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4 Nov 2013 07:41 |
Just in case you don't already have this:
Thomas Nicholson Age in 1911: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Heworth Village, Durham, England Civil Parish: Heworth County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Heworth Dere Felling On Tyne Marital Status: Married Occupation: Joiner Worker Registration District: Gateshead Registration District Number: 557 Sub-registration District: Heworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 30401 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Nicholson 33 Mary Annie Hall Nicholson 27 (born Hepworth) Mary Eliz Simpson Nicholson 6 (Bell Quay) North Murdoch Nicholson 3 (Bell Quay) George Fenwick Nicholson 2 (Pelaw?) They state married 8 years, 3 children born, and I think Mary is a mis-transcription, it looks more like Mgt on image
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4 Nov 2013 07:28 |
There are a number of sites which you can access records for free, these 2 are pretty good for parish records
http://www.freereg.org.uk/search/ https://familysearch.org/ This also has census records - but only 1881 is free to view (Findmypast also has 1881 free to view)
For BMDs use this site http://www.freebmd.org.uk/search
If you want other census records, you would either need to pay, or do what you have done and ask on the boards - there's always someone around to do lookups! Or if you are local, the local library/records office usually have copies of the local census.
Good luck!
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Katie
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3 Nov 2013 23:21 |
Sorry I tried to reply earlier on my phone, but didn't seem to get anywhere.
Thank you for all that information! We knew there was a Robson connection somewhere along the line - if I recall there is a Robson family bible somewhere which someone was trying to find a connection to. How would I now go about finding out further details about the family? Are there any other records that I should be looking at? How do I get access to things like census records etc. without paying the large fees for sites like Ancestry and this one? I'm not trying to be greedy but I have a young family and this is a hobby.
Thank you,
Kate
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2 Nov 2013 09:40 |
Did you get the mother's name Ann Orpeth from John's birth certificate (as you have his exact dob)? If you are right he is with his grandfather in 1851:
John Nicholson Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Grandson Gender: M (Male) Where born: Hepscott, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Hepscott County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration District: Morpeth Sub-registration District: Morpeth ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 5 Piece: 2418 Folio: 294 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age William Orpeth 70 (widower) Ann Edger 22 John Nicholson 13 Both grandparents were alive in 1841
William Orpeth Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781 Gender: Male Where born: Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Morpeth Hundred: Castle (East Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View Image Registration District: Morpeth Sub-registration District: Bedlington Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 822 Book: 7 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age William Orpeth 60 Frances Orpeth 60 John with parents in 1841:
John Nicholson Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Gender: Male Where born: Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Morpeth Hundred: Castle (East Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View Image Registration District: Morpeth Sub-registration District: Bedlington Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 822 Book: 7 Folio: 5 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age John Nicholson 40 Ann Nicholson 30 William Nicholson 10 Robert Nicholson 1 George Nicholson 5 John Nicholson 2 Francis Nicholson 5 Eleanor Nicholson 10
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2 Nov 2013 08:32 |
Possible?
Marriages Dec 1861 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Atkinson Sarah Ann Easingwold 9d 711 <<< Hutton John Easingwold 9d 711 Kay Mary Easingwold 9d 711 Nicholson John Easingwold 9d 711 <<<
EDIT - don't think this is right, they appear to be together on 1861 census,
John Nicholson Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Nicholson Gender: Male Where born: Hepscol Moor, Northumberland, England [Hepscott Moor, Northumberland, England] Civil Parish: Heworth Ecclesiastical parish: Heworth County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Gateshead Sub-registration District: Heworth ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 13 Piece: 3798 Folio: 30 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age John Nicholson 23 Sarah Nicholson 27 Thomas Robson 73 (lodger) - but the Robson name again.
Wonder if this is their marriage?
Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Micholson John Newcastle On Tyne 10b 59 Nicholson John Newcastle T 10b 59 <<<< Readhead Ann Newcastle T 10b 59 Readh[ei]nd Ann Newcastle T 10b 59 Robson Sarah Newcastle T. 10b 59 <<<< Robson Sarah Newcastle T. 10b 59 White William Newcastle T 10b 59
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2 Nov 2013 08:27 |
I assume John must have been married previously, to have children J. & Eliz - wonder if this is his with first wife in 1871:
John Nicholson Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Nicholson Gender: Male Where born: Morpeth, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Heworth County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration District: Gateshead Sub-registration District: Heworth ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household Schedule Number: 27 Piece: 5049 Folio: 63 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age John Nicholson 32 Sarah Nicholson 34 John Nicholson 9 Mary San Nicholson 8 Sarah Jane Nicholson 6 Elizabeth Nicholson 2 Elizabeth Robson 48 (no relationship given)
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Chris Ho :)
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2 Nov 2013 07:03 |
http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/index.php?q=1&cookiecheck=1
(adding above, if any use)
Chris :)
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2 Nov 2013 05:31 |
1881?
Thos. Nicholson Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relationship to Head: Son Father: Jno. Nicholson Mother: Eliz. Nicholson Gender: Male Where born: Heworth, Durham, England Civil Parish: Heworth County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Heworth Villiage Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Gateshead Sub-registration District: Heworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5030 Folio: 100 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Jno. Nicholson 40 Eliz. Nicholson 39 J. Nicholson 20 Eliz. Nicholson 13 Thos. Nicholson 3
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2 Nov 2013 05:25 |
This could be your Thomas in 1901
Thomas Nicholson Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Nicholson Mother's Name: Elizabeth Nicholson Gender: Male Where born: Heworth, Durham, England Civil Parish: Heworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Bill Quay County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Gateshead Sub-registration District: Heworth ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 249 Piece: 4747 Folio: 165 Page Number: 42 Household Members: Name Age John Nicholson 62 Elizabeth Nicholson 58 Thomas Nicholson 23 (joiner/carpenter)
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2 Nov 2013 05:16 |
I think this is the one posted by Sylvia, so father is wrong:
Thomas Nicholson Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Nicholson Mother's Name: Elizabeth Nicholson Gender: Male Where born: Heworth, Durham, England Civil Parish: Heworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Bill Quay County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Gateshead Sub-registration District: Heworth ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4173 Folio: 28 Page Number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Robert Nicholson 42 Elizabeth Nicholson 36 John Nicholson 17 Joseph Nicholson 15 Thomas Nicholson 13 Dorothy Nicholson 11 Mary Nicholson 9 Elener Nicholson 7 George Nicholson 5 William Nicholson 3 Sussana Nicholson 1 Do you know for sure his father was John? On the same census page there is a John Nicholson with wife Sarah, but they are a different family.
ADDED: Think you can rule this one out, as he is still with parents in 1901 and a bricklayers labourer.
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Katie
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1 Nov 2013 23:37 |
I have ordered the birth certificate for Thomas Nicholson and plan to work back from there. As someone relatively new to family history research, being pointed in the right direction is always useful!
Thank you Syliva, it very well could be. My information comes from my grandfather who doesn't always remember facts, like dates, very well. I will ask him if Wynn Street rings any bells tomorrow. Out of interest does this census list his parents' names? Or siblings - Thomas (born & died 1860), John, Mary Ann, Sarah Jane and Elizabeth?
Many thanks,
Kate
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1 Nov 2013 23:09 |
Katie,
Have you got the certificates for those births and marriages?
That is the way to confirm or refute the information.
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Katie
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1 Nov 2013 22:23 |
Hi,
I'm searching for my grandfathers family. I have a vague idea of names, dates, places etc. but I'd be extremely grateful if some kind soul would be able to confirm or refute my information!
My granddad's father is Thomas Nicholson b. 20/09/1876 in Bill Quay, Durham. He was a ships joiner. He married Margaret Annie Hall Halbert on 21/06/1905 at St Mary's Church, Heworth. His parents were John Nicholson (b.1839) and Elizabeth Scott (b.1843).
John Nicholson b. 05/08/1839 in Hepscote, Northumberland. He married Elizabeth Scott in the first quarter 1875. I believe his parents were John Nicholson (1792-1855) and Ann Orpeth (1807-).
Any information you could give me on the family would be fantastic! :-D
Thanks,
Kate
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