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James Edwin Francis

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poodles

poodles Report 16 Sep 2013 19:19

The wittnesses on James Edwin & Lucy Ann 's Marriage certificate were Jack Wright
& Evelyn Kirkham the marriage ws at the Parish Church in Calverton in the County of
Nottingham 29th december 1917

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Sep 2013 09:52

Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%)
COPE Anne Atcham 6a 917
MANSELL Miriam Atcham 6a 917
Mills William Alfred Atcham 6a 917
Morris Edward Atcham 6a 917

poodles

poodles Report 15 Sep 2013 19:15

On marriage certificate of James Edwin Francis & Lusy Ann Wright James Edwin's father was George Francis ( deceased ) James Edwin & Lucy Ann's fathers were both bricklayers

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Sep 2013 22:37

Violet is now 'niece' in 1911:

Address: Byron Street Daybrook Nottinghamshire County: Nottinghamshire

WESTON, Alfred Head Married M 58 1853 Builder Shropshire Shrewsbury
WESTON, Elizabeth Wife Married 37 years F 59 1852 Shropshire Shrewsbury
WESTON, Violet Niece Single F 18 1893 Assists In House Work Shropshire Shrewsbury<<<<<<<<<<

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Sep 2013 22:30

Births Jun 1896 Francis James Edwin Oswestry 6a 652

This one's age is slightly out with 1901 adopted Violet, but right area:

Births Dec 1893 Francis Violet Maud Oswestry 6a 635

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Sep 2013 22:27

Really strange but on 1901 census there is a Violet Francis b 1895 listed as adopted daughter also living in Nottinghamshire

Wonder if parents had died by 1901

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 12 Sep 2013 22:25

Same family as above in GB's 1901 census , right forenames albeit reversed. Uncle works in building industry.

Out of interest, was the name of James Francis's father given on the marriage cert, and what was it? You said Father's occupation was given as Bricklayer, and uncle is a builder,, some similarity.

Census 1911:

Address: Salisbury Farm Red Hill County: Nottinghamshire

MORRIS, Edwin Head Married M 66 1845 Builder And Contractor Shrewsbury Salop
MORRIS, Miriam Wife Married 40 years F 64 1847 Shrewsbury Salop
MORRIS, Edwin Frances Nephew Single M 15 1896 Student Baschurch Salop<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HUNT, Hannah Elizabeth Servant Single F 20 1891 Servant Domestic Chaddesden Derby

poodles

poodles Report 12 Sep 2013 22:24

Thankyou for your help the occupation of James looks like Porter it says R then a sort of a squiggle then Porter

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Sep 2013 21:58

1901 poss

Name: James E Francis
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Baschurch, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Arnold
Ecclesiastical parish: Daybrook St Paul
Town: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Basford
Sub-registration District: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 90
Piece: 3158
Folio: 13
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Morris 56
Miriam Morris 56
James E Francis 4
William J Care 21
James Bring 16
Daisy M Bowen 19

Class: RG13; Piece: 3158; Folio: 13; Page: 17

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Sep 2013 21:55

What is the occupation of James on the marriage cert ?

Witnessess ?

What is the name of his father ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Sep 2013 21:53

Have you looked on CWGC for any possible WW1 deaths

poodles

poodles Report 12 Sep 2013 21:50

Trying to find date & place of death of James Edwin Francis, James was born around 1896 if his marriage certificate gives his correct age, he married Lucy Ann Wright (daughter of Mary Ann Spizer & John Wright ) on the 29th December 1917 in Calverton Nottinghamshire Lucy & James were both aged 21years Lucy was born in Calverton Don't know where James was born can't find birth certificate, both fathers were bricklayers. Lucy already had a daughter Charlotte Wright born 1915 Lucy had a son James (Jim) born around 1919 ? but Jim was also named Wright why knowbody knows, Charlotte's father is not named on birth certificate we cannot understand where James Edwin Francis went they married in 1917 but Lucy was once again using her maiden name in 1919 when son James ( Jim) was born ) Was James Edwin Francis killed in WW1? & why did Lucy Ann revert to her maiden name on son James birth certificate .We always knew her as Lucy Wright James emigrated to New Zeeland in the late 40's early 50s Please can anyone help