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21 Oct 2013 18:38 |
Mary Stonham bp 23 May 1862 and her daughter Mary Stonham born 16 Feb 1883 bp 5 Feb 1892 8y old
all taken place in Hastings - Sussex Stonham / Stoneham
1891 Census Hastings
William Stonham 75y he died Dec 1894 Mary Stonham 28y Mary Stonham 8y
I know all about the rest of the Stonham family of Hastings its just these 2 I cant find. after 1891
Mary 1862 was infact the mother of Joseph Stonham 1885 who died in 1928 in the lifeboat tragedy at Rye
any Ideas that may help please
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21 Oct 2013 18:49 |
Did she marry ?
Marriages Jun 1897
Foster Lilian Hastings 2b 18 Morgan William Jesse Hastings 2b 18 Stonham Mary Ann Hastings 2b 18 Tollett Robert John Hastings 2b 18
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21 Oct 2013 18:52 |
she was only bp as Mary as was her daughter
I tried to find these men to check them out -- not even found them !!
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21 Oct 2013 19:02 |
Maybe this one
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Broadbridge Walter Steyning 2b 365 >>>>>Fry Arthur Steyning 2b 365 Stenning Louise Steyning 2b 365 >>>>>Stonham Mary Steyning 2b 365
1901
Arthur Fry 40 Mary Fry 39 born Hastings
Also appear to be on 1911 census, married 29 years, 2 children born. 29 years would be 1882 which would cover birth of Mary jnr.
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21 Oct 2013 19:16 |
Possible for daughter Mary marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Irwin Frank Walter Pancras 1b 217 Stonham Mary Pancras 1b 217
1901 census for St Pancras
Frank Walte Irwin 21 Fishmonger Mary Irwin 20 born Hastings
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21 Oct 2013 19:28 |
Possible child
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Fergus Felic Frederick Irwin
Name: Fergus Felic Frederick Irwin
Record Type:Baptism Baptism Date:17 Feb 1904 Father's Name:Frank Walter Irwin Mother's Name:Mary Ann Irwin Parish or Poor Law Union:Tollington Park St Mark Borough:Islington Register Type:Parish Registers Andy
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21 Oct 2013 19:30 |
Possible emigration
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Frank Irwin
Name:Frank Irwin Gender:Male Age:27 Birth Date:abt 1880 Departure Date:5 Feb 1907 Port of Departure:Liverpool, England Destination Port:Quebec, Canada Ship Name:Kensington
with Mary, Francis and Fergus
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21 Oct 2013 19:30 |
the last one looks interesting
thanks for imput at the mo
a lot of trees seem to have Joseph White as the father of Joseph Stonham 1885 he is living with aunt and uncle - William and Charlotte Milgate also there is Joseph White 1861 as brother in law [ Charlotte's brother - she was White ] dont know if Joseph White was Mary Stonham's 1883 father ??
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21 Oct 2013 19:41 |
If born out of wedlock, birth certs don't usually name the father, but it might be worth getting a copy just in case
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1883 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STONHAM Mary Hastings 2b 15
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21 Oct 2013 20:33 |
the Mary Ann Stonham = Robert John Tollett was the daughter of George Stonham not who I was looking for
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21 Oct 2013 21:02 |
I realise you have this but for ref.
1901
Name: Joseph Stonham Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Icklesham Ecclesiastical parish: Icklesham St Nicholas with Rye Harbour Holy Spirit Town: Rye Harbour County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Rye Sub-registration District: Beckley ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 23 Piece: 861 Folio: 111 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age William Milgate 40 Charlotte Milgate 37 Joseph White 40 Brother-in-law Sarah White 25 Joseph Stonham 16, General Labourer
1891
Name: Joseph Stoneham Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Icklesham Ecclesiastical parish: Icklesham Town: Rye Harbour County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Rye Sub-registration District: Beckley ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 757 Folio: 128 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Charlotte Milgate 27 Joseph White 70 Joseph White 29 Joseph Stoneham 6
Marriages Sep 1890 Fowler Mary Jane Rye 2b 1 MILGATE John Alfred Rye 2b 1 RICHARDSON George Rye 2b 1 Vall Charlotte Rye 2b 1
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21 Oct 2013 21:09 |
Charlotte was married to William Milgate
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21 Oct 2013 21:13 |
1891
Name: William Stonham Age: 73 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England Civil Parish: St Clement Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement Town: Hastings County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Hastings Sub-registration District: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 760 Folio: 57 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age William Stonham 73 Mary Stonham 28 Mary Stonham 8
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21 Oct 2013 21:33 |
yes thats the 2 Mary's who have gone missing
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21 Oct 2013 21:56 |
If it's the correct Mary Ann then this is the birth of a child in Canada:
Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913 Name: Frank Walter Irwin Date of Birth: 6 Jul 1908 Gender: Male Birth County or District: Waterloo Father's Name: Frank Walter Irwin - Shoemaker Mother's Name: Mary Stenham Archive Name: Archives of Ontario Archive Series: MS929 Archive Reel: 22
Lived Tait Street.
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21 Oct 2013 23:03 |
thats the right family -- was she Mary or Mary Ann -- the Stonham I am trying to find was just Mary.
Is there any way to find her date of birth ?? Mary Stonham was born 18 Feb. 1883
thank you for finding her so far MC
Mavis of to bed now so wont respond till morning -- nite
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22 Oct 2013 09:34 |
Thanks for help
I wonder if elder Mary died and death not reg. ? I know it did happen
thanks again
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22 Oct 2013 12:06 |
Wonder if Mary registered William's death.
Deaths Dec 1894 Stoneham William 7_ Hastings 2b 12
Seeing Charlotte's marriage now.
Marriages Mar 1884 Millgate William James Hastings 2b 22 White Charlotte Hastings 2b 22
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22 Oct 2013 16:03 |
By the process of elimination of Mary or Mary Ann's only 2 born 1880 to 1883
Mary Ann Stonham - George / Jane's dau = Robert John Tollett
Mary's dau Mary Stonham 1883 must be the one who = Frank Walter Irwin but she must have been under age -- she was 20y 1901
Can any one with Canadian records be able to locate her death please
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