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Trying to find John Laurence b 1816, Marylebone

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Stuart

Stuart Report 10 Sep 2013 19:48

Thanks to all who replied and made valuable suggestions. Much appreciated.

Regards
Stuart

Stuart

Stuart Report 9 Sep 2013 19:05

Hi Chris,

Thanks. Yes I have that info. It closes the loop a little as their is additional coroborative in fo in the 1851 census.
Regards
Stuart

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Sep 2013 12:55

(not sure if you have below)

1841
APTEAD, William M 50 1791 (Bricklayer)
APTEAD, Sarah F 45 1796
APTEAD, Eliza F 10 1831 Middlesex
Piece: 679
Book/Folio: 11/56
Page: 52
Registration District: Marylebone
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Municipal Borough: Marylebone
Address: Mulyneux Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone (Molyneaux)
County: Middlesex

Name: William Apted
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1844
Burial Date: 9 Oct 1844
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Parish or Poor Law Union: Saint Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register
(abode, Molyneaux Street)

Chris :)

Stuart

Stuart Report 9 Sep 2013 10:44

Hi ChristinaS

Thanks for your message. He is a bit of a mystery to me. It is difficult to actually pinpoint who he is and where mainly because of the spelling of the surname, vis-a-vis Laurence vs Lawrence.

Stuart

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Sep 2013 08:39

Adds to say Burial Stuart refers to above, actually 1857 on image...(age 65)

Deaths Dec 1857 (>99%)
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Apted Sarah Pancras 1b 94

Chris :)

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 9 Sep 2013 07:17

On the 1851 census, John Laurence is down as unmarried.

Do you know that he had children later on?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Sep 2013 22:54

Burial is on deceasedonline

Burial Register summary

last name : Apted
first names : Sarah
Burial date :13 Dec 1857
Authority : London Borough of Camden
Location : St Pancras Cemetery (Camden)


Might be a communal grave as there are 15 other burials in the lair.

Stuart

Stuart Report 8 Sep 2013 21:46

Hi All,

If it is any help I just found parish death record for Sarah Apted St Pancras
abt 3 Dec 1856, St Pancras Parish Chapel, Insane Ward.. Does not give any other information.
Regards
Stuart

Stuart

Stuart Report 8 Sep 2013 21:14

Andy,

Thnaks for your input. Had seen that one but as you say marriage is too early
Regards
Stuart

Stuart

Stuart Report 8 Sep 2013 21:09

MaryB
Ann came up with that also. Looks like a potential match.
Is there a Marriage for John Lawrence (Gent) and Sarah ???????

That might give a maiden name for Sarah
Regards
Stuart

Stuart

Stuart Report 8 Sep 2013 20:59

Hi MaryB
Thanks for your message. I Have the marriage cert for Eliza Apted and Dennis Donegan which shows John Laurence as witness to his half sister Eliza Apted.
Regards
Stuart

Edit note: Same thought is going through my mind too. Canterbury records are not as good as London and can't see a Sarah Laurence/Lawrence in their records

Mary

Mary Report 8 Sep 2013 20:56

Maybe he was born to Sarah Lawrence unmarried ,he is a witness for his half sister Eliza Apted who married Denis Donegan 12/7/1857.

This one??
John Pinto Lawrence baptised St Marylebone 30/8/1815 by
John Lawrence (Gent) and Sarah lawrence

Maryb.

Rambling

Rambling Report 8 Sep 2013 20:52

Stuart how did you get back to John?

Stuart

Stuart Report 8 Sep 2013 20:51

Hi Ann

Looks like a potential match. Not sure how the "Pinto" middle name fits into the grand scheme of things
Stuart

Rambling

Rambling Report 8 Sep 2013 20:50

Not the marriage to Cavell that John is a linen draper

Nor the one to Caroline , that John is a labourer

Stuart

Stuart Report 8 Sep 2013 20:47

have just seen two other possible marriages
John Lawrence marries Caroline Cavell, 10 July 1838, Marylebone
Father Richd Lawrence, and John Cavel

Other possible John Lawrence marries Caroline New 9 Jan 1848, Marylebone
Father William Lawrence

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Sep 2013 20:40

????????????

Name: John Pinto Lawrence
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 Aug 1815
Christening Place: SAINT MARY-ST MARYLEBONE ROAD,ST MARYLEBONE,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 07 Jun 1815
Father's Name: John Lawrence
Mother's Name: Sarah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03524-6
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 580908, 580909, 580910

Stuart

Stuart Report 8 Sep 2013 20:39

I did find a possible spouse in the 1841 census which shows a Caroline Laurence age 20 and a William Laurence age 7 months.
Disi not find a marriage

Stuart

Stuart Report 8 Sep 2013 20:35

Hi Ramblingrose,
I guess the 1851 census which shows him as John Laurence could be a transcription error ??

Regards
Stuart

Rambling

Rambling Report 8 Sep 2013 20:33

There's several possibles

Stuart, have you found a marriage for John ?