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Philip John

Philip John Report 26 Sep 2013 09:28

Frank and Joseph Eames departed London for Australia 7/9/1912 on board The Ballarat. Franks wife and children followed 20/3/1913. Joseph returned to England 5/4/1914. They had 5 Brothers and 2 sister in South Yorkshire. I am trying to locate their family in Australia.

Philip Eames grandson of brother Iram.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 09:52

Do you have some names for us to work with please?
As a starting point in the Australian search, do you have any idea where they originally settled?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 10:03

Is this them? Travelling with
Ivan age 4
Joyce age 3

First Name
Last Name EAMES
Title MRS
Age Transcribed 26
Departure 20 Mar 1913

Ship Name IRISHMAN
Ship Departure Port LIVERPOOL
Destination Port MELBOURNE
State Victoria
Country AUSTRALIA
Destination Place MELBOURNE
Destination Place Country AUSTRALIA
Gender Female
Marital Status
Occupation WIFE
Birth Year 1887

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 10:07

1911 - yes, we know you know their names, but we don't.

Address QUARRY HOUSE WHISTON
Parish WHISTON
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West riding)
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District
Enumeration District 25
Registration District ROTHERHAM
Registration District Number 511
SubDistrict Number 2

First Name FRANK
Last Name EAMES
Birth Year 1879
Age 32
Where Born WEST MELTON
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Male
Condition MARRIED
Year Of Marriage
Years Of Marriage
Occupation CARTER GENERAL CARRIER

First Name HANNAH
Last Name EAMES
Birth Year 1887
Age 24
Where Born YORKS DALTON
Relationship To Head of Household WIFE
Gender Female
Condition MARRIED
Year Of Marriage 1908
Years Of Marriage 3

First Name IVAN VINCENT
Last Name EAMES
Birth Year 1909
Age 2
Where Born YORKS WHISTON
Relationship To Head of Household SON
Gender Male
Condition SINGLE

First Name JOYCE IVRA
Last Name EAMES
Birth Year 1910
Age 1
Where Born YORKS WHISTON
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Condition SINGLE

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 10:10

Just in case Hannah's maiden name is relevant later on

Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
Eames Frank Rotherham 9c 871
WILLIAMSON Hannah Rotherham 9c 871

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 10:18

???

Web: BillionGraves.com Burial Index about Ivan Vincent Eames
Name: Ivan Vincent Eames
Birth Date: 10 Oct 1908
Age at Death: 99
Death Date: 13 Feb 2008
Cemetery: Buninyong Cemetery
Burial Place: Buninyong, Victoria, Australia

Links to image of the grave
http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/person/3561816

Husband of Queenie

His wife also buried there
http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/MyrtleGEames/3534010
Myrtle G (Queenie) Eames
Birth Not Available
Death 28 March 1989 (age 79)
Cemetery Buninyong Cemetery
Buninyong, Victoria, Australia

Epitaph & Description Beloved wife of Ivan Loved mother of Ronald and Robert

There are a couple of other Eames burials in this cemetery, but there is no way to know at this stage if they are related

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 10:26

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Ivan Vincent Eames
Name: Ivan Vincent Eames - occ Labourer
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1931
State: Victoria
District: Ballaarat
Subdistrict: Sebastopol
Learmonth Street, Buninyoung

With Frank, a hawker and Hannah

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 10:38

In 1936 they are at the same address, but with the addition of a Frank Eric Eames who was a labourer. So another son for Frank and Hannah?

He drops off on the 1942 ER

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 10:46

????

From the Australian National Archives WW2 records which are not on line. Summary only

EAMES ERIC FRANK : Service Number - VX61597 : Date of birth - 06 Mar 1914 : Place of birth - WELSHPOOL VIC : Place of enlistment - ROYAL PARK VIC : Next of Kin - EAMES IRIS

Ivan also has a record

EAMES IVAN VINCENT : Service Number - V246463 : Date of birth - 10 Oct 1908 : Place of birth - WESTON ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - BENDIGO VIC : Next of Kin - EAMES HANNAH

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Name: Ivan Vincent Eames (mechanic)
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1949
State: Victoria
District: Ballaarat
Subdistrict: Ballaarat

