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18 Oct 2013 12:25 |
Possible baptism for Warren - the image looks more like Hodgkis: Father doesn't agree with name on marriage - that was William
Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Warren Hodger
Name:Warren Hodger Parish:Wyken Baptism Date:7 Apr 1861 Father's Name:George Hodger - knife grinder Mother's Name:Caroline Hodger Abode given as "travellers"
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18 Oct 2013 12:10 |
Yes, Steve, place of birth unknown. Ancestry gives Rosanah as Warren's mother but there is nothing on the image to show that. Also on the page is another gypsy family, the Fletchers but nothing to indicate a relationship to the Hodkinsons.
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18 Oct 2013 07:18 |
Potty
Really interesting about the Gypsy connection. I presume the POB NK means place of birth unknown??
Thanks
Steve
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17 Oct 2013 16:42 |
1901
Name: Walter Banks Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Son Father's Name: Walter Banks Mother's Name: Alice Banks Gender: Male Where born: United States (British Subject) Civil Parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Birmingham Sub-registration District: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 93 Piece: 2839 Folio: 130 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Walter Banks 38, Jeweller (Gold), b. Birmingham Alice Banks 35, b. Birmingham Walter Banks 16 Laura Banks 12, b. Manchester Lily Banks 10 b. Birmingham
That may be a second marriage for Walter (Senior)
Name: Walter Banks, Occ. Jeweller Arrival Date: 4 Apr 1893 Birth Date: abt 1863 Age: 30 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: English Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Servia Search Ship Database: Search the Servia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Travelling with wife Ellen aged 25 and son Walter aged 8
Name: Walter Banks, Occ. Labourer Birth Date: abt 1864 Age: 28 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 7 Dec 1892 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Teutonic Search Ship Database: View the 'Teutonic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Official Number: 96334
Travelling with wife Ellen aged 22
Name: Walter Banks, Shop Assistant Birth Date: abt 1864 Age: 31 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 15 May 1895 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Teutonic Search Ship Database: View the 'Teutonic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Official Number: 4244
Travelling with wife Ellen aged 25 and son Walter aged 10
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17 Oct 2013 14:46 |
Blimey and double Blimey!!
My Mum's cousin will be absolutely gobsmacked as she's born and bred Geordie, the news of her family roots will be BIG news
Thanks to all those who helped!
Steve
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17 Oct 2013 13:53 |
Maybe Agnes's gypsy background explains the change of occupation for Walter and a showman would travel around which could explain the move to Tyneside.
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17 Oct 2013 13:25 |
1861 England Census Warren Hodgkinson Age:2 Weeks Estimated Birth Year:abt 1861 Relation:Grandson Mother's Name:Rosanah Hodkinson there is nothing on the image to indicate that she is his mother Where born:Wyken, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish:Wyken
Catherine Hodgkinson 60 Widow, POB NK Catherine Hodkinson 25 unmarried POB NK Rosanah Hodkinson 23 unmarried POB NK Warren Hodgkinson 2 Weeks All shown as Gypsies which would tie up with fathers occupation on marriage
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17 Oct 2013 13:20 |
Given Warren's occupation, could this be his marriage? He just made his mark so wouldn't have known that the name was wrong:
Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937 about Warren Hodgkiss : Warren Hodgkiss - Chimney sweep, Moor Street Birth Year: abt 1860 Marriage Date:27 Jun 1881 Marriage Age:21 Marriage Place:Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, England Spouse:Elizabeth Wilson, Milk Street Spouse Marriage Age:20 Father: William Hodgkiss - Tinker Spouse's Father: Thomas Wilson, Labourer
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17 Oct 2013 13:06 |
Warren seems to have died young:
Warwickshire, England, Burials, 1813-1910
Warren Hodgekins
Birth Year: abt 1860 Parish:Meriden Burial Date:5 Aug 1897 Burial Age:37
Images says died at Coventry, Warwickhire Hospital
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17 Oct 2013 12:53 |
Ellen from the 1891 seems to have been registered as Hodgekins:
Name: Ellen Elizabeth Hodgekins
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1888
Registration District: Meriden
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 426
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17 Oct 2013 12:47 |
I think this is the family in 1891:
Name:Agnes Hodgkins Age:8 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1883 Relation:Daughter Father's Name:Warren Hodgkins Mother's Name:Elizabeth Hodgkins Gender:Female Where born:Cathein the Barnes, Warwickshire, England CIvil Parish:Meriden
Warren Hodgkins 33 - chimney sweep Elizabeth Hodgkins 29 Willie Hodgkins 9 Agnes Hodgkins 8 Florence A Hodgkins 6 George Hodgkins 5 Ellen E Hodgkins 2 Hebert Hodgkins 9/12 Edit: just noticed Jan has already posted this!
