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Lianne

Lianne Report 28 Oct 2013 09:37

Hi. Please can anyone find me just the 1871 census for Daniel Skinner with Fanny supposedly his wife. I believe they were in Brick Lane,London. He is a slaughterman. I believe he was born c1841. Thanks for the help

Penny

Penny Report 28 Oct 2013 09:54

born where?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2013 09:56

How did you work back?

Do you know of any children?

How do you know his occupation?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2013 09:58

This is the only one the London area..................

1871 census


Person: SKINNER, Daniel Address: Red Lion St, St James Clerkenwell

SKINNER, Daniel Head M 30 1841 Middlesex VIEW
SKINNER, Hannah Wife F 29 1842 Middlesex VIEW Piece: 383 Folio: 45 Page: 5 Registration District: Holborn Civil Parish: St James Clerkenwell Municipal Borough: Address: Red Lion St, St James Clerkenwell County: London, Middlesex

Occupation: Packer.

Birthplace: Shoreditch

Have you looked for a marriage using freebmd?

Vera

Vera Report 28 Oct 2013 10:04

For ref...Is this the one?

1861 Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
ARNOLD, Robert C Head Married M 37 1824
Wallingford, Berkshire VIEW
ARNOLD, Sarah Wife Married F 37 1824
Clapham, Surrey VIEW
ARNOLD, Emily Daughter F 13 1848
Clapham, Surrey VIEW
ARNOLD, Elizabeth Daughter F 11 1850
Clapham, Surrey VIEW
ARNOLD, Caroline Daughter F 6 1855
Clapham, Surrey VIEW
ARNOLD, Sarah Ann Daughter F 2 1859
Clapham, Surrey VIEW
>>>>>>>SKINNER, Daniel Servant Unmarried M 18 1843 Butcher Servant
Clapham, Surrey VIEW
Piece: 368
Folio: 220
Page: 24
Registration District: Wandsworth
Civil Parish: Clapham
Municipal Borough:
Address: Cross Street, Clapham
County: London, Surrey




Regards Vera

Lianne

Lianne Report 28 Oct 2013 10:09

I am hoping that Daniel of 1843 is the one but yet to be convinced. This is the reason I am looking for 1871 as I believe he is on there with Fanny but cant find. He had a daughter Emily baptized 1871. He had a son Henry c1870. a daughter Josephine, a son William. They are all with their mother on 1881 census in Clerkenwell but cant find earlier one.
I have Henrys birth certificate to prove his birth and says father Daniel mother Fanny nee Setchell. However, despite trying every corner for a marriage for them none can be found.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2013 10:16

Why do you say Henry's birth was c1870?

If you have the cert, you must know the exact date...............and location

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Oct 2013 10:20

He's a butcher here:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Emily Skinner Name: Emily Skinner
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1871
Father's Name: Daniel Skinner
Mother's Name: Fanny Skinner
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthias
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers


Lianne

Lianne Report 28 Oct 2013 10:21

He was born 5th May 1870 Brick Lane,London. This is why I am trying to find 1870 census although he wont be on that one I doubt. Daniel says he is a butcher.
The only marriage record I can find for a Daniel is a marriage to an Elizabeth Parsons that match his age dates etc however he says on that his father is Daniel - a carman. I cant find a census to match that either. :-(

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2013 10:22

For INFO
1881

Name: Fanny Skinner
Age (Original): 37
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1844
Birthplace: London, Middlesex, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Mother Head
Marital Status: Widow
Occupation: Charwoman
Address: 2 Roberts Place
Event Place: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341075
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 345 / 53
Page Number: 3
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Mother Head Fanny Skinner F 37 London, Middlesex, England
Son William Skinner M 13 London, Middlesex, England
Son Henry Skinner M 10 London, Middlesex, England
Daughter Fanny Skinner F 8 London, Middlesex, England
Son John Skinner M 5 London, Middlesex, England
Daughter Josephine Skinner F 2 London, Middlesex, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2013 10:29

There is no death for a Daniel Skinner which could possibly be tied in to the birth of the youngest child and Fanny's alleged status as 'widow' in 1881

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Oct 2013 10:37


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Daniel Skinner
Name: Daniel Skinner************BUTCHER
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Age: 34
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Parsons Widow*****
Spouse Age: 46
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Jun 1875***********************
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Red Lion Square
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Daniel Skinner
Spouse Father Name: David Parsons** this is wrong it's David Wells
Register Type: Parish Register

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2013 11:54

Brick Lane.....which registration district?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Oct 2013 12:18

