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Maureen
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1 Oct 2013 12:58 |
Is it possible to find who the parents of Eleanor Hoyes, baptised Jan 1812 in Freiston Lincs? Their names are not given on the IGI. There appears to be only one family of Hoyes in Freiston at that time but I don't think that they are Eleanor's parents as their last child was born c 1795-too big a gap I think! Many thanks
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Dea
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1 Oct 2013 13:05 |
What else do you know about her please?
Did she marry?
Did she have any brothers or sisters?
Do you have her on any census?
Dea x
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Chris Ho :)
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1 Oct 2013 13:07 |
Baptism ? County Lincolnshire Place Freiston Church St James RegisterNumber 1 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 01 Jan 1813 Forename Eleanor Sex F FatherForename John MotherForename Ann FatherSurname HAYES MotherSurname Abode Freiston
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http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Chris :)
(others using Soundex option, if anything relating)
Record Type Baptism Date Surname Forename County Place Name Found As 1 Baptisms 07 May 1759 HOYES Edward Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 2 Baptisms 16 Sep 1783 HOYES Elizabeth Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 3 Baptisms 11 Apr 1785 HOYES Robt Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 4 Baptisms 24 Nov 1786 HOYES Elizabeth Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 5 Baptisms 17 Aug 1788 HOYES Mary Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 6 Baptisms 09 Sep 1791 HOYES Sarah Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 7 Baptisms 07 Apr 1793 HOYES Susannah Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 8 Baptisms 14 Sep 1794 HOYES Richard Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 9 Baptisms 09 Oct 1796 HOYES Elizabeth Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 10 Baptisms 14 Jan 1799 HOYES John Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 11 Baptisms 12 Aug 1800 HOYES Mary Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 12 Baptisms 06 Nov 1801 HOYES Susan Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 13 Baptisms 23 Jan 1804 HOYES Ann Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 14 Baptisms 01 Jan 1813 HAYES Eleanor Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 15 Baptisms 05 Sep 1841 HOYES John Winter Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 16 Baptisms 14 Feb 1843 HOYES William Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname 17 Baptisms 21 Mar 1847 HOYES Thomas Lincolnshire Freiston Father Surname
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Maureen
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1 Oct 2013 13:12 |
Hi Dea
Eleanor had 2 illegitimate children-one born 1835 in Boston the other in 1836 in Tydd St Mary Lincs. She lived in Boston but married sometime later to Francis North-(can't find the marriage but in 1861 she was widowed & living with her son Edward-calling herself Ellen) in Woodhouse Yorks. Sorry that's all I know
Maureen
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Maureen
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1 Oct 2013 13:19 |
Thanks very much Chris
That's the one-I tried Freereg & couldn't find her!! No wonder if it was under Hayes! Now I can go back & find the rest of the family-once again thank you thank you so much
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PricklyHolly
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1 Oct 2013 13:24 |
Is this not her in 1861 with a Grandson Frederick........
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1861 England Census about Ellen Hoyes Name: Ellen Hoyes Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Freiston, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Boston Ecclesiastical parish: St Botolph County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Boston Sub-registration District: Boston ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 120 Piece: 2335 Folio: 96 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Hoyes 49 (Widow) Frederick Hoyes 5
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1851 England Census about Ellen Hoyes Name: Ellen Hoyes Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Servant Gender: F (Female) Where born: Frieston, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Sutton St Mary County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration District: Holbeach Sub-registration District: Gedney Hill ED, institution, or vessel: 2g Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 46 Piece: 2097 Folio: 310 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age George Garton 50 Ellen Hoyes 38 (Widow) Housekeeper Henry Hoyes 14 Tydd St Mary
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Dea
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1 Oct 2013 13:40 |
Maureen,
What makes you think that she 'married' a Francis North?
Also can you post that 1861 census you mention you have her on with son Edward living in Yorkshire, for reference please??
Prickles looks to have posted the correct 1851 and 1861 census for this particular Ellen above and she is still in Lincolnshire on both ??
Dea x
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Maureen
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1 Oct 2013 14:04 |
Hi
Yes, this is Eleanor on the 1851 with her grandson, & on the 1861 I will have to check the Ellen North with Edward-looks like it may not be who I thought it was! Thanks for the searches everyone-sorry it took me a while to reply- I was burning something on the cooker!!!
Maureen
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PricklyHolly
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1 Oct 2013 16:10 |
..1871 England Census about Henry E Hoyes Name: Henry E Hoyes Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Mother's Name: Ellen North Gender: Male Where born: Tidd St Marys, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Kirkleatham Ecclesiastical parish: East Coatham Town: East Coatham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration District: Guisborough Sub-registration District: Kirkleatham ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household Schedule Number: 127 Piece: 4856 Folio: 67 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Henry E Hoyes 34 Ellen North 60 (Mother) Widow...Freiston Lincolnshire
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PricklyHolly
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1 Oct 2013 16:15 |
I think this is Henry in 1861......and should read Tydd St Mary Lincolnshire
1861 England Census about Henry Hoyes Name: Henry Hoyes Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Lydd; St Mary, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Boston Ecclesiastical parish: St Botolph County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Boston Sub-registration District: Boston ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 18 Piece: 2337 Folio: 125 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Cecil 72 Charles Martin 79 Henry Hoyes 28 Martha Baton 16
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Maureen
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2 Oct 2013 21:43 |
Many thanks Pricklyholly
Sorry to be late answering-haven't been around today. I noticed that Edward suddenly became 'Henry' E on the census. Aged 4, he & Harriet (6) were in the workhouse in Boston (1841 census) but I didn't spot Eleanor (Ellen). I have tried to find the marriage of Eleanor's parents-John & Ann. I wondered if he was the John born in Boston in 1780 who would have been a widower if so. The answer to one question raises many others!! Thanks again Maureen
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PricklyHolly
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2 Oct 2013 22:22 |
How did you arrive at the name of Francis North?
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PricklyHolly
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3 Oct 2013 09:18 |
I don't know if this is relevant..........but i'm posting it anyway......
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription First Name: ELLEN BOOTHBY Last Name: HOYES Year: 1862 Event Quarter: 2 Country: England County: Lincolnshire District: BOSTON Volume: 7A Page: 643 Line Number: 5 Potential Spouse Names: JOHN NORTH
FreeBMD version...
Marriages Jun 1862 (>99%) HOYES Allenboothby Boston 7a 643 North John Boston 7a 643
This is the only Ellen Hoyes/North marriage i can find between 1861 and 1871.
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Maureen
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3 Oct 2013 14:44 |
Thanks Pricklyholly
Again, sorry to be late answering--busy morning shopping! A long time ago, I found a death record in 1882 for Eleanor & I made a notation that it said widow of Francis North--I can't remember now where I found it! I don't know if this is the marriage of my Ellen Hoyes to John North & I haven't seen her refered to as Ellen Boothby-but you never know so thanks for that info. Still trying to find John & Ann's marriage sometime time before Eleanor was born in 1812. It must be out there somewhere!
Many thanks Maureen
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