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17 Oct 2013 12:43 |
I wonder if this could be Agnes's birth (there is also one for a William Hodgkins in 1882, Meriden):
Births Jun 1883 (>99%)
HODGKINS Agnes Meriden 6d 459
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17 Oct 2013 12:37 |
William in 1901, living in Meriden, POB Hampden in Arden, which is close to Catherine-de-Barnes:
Elizabeth Hodgekins 38 William Hodgekins 19 George Hodgekins 15 Ellen Hodgekins 13 Bertie Hodgekins 12 Gerty Hodgekins 9 Ernest Hodgekins 7 Violet Hodgekins 4 Daily Hodgekins 4
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17 Oct 2013 12:34 |
A possible relative?
1911 England Census Name:William Hodgekins Age in 1911:29 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1882 Relation to Head:Head Birth Place:Catherine De Barnes Civil Parish:Meriden County/Island:Warwickshire Country:England Street Address:Meriden Nr Coventry Marital Status:Married
William Hodgekins 29 Ellen Elizabeth Hodgekins 27 William Warran Hodgekins 2
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17 Oct 2013 12:33 |
Blimey!
Walter Banks an American, that may well fit in with the profession description on his son's Herbert Stanley Banks birth cert in 1920, it reads "Showman" which is avery American description.
Thanks all!
Steve
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17 Oct 2013 12:31 |
891 England Census Name: Agnes Hodgkins Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Warren Hodgkins Mother's Name: Elizabeth Hodgkins Gender: Female Where born: Cathein the Barnes, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Meriden Ecclesiastical parish: Meriden Town: Meriden County/Island: Warwickshiree Registration District: Meriden Sub-registration District: Meriden
Warren Hodgkins 33 Elizabeth Hodgkins 29 Willie Hodgkins 9 Agnes Hodgkins 8 Florence A Hodgkins 6 George Hodgkins 5 Ellen E Hodgkins 2 Hebert Hodgkins 9/12
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17 Oct 2013 12:29 |
Were any children born after 1911? Seems there may have been and MMN given as Hodgekins:
Births Mar 1913 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Banks Doris M Hodgekins Aston 6d 851 Scan available - click to view
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Banks Alfred S Hodgekins Aston 6d 832 Scan available - click to view
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Banks Herbert S Hodgekins Tynemouth 10b 526
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17 Oct 2013 12:28 |
1911 for reference
Agnes Banks Age in 1911:29 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1882 Birth Place:Sollihull, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish:Birmingham County/Island:Warwickshire Street Address:2 Back 38 Tenby St North Bham
Walter Banks 28 Agnes Banks 29 Walter Banks 7 Eric Cecil Banks 2 Leslie Banks 11/12 Agnes Flora Banks 3 5/12
says married 6 years
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17 Oct 2013 12:28 |
Potty
To be honest I can't really be paying out for certs and Mum's cousin is an OAP so I was just hoping that someone may have access to a record or two that may help. I'm trying as a favour to a relative, if it doesn't come to anything, then at least I can say I tried!
Steve
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17 Oct 2013 12:26 |
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1901 England Census Name: Agnes Hodgkins Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Solihull Civil Parish: Aston Manor Ecclesiastical parish: Lozells St Silas County/Island: Warwickshire
Registration District: Aston Sub-registration District: Aston Manor
Richard Adams 62 Elizabeth Adams 57 Nellie Adams 27 Ruth Adams 16 Edith Adams 7 Arthur Adams 20 William Adams 18 Thomas James 27 Agnes Hodgkins 19
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