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England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 about Emily Skinner
Name: Emily Skinner
Birth Date: abt 1871**************************
Event Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1872
Death Age: 1**********************************
Burial Date: 25 Oct 1872
Burial Place: Hackney, Middlesex, England
Piece Title: Piece 49-2: Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery: Burials. Vol 8 Indexed, 1870-1872

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Oct 2013 14:14

Here is the 1871




1871 census transcription details for: Brick Lane, St Mathew Bethnal Green, London
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 500
Folio: 51
Page: 3
Reg. District: Bethnal Green
Sub District: Town
Parish: St Mathew Bethnal Green
Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Brick Lane, St Mathew Bethnal Green, London
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
RINNER, J Daniel S Head M 29 1842 slaughterman, butcher Clapham, Surrey
RINNER, Fanny S Wife F 29 1842 Cambridgeshire
RINNER, Rose S Daughter F 5 1866 Islington Middlesex
RINNER, William S Son M 3 1868 Islington Middlesex
RINNER, Henry Thomas Son M 0 1871 B G Middlesex



Lianne

Lianne Report 28 Oct 2013 15:24

Thank you everyone for all your kind help-most grateful :-D

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Oct 2013 23:30

???


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Rose Skinner
Name: Rose Skinner of 42 Warner St
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Age: 18
Spouse Name: Arthur Wheeler, barometer mounter? of 42 Warner St
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Aug 1883
Parish: Clerkenwell St Peter
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Daniel Skinner, dead
Spouse Father Name: George Wheeler, horse keeper
Register Type: Parish Register

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Oct 2013 23:39

Hmmmm....


1881 census transcription details for: 17, Brunswick Close, Clerkenwell
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 358
Folio: 27
Page: 31
Reg. District: Holborn
Sub District: Goswell Street
Parish: Clerkenwell
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 17, Brunswick Close, Clerkenwell
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
KINNER, Daniel T Head Married M 40 1841 Butcher
Clapham, Surrey (reads Daniel Skinner)
KINNER, Elizabeth Wife Married F 50 1831
Sommers Inn, Middlesex
PARSONS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 30 1851
Holborn, Middlesex
PARSONS, Emily Daughter Single F 22 1859
Idiot Holborn, Middlesex
PARSONS, William Son Single M 15 1866
Holborn, Middlesex
DEREK, George Lodger Single M 23 1858 Tinfoil Worker (Plater)
Clerkenwell, Middlesex



1891 census transcription details for: 41, Jubilee Street, Mile End Old Town
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 302
Folio: 31
Page: 4
Reg. District: Mile End Old Town
Sub District: Mile End Old Town Western
Parish: Mile End Old Town
Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas Stepney
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 41, Jubilee Street, Mile End Old Town
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SKINNER, Daniel Head Married M 54 1837 Butcher
Clapham, Surrey
SKINNER, Elizabeth Wife Married F 63 1828
Somers Town, London
PARSONS, Elizabeth A Daughter Single F 43 1848
Clerkenwell, London
PARSONS, Emily A Daughter Single F 32 1859
Idiot Clerkenwell, London



1901 census transcription details for: 41, Jubilee Street, Mile End Old Town
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 327
Folio: 106
Page: 5
Reg. District: Mile End Old Town
Sub District: Mile End Old Town Western
Parish: Mile End Old Town
Enum. District: 17
Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas Stepney
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 41, Jubilee Street, Mile End Old Town
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SKINNER, Elizabeth Head Married (should read widow) F 74 1827
St Pancras, London
PARSONS, William Son-In-Law Married M 34 1867 Coachman
Smithfield, London
PARSONS, Alfred Grand Son Single M 10 1891
Stratford, Essex
PARSONS, Dolly Grand Daughter F 8 1893
Stepney, London



1911 census transcription details for: 208 Jubilee Street
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN1601 RG78PN56 RD21 SD1 ED30 SN466
Reg. District: Mile End Old Town
Sub District: Mile End Old Town South Western
Parish: Mile End Old Town
Enum. District: 30
Address: 208 Jubilee Street
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
SKINNER, Elizabeth Head Widow F 84 1827 Somers Town London
PARSONS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 63 1848 Farrington St London
PARSONS, Alfred Grandson Single M 20 1891 General Labourer Commercial Rd London
PARSONS, Dothy Granddaughter Single F 18 1893 Tailors Finisher Jubilee St London

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Oct 2013 12:03


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Daniel Skinner
Name: Daniel Skinner
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1892
Age at Death: 53
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 304

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Oct 2013 12:35


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Parsons
Name: William Parsons
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Wells
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 May 1848
Parish: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Richard Parsons, butcher
Spouse Father Name: David Wells, general dealer
Register Type: Parish Register