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Welcome to the boards Jan

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William Henry Renshaw who died in 1964 is my grandfather. I was 5 when he died. He was a widower 3 times over

This 1881 for a Hannah Wright certainly fits the birthplace for Hannah Renshaw on the 1901:

WRIGHT, Thomas Head Married M 45 1836 Plate Layer On Railway Anshford, Shropshire
WRIGHT, Ann Wife Married F 42 1839 Ludlow, Shropshire
WRIGHT, Hannah Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Horderley, Shropshire
WRIGHT, Henry Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Horderley, Shropshire
WRIGHT, Laura Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Horderley, Shropshire

Piece: 2906 Folio: 56 Page: 14
Registration District: Tenbury Civil
Parish: Brimfield (Hereford)

Address: Wyson, Brimfield (Hereford) County: Worcestershire

I'm now puzzled - I'd seen the marriage Thelma posted for Arthur & Louisa Jane so assumed that William Henry Renshaw was brother-in-law to Arthur John Facey by way of marrying Arthur John's sister.

That 1895 marriage to Hannah Wright looks a good contender so how does the brother-in-law relationship work? Is it the alternate term for step brother in this case?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Arthur John Facey
Name: Arthur John Facey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Age: 32
Spouse Name: Louisa Jane Adamthwaite
Spouse Age: 31
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Dec 1903
Parish: Willesden St Mary
Borough: Brent
Father Name: William Facey
Spouse Father Name: Henry Adamthwaite
Register Type: Parish Register

Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
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Perrins William Birmingham 6d 95 Scan available - click to view
Renshaw William Henry Birmingham 6d 95 Scan available - click to view
Wright Hannah Birmingham 6d 95 Scan available - click to view <<<<<<<<
Yates Emma Birmingham 6d 95

Jean they aren't his nieces - they're his daughters. The relationship for the two girls is to the head of the household. Please read carefully what is posted - the 1911 says he is a widower and I've already given the duration of his marriage and how many children he'd fathered.

Seeing as he's brother-in-law to Arthur Facey then that certainly gives you a clue as to the surname of his wife you can now have a go at finding his marriage and his wife's death.

It's not unusual for people who work on the railways to move around the country.

He moved about a bit no wonder i couldn't find him.


Jean

Thank you both very much for your help, Marie never new he went to London his nieces Violet ad Edith don't know who the are.

Reggie i will do that. Thank you both very much for your help.


Jean

1901 census


Person: RENSHAW, Violet M Address: 8, Fairfield New High Street, Fairfield

BARSON, Thomas Head Married M 67 1834 Coach Painters Labourer
Derby, Derbyshire VIEW
BARSON, Mary Wife Married F 70 1831
Derby, Derbyshire VIEW
BARSON, Minnie Daughter Single F 23 1878
Derby, Derbyshire VIEW
BARSON, Reginald Grand Son M 6 1895
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
RENSHAW, William Boarder Married M 29 1872 Stationary Engine Driver
Shrewsbury, Salop VIEW
RENSHAW, Hannah Boarder Married F 30 1871
Horderley, Shropshire VIEW
RENSHAW, Mabel E Boarder F 4 1897
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
RENSHAW, William H Boarder M 3 1898
Birmingham, Warwickshire VIEW
RENSHAW, Violet M Boarder F 0 (6 MOS) 1901
Buxton, Derbyshire

If you buy this....you'll find out who the informant was

Death

Name: RENSHAW, William H
Registration district: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1964
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:91
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 149

Looks like him in 1911 with two children:

FACEY, Arthur John Head Married M 39 1872 Stationary Engineman Hendon Middlesex
FACEY, Louisa Jane Wife Married F 38 1873 Paddington London
FACEY, William Henry Son M 6 1905 Willesden London
FACEY, Ellen Louisa Daughter F 4 1907 Finchley London
FACEY, Arthur John Son M 2 1909 Homerton London
RENSHAW, William Henry Brother In Law Widower M 39 1872 Stationary Engineman Strewsbury Salop
RENSHAW, Violet May Niece F 11 1900 Buxton Derby
RENSHAW, Edith Amy Niece F 8 1903 Buxton Derby

RG number: RG14 Piece: 1086
Reference: RG14PN1086 RG78PN36 RD11 SD3 ED13 SN37
Registration District: Hackney
Sub District: Central Hackney
Enumeration District: 13
Parish: St John At Hackney

Address: 19 College Place County: London

According to the image he'd completed 17 years of marriage, 7 children born - 4 still alive.

You could easily have found out his second name.......................

Births Dec 1872 (>99%)
Renshaw William Henry Atcham 6a 691

Marie, yes that's them


Jean

Reggie, as far as i know his mother was Ellen Renshaw ( Thomas).



Jean

Here's that 1881 for our reference:

RENSHAW, John Head Married M 38 1843 Railway Servant (Shunter) Manchester, Lancashire
RENSHAW, Ellen Wife Married F 47 1834 Hereford, Herefordshire
RENSHAW, William H Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Shrewsbury, Shropshire
RENSHAW, John T Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Shrewsbury, Shropshire
BURTON, John Brother In Law Boarder Single M 45 1836 General Labourer Hereford, Herefordshire
EDWARDS, Thomas Lodger Married M 52 1829 Carpenter Pontesbury, Shropshire
CHESTER, Herbert Lodger Single M 18 1863 Haulier Hopton, Shropshire
COLES, William Lodger Single M 26 1855 Haulier Cardington, Shropshire

Piece: 2651 Folio: 114 Page: 2
Registration District: Atcham
Civil Parish: Shrewsbury St Julian

Address: 6, June Cottages, Shrewsbury St Julian County: Shropshire

Thank you Reggie,
will do that.


Jean

1881 suggests a different maiden name for his mother.

Have you checked your facts?

Hello Marie,
No i don't and there is none of the family left that wood, i know it is a long shot. Thank you for looking.

Jean

Have you looked for/found his marriage on freebmd?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

When you find it........let us know who, when and where