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This seems to be the FreeCEN version

1841 Census
Piece: SCT1841/570 Place: Lochwinnoch -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Lochwinnoch Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 29
Address: Calder Street
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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
AITKEN Alexander M 65 Renfrewshire
AITKEN Campbell F 50 Renfrewshire
AITKEN Janet F 22 Cotton F Worker Renfrewshire
AITKEN Ann F 17 Cotton F Worker Renfrewshire
AITKEN Andrew M 24 Agricultural Labourer Renfrewshire
AITKEN Agness B. F 7 Renfrewshire

Thanks everyone - was just putting the children to bed. Overwhelmed at all this info flowing so thick and fast - I think you got to the bottom of it then. It seems that despite being named on my great-grandmother's birth certificate, William Haddon Arthur was already dead four years before.

So really it is his wife, my great grandmother Henrietta, who was the chancer - naming a long dead husband as father of her child. I am impressed that it's taken 126 years, almost to the day, for the little secret of her daughter's parentage to be outed!

I certainly have plenty of leads to follow now, even if the discovery has put paid to any thought of Scottish ancestry.

Henrietta lived to be 94, was bombed out of her Coventry almshouse in age 90 in 1940 and died towards the end of the war. My dear grandpa, who only died 10 years ago, was very fond of his granny (and very proud of his Scottish roots - just as well he didn't live to hear tonight's revelation!).

Thanks again to everyone who has helped me tonight.

I am just wondering as this is Emma's first post if she thinks that she will be notified of replies.

I'll send a PM just in case.

Hmm. no occupation given here and they don't seem to be on the Freecen site.

1841

Name: Alexander Arthur
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776
Gender: Male
Where born: Renfrewshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Lochwinnoch
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Calder Street
Parish Number: 570
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Arthur 65
Campbell Arthur 50
Janet Arthur 22
Ann Arthur 17
Andrew Arthur 24
Agness B Arthur 7

William Haddon and Isabella Arthur's marriage:

Warwickshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1910

Name: Isabella Arthur , spinster
Birth Year: abt 1813
Age: 26
Spouse Name: William Haddon, widower - a bricklayer
Spouse Age: 26
Marriage or Bann Date: 21 Mar 1839
Event Type: Marriage
Parish: Mancetter
Father Name: Alexander Arthur - Victualler
Spouse Father Name: George Haddon - Bricklayer

Both of Atherstone.

Witnesses: Elizabeth Trethick (?) Forbes and Thomas Haddon.

Still mild here in Scotland, Maureen and really quite a lot of foliage on trees for the time of year.


:-) :-)

William Haddon's probate:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: William Haddon
Probate Date: 9 Mar 1875
Death Date: 30 Jan 1875
Death Place: Warwickshire, England
Registry: Birmingham, England

Late of Merevale. Will proved by nephew William Haddon Arthur, one of the executors. Effects < £1500

This is the 1871 for the William Haddon shown above in 1851 and also mentioned in the court case:

HADDON, William Head M 58 1813 Warwickshire - a master builder
HADDON, Isabella Wife F 58 1813 Scotland
COOKE, Harriet Servant F 15 1856 Warwickshire

Piece: 3166 Folio: 79 Page: 1
Registration District: Atherstone
Civil Parish: Merevale

Address: Cottage, Merevale County: Warwickshire

and next door is the other brother, Thomas (who legged it when money was owed)

HADDON, Thomas Head M 64 1807 Warwickshire - builder
HADDON, Isabella Daughter F 22 1849 Warwickshire

:-) :-)
Doing well,thanks. Enjoying all the beautiful autumn colours.

:-)

Given Margaret's birth place, I wonder if this is her Dad or even her Granddad. You'll know when you get Margaret's death certificate hopefully.

1841

Piece: SCT1841/448 Place: Monimail -Fife Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Monimail Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 12


Address: Village Of Letham

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MYLES Andrew M 80 Cabinet Maker Fife
ARMET Elizabeth F 15 Agricultural Labourer Fife
PEATTIE Janet F 3 Fife


This one looks interesting too.

1841

Piece: SCT1841/448 Place: Monimail -Fife Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Monimail Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 9
Address: Village Of Letham New Row

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MYLES Andrew M 65 Flax Hand Loom Weaver Fife
MYLES Ann F 55 Fife
MYLES Ann F 20 Flax Hand Loom Weaver Fife

Name: Alexander Arthur

Christening Date: 01 Mar 1835
Christening Place: , PORT GLASGOW, RENFREW, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1835

Father's Name: Alexander Arthur

Mother's Name: Margaret Myles

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11960-2
System Origin: Scotland-VR
GS Film number: 1041325
Reference ID: - 2:18JK23J



The births of the other siblings are on Familysearch



Maureen, hope you are well. :-)

