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ISABELLA NEWTON BORN 1843 HARTLEPOOL - MYSTERY

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Kathryn

Kathryn Report 7 Sep 2013 20:05

Hi Mary, yes it very sad. Some of my ancestors make very interesting reading and a majority of them had a high old time. I thought when I was born (1949) and lived life in the 60's things were shunned upon but some of my ancestors had lovers and some had children out of wedlock. It's amazing what things come out of the woodwork. I just love researching but when I really get stuck I ask for help. Thank you again for your time and help. Please feel free to browse my tree on Ancestry if you can access it. My tree on GR is very limited and unfortunately I don't have the time to build on it right now so I keep adding to my Ancestry one.

I may well not be around much more on the computer tonight as my other half is getting ready to go beach fishing so I'm going to sort him out some food etc to take and then settle down myself to watch some TV. Will check tomorrow for any messages.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Mary

Mary Report 7 Sep 2013 19:52

Poor Reginald 1875 had an eventful life as you know.
On one of the rescue ships for the Titanic and then getting caught in that terrible explosion in Halifax Nova Scotia resulting in his death in 1917.

Poor man and of course his family.

Maryb.

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 7 Sep 2013 18:49

I'll keep trucking with Isabella. Still searching for a photo of the Richard Young. Have just looked at a couple of sites and they talk about it but as yet no pictures.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Mary

Mary Report 7 Sep 2013 18:18

Maybe she did get married,it seems along time from 1877 to 1900 to decide wether you want be married or not.The paddle steamer Richard Young in service from 1871 -1890

Maryb.

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 7 Sep 2013 18:11

If anything does come to light then I'll let you know. ArgyllGran may well be right in that she just changed her surname because of her criminal past. I don't suppose in those days you had to produce any documents to show who you really were? Am now trying to find a picture of the paddle steamer, The Richard Young that Isabella was a stewardess on. I have found the info on the steamer but not a picture as yet. What am I like?!!!!!

Kind regards

Kathryn

Mary

Mary Report 7 Sep 2013 18:03

Me too.

Maryb.

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 7 Sep 2013 17:44

Hi Mary, since your previous post I had been doing some fishing and have now found that marriage. Thank you so much for your time and help. I am still puzzled over Isabella though.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Mary

Mary Report 7 Sep 2013 17:30

Eliza Elizabeth Day married John Boyd in Tendring Essex o/n/d 1896. V4a P898

Maryb.

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 7 Sep 2013 15:16

Hi, I have found John born 1872 in Dovercourt, Essex in the 1881 Census and then not until the 1911 Census when it shows him being away at sea and says he was married. Where did you get that marriage from? I have just been looking at marriages for John (obviously going way off what my post originally started out as) but all info on this family is good thank you. Where does that John marry Elizabeth please?

Kind regards

Kathryn

Mary

Mary Report 7 Sep 2013 14:17

So Isabella was about in 1883 if she is a witness to daughter Mary's marriage.

I can't see he 1891 or John born 1872.

Did John Boyd marry Eliza Elizabeth day in 1896, he also was away at sea I presume in 1901/1911 as Eliza on her own.

Maryb.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Sep 2013 11:40

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Name: William Alfred Laxton
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 06 Sep 1897
Event Place: Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Age: 19
Birth Year (Estimated): 1878
Father's Name: John Laxton
Mother's Name: Isabella Laxton
Spouse's Name: Alice Easter Calhoun Young
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1877
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Young
Spouse's Mother's Name: Mary Young
Registration Number: 002036
GS Film number: 1870917
Digital Folder Number: 004529265
Image Number: 00214

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Sep 2013 11:38

this is the ony Isabella Pells I can see in Canada

Name: Isabella Pells
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Female
Age: 49
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birthplace: Montrose N B
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Hackney
Sub-District: Stoke Newington
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Olave
Civil Parish: Stoke Newington
District/Parish/County: London, Middlesex

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 7 Sep 2013 11:13

Hi ArgyllGran, Thomas, Isabella's first husband dies in 1877 so I do not believe that the Census you inform me of it s the correct one but I do thank you for your time and input.

Kind regards

Kathryn

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Sep 2013 11:11

Perhaps she chose to change her name to hide her criminal past???

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 7 Sep 2013 11:08

Hi, Isabella is my 3rd great grandmother. I can find no trace of her in the 1891 Census. I do know that in the newspaper article in the Essex Standard in 1882 the article states that she was still a Boyd and that she pleaded guilty to and was fined for smuggling tobacco on the steamer the Richard Young between Harwich and Rotterdam. Not so sure that she would have been able to work on the steamers again. I have her in the 1881 Census living in Dovercourt, Essex but then nothing in black and white apart from her marriage to John Laxton until I find her in the ER in 1918 living in Paddington.

Regards

Kathryn

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Sep 2013 11:06

1881: this is the Isabella listed in 1891 above. Perhaps this is the one you're looking for, and not the stewardess??

[EDIT: No, apparently not, per Kathryn's post below, at 11:08.]

1881 England Census about Isabella Boyd
Name: Isabella Boyd
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Thomas Boyd
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham City, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Crossgate
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: Alergate
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Curriers Wife

Registration District: Durham
Sub-registration District: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4953
Folio: 121
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Boyd 44
Isabella Boyd 40
Allan Boyd 13
Margt. Elizth. Boyd 11
Isabella Boyd 9
Elizabeth Boyd 8
Ellen Boyd 5
Annie Boyd 5
Alice Boyd
Margaret Bell 46

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 7 Sep 2013 11:00

Technically the surname given at the time of marriage by a woman should be the name by which she is currently known by. However as it is perfectly legal to be known by any name you choose providing it is not for fraudulent purposes any name might be given.

The Isabella Boyd indicated in the 1891 census above is not the Isabella Boