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Ellen Dobson nee Waters Death Record LIverpol area

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Sep 2013 08:24

The lack of on line burial info is nothing to do with the deceased person...............it just means that it hasn't yet been transcribed by the volunteers who undertake the task of putting it on line. Assuming, of course, that she was buried.

Depending on your proximity to Liverpool, it might prove less costly to purchase one - or both - of the death certs

Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 13 Sep 2013 07:32

Flip

Thanks for the tips! This lady has always been a bit enigmatic, so no burial record isn't a surprise!

I'll head for the Local records Office in Liverpool when I get a chance.

Cheers

Steve

Flip

Flip Report 12 Sep 2013 14:59

There is no sign of probate or a burial for the 1923 death on ancestry, so think the only way to know would be order the death certificate, or if you are local check out the records office for burial indexes

Flip

Flip Report 12 Sep 2013 14:53

As she was claiming to be even younger on the 1911 census, I would think the 1923 death to be more likely.

Ellen Dobson
Age in 1911: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 33 Scourfield Street Liverpool
Marital Status: Married
Registration District: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration District: West Derby Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 22567
Household Members: Name Age
John William Dobson 57
Ellen Dobson 54
Minnie Dobson 20
Robert Dobson 14
John Crouley 28
Ellen Ester Crouley 28
Nelly Crouley 1
Lilian Crouley 4/12

Flip

Flip Report 12 Sep 2013 14:28

Economical with the truth about her age. She named her father George a ships joiner when she married, think this is her in 1871:

Ellen Waters
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Waters
Mother's Name: Ellen Waters
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration District: West Derby
Sub-registration District: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 73
Piece: 3793
Folio: 44
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
George Waters 42 (carpenter)
Ellen Waters 44
Thomas Waters 2
Ellen Waters 17
John Waters 15
George Waters 13
Richard Waters 12
Mary J Waters 8

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 Sep 2013 13:52

could this be them?

Name: William Dobson
Age (Original): 3
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1878
Birthplace: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Status: Single
Occupation:
Address: 5 Dobson St
Event Place: Everton, Lancashire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341879
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3668 / 40
Page Number: 25
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head John Dobson M 26 London East, London, Middlesex, England
Wife Ellen Dobson F 24 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Son William Dobson M 3 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Son Arthur Dobson M 0 Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 12 Sep 2013 12:31

I’m hoping some kind souls out there can help me find a record of my Great Grandmother’s death. Her name was Ellen Dobson nee Waters. Ellen married John William Dobson in March 1878, when she claimed to be 22 years old, making her birth year 1855-56. The Dobson family lived in the Kirkdale and Edge Hill areas of Liverpool. I cannot find a record which matches that age. Has anyone out there got access to other that FreeBMD, because I think these two records are most likely to be her. Her death may have been registered by John William her husband, or any of her children William, Arthur, Ellen, Herbert, Minnie, Samuel or Robert. Her husband John William was living in Wynne Street, Edge Hill (Wavertree) when he died in 1925

Dobson Ellen 69 West Derby
8b 705

Deaths Dec 1919 (>99%)
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Deaths Dec 1923 (>99%)
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DOBSON Ellen 65 W.Derby
8b 527


Thanks in advance for any help

Steve