1851 - No Alexander

Name: Margaret Arthur
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Letham, fife
Parish Number: 574
Civil Parish: Paisley Middle Church
Town: Port Glasgow
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Barr's Bras Foot
ED: 5
Page: 8 (click to see others on page)
Household Schedule Number: 33
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1851_127
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Arthur 41
Andrew Arthur 14
John Arthur 11
Ann Arthur 6
John Myles 32


1861

Name: Margaret Arthur
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Monimail, fifeshire
Registration number: 574
Registration District: Port Glasgow
Civil Parish: Port Glasgow
Town: Port Glasgow
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Newark Place
ED: 2
Household Schedule Number: 20
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1861_81
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Arthur 50
Andrew Arthur 24
John Arthur 21
William Arthur 19
Ann Arthur 16



From the above, you know that Margaret died after statutory registration began in Scotland in 1855. You can search for her death on Scotlandspeople using both her maiden surname and married name. Scottish death registrations give the names of both parents including the mother's maiden surname if the informant knew the details.

Just tentative:

Isabella Arthur, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
Name: Isabella Arthur
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 20 Dec 1812
Christening Place: KINROSS,KINROSS,SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 07 Dec 1812
Father's Name: Alexr. Arthur
Mother's Name: Isabella Scott

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11462-6
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 1040354
Reference ID:........
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Alexander Arthur, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
Name: Alexander Arthur
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 14 Feb 1808
Christening Place: KINROSS,KINROSS,SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 06 Feb 1808
Father's Name: Alexander Arthur

Mother's Name: Isabella Scott
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11462-6
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 1040354
Reference ID:

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Maureen~~~~~~~to Mrs Rootie :-D

Name: Alexander Arthur

Spouse's Name: Margaret Myles

Event Date: 27 Dec 1833
Event Place: Port Glasgow,Renfrew,Scotland

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11960-3
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 1041325
Reference ID:



The Freecen version of that 1841 to show if born in county.

Piece: SCT1841/574 Place: Port Glasgow -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Port Glasgow Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 13 Page: 12

Address: Chapel Lane

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ARTHUR Alexr. M 30 Joiner Journeyman Outside Census County (1841)
ARTHUR Margaret F 30 Outside Census County (1841)
ARTHUR Andrew M 4 Renfrewshire
ARTHUR John M 2 Renfrewshire
MYLES John M 20 Joiner Journeyman Outside Census County (1841)
FORRESTER Andrew M 20 Joiner Journeyman Outside Census County (1841)

Oops. Sorry Maureen, 'phone went and I didn't refresh the page.

1841

Name: Alexr Arthur
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Port Glasgow
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Chapel Lane
Occupation: Joiner J
Parish Number: 574
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexr Arthur 30
Margaret Arthur 30
Andrew Arthur 4
John Arthur 2
John Myles 20
Andrew Forrester 20


Place of residence fits in with the place of birth Beverley posted and Alexander is a Joiner Journeyman.

This looks like the family suggested by BevW's post:
1841 Scotland Census about Alexr Arthur
Name: Alexr Arthur
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Port Glasgow
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Chapel Lane
Occupation: Joiner J
Parish Number: 574
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexr Arthur 30
Margaret Arthur 30
Andrew Arthur 4
John Arthur 2
John Myles 20
Andrew Forrester 20
Source Citation: Parish: Port Glasgow; ED: 4A; Page: 12; Line: 1140; Year: 1841.

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Might be interesting to get this marriage cert:
Marriages Mar 1839
ARTHUR Isabella Atherstone 16 240
HADDON William Atherstone 16 240

since that was the couple William was with in 1851.

Maureen

There's an item in the Tamworth Herald 5 August 1876 where William Haddon Arthur was being sued by the Leicestershire Banking Company.

The article's too long to type out in full so I'll summarise it - Two brothers William and Thomas Haddon had incurred debts of £216 with the bank, William Haddon had died in 1875 and William Haddon Arthur was executor of his estate. It was in that capacity that he was being pursued, Thomas Haddon seems to have done a runner.

Given the two brother's names they must be related to W H Arthur?

There was also a report in April of that year that he was being sued for £50 for the death of a horse belonging to a William Tempest of the Castle Hotel, Tamworth. Apparently WH Arthur's driver had driven negligently and crashed into Mr Tempest's horse and trap, causing his horse to be killed.

Still listed as a builder in 1876:

UK, Midlands and Various UK Trade Directories, 1770-1941

Name: William Haddon Arthur
Region: Warwickshire
Residence Year: 1876
Publication Title: 1876 Kelly's Directory of Warwickshire
Street Address: Long street & Mevevale, Atherstone

I think his father's name looks pretty clear on his second marriage certificate:

Warwickshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1910

Name: William Haddin Arthur - Builder
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Henreitta Stibbing
Spouse Age: Full Age
Marriage or Bann Date: 2 Jun 1875
Event Type: Marriage
Parish: Mancetter
Father Name: Alexander Arthur - Joiner
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Stebbing