903
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ROWAN Mary ROSS James Liverpool, St. Michael in the City Liverpool 2054LP/11/163

We need feedback from Sheelah about her sources

Am i following the wrong Patrick Rowen??

This is the Patrick and Mary from the 1881 census i posted...


..1871 England Census
about Annie Rowan Name: Annie Rowan
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Patrick Rowan
Mother's Name: Mary Rowan
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-registration District: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household Schedule Number: 528
Piece: 3777
Folio: 75
Page Number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Rowan 30 (Dock Labourer)
Mary Rowan 30
Annie Rowan 4
Catherine Rowan 2
Bridget Flynn 25 (Sister)
Catherine Flynn 18 (Sister)
Clolin Flynn 16 (Brother)

Which ties in with the 1865 marriage i posted.

I'm confused now!

There is NO birth to match the info about Patrick c1892

Odd though Reggie that on the 1881 census i posted, Patrick is 31.

It appears to be the same family in 1871......but Patrick is 30.

Edit: Note that on the 1891 census posted.........he was born 1851 a Dock Labourer.

I might need to have a lie down!


Edit....Reggie has deleted her post.

there are no Teresa and Sarah births as per that 1881 unless I am missing them? though I can find Mary J (likely)

Thank you all for this help. I had been able to find the family on census records from 1891, 1901, 1911.
I cannot find any records of marriage or of the births of the children and this is where I hit brick wall.
I am descended from Mary Rowan/ Ross whom Jane is living with in 1911, I am pretty certain Patrick died in 1906. Their son Patrick joined the navy and appears on 1911 census in Portsmouth.I cannot be sure of the spouses of Ellen and Jane but think Ellen married a surname Standley