19 Ripon St with Myrtle Gertrude Eames....... aka Queenie?

Not sure what has happened to Frank as by 1968 Ivan and Myrtle have moved in with Hannah in Learmonth Street. Hannah isn't listed with them in 1972

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Frank snrs death

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Frank Eames
Name: Frank Eames
Death Place: Ballarat, Victoria
Age: 74
Father's Name: Thchas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Smith
Registration Year: 1954
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 20134
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880

Hannah's
Name: Hannah Eames
Death Place: Ballarat, Victoria
Age: 84
Father's Name: Joh Williamson
Mother's Name: Sarah Saunderson
Registration Year: 1971
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 5380
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 11:29

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Joyce Ivra Eames
Name: Joyce Ivra Eames
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1931
State: Victoria
District: Melbourne
Subdistrict: Newmarket

Living at 427 Dryburgh St and working as a Waitress

Name: Joyce Ivia Eames
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1936
State: Victoria
District: Melbourne
Subdistrict: Melbourne East
12 Simpson St, Waitress

The same in 1937. No ER in her surname after that - she might have married.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Sep 2013 11:43

So.............unless someone can come up with further records, you seem to be limited to Robert and Ronald Eames the sons of Ivan and Myrtle.

There are 2 listings on the Australian White pages under R Eames in Victoria. A letter might get an answer.

http://www.whitepages.com.au

If you were to contact the Ask a Librarian service for Victoria, they 'might' be willing to tell you what the R stands for from the current ER. You'd need to give them the address

http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/services/ask-librarian

If you were to contact the cemetery where Myrtle and Ivor are buried, they may be willing to tell you the name of the person who arranged the burial. However, they won't give you an address

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 27 Sep 2013 14:33

Welcome to the Community boards Philip.




I'll send Philip a message on how to return to his thread. :-)

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 8 Oct 2013 08:44

Hi all :)

Marriage of daughter Joyce in Victoria:

Digger - Marriage Index. Victoria 1921-1942
Family Name: EAMES
Given Name: Joyce Ivra
Spouse Family Name: GARRATT
Spouse Given Name: Leslie
Registration Year: 1939
Registration Number: 194
Event: M

Leslie died in 1983 in Sebastopol aged 77 (reg 18308). Joyce died in May 2001 aged 92! They are buried here http://ballaratcemeteries.com.au/php/search.php as are Frank & Hannah EAMES :-)

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 8 Oct 2013 08:46

And of other son:

Digger - Marriage Index. Victoria 1921-1942
Family Name: EAMES
Given Name: Eric Frank
Spouse Family Name: SKELTON
Spouse Given Name: Iris Mabel
Registration Year: 1941
Registration Number: 14757
Event: M

WWII enlistment posted above with wife Iris as next of kin. Matches this birth:

Digger - Great War Index. Victoria 1914-1920

Surname: EAMES
Given Names: Frank Eric
Event: B
Father: Frank
Mother: Hannah WILLIAMSON
Birth Place: FOSTER
Year: 1914
Reg. Number: 12959

An Eric EAMES died in Melbourne in 2005. See Ryerson Index.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 8 Oct 2013 09:01

Hopefully Philip comes back!!!

Philip John

Philip John Report 15 Oct 2013 20:31

Hi
The information you have given is most interesting. I remember my Grandmother recieving a letter from Australia telling her of Franks death and 1954 seems about right I would have been about 12. Sometime around 2001 someone came to Whiston looking for Eames and found Alvans home but he had just died and his widow didnt understand so they left without making contact with us.
Philip

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Oct 2013 00:09

Glad you eventually found your way back Philip

Unless Cherilyn (one of GR's experts in Australian research) comes up with a better idea, it might be worth following the suggestions given in my post 26 Sep 2013 11:43

Now that you have some more names to work with, add the deceased ones to your tree, and search other members trees. One of their descendents might have taken up FH as a hobby.

If you were to contact Ballarat Cemetery, they might give you the name of who ever arranged Joyce Ivra's funeral. A sympathetic funeral director might pass on a message/letter to the last know address for that person

You could do the same for Buninyong Cemetery where Ivan was buried in 2008

Philip John

Philip John Report 17 Oct 2013 23:34

I am not in Australia how do I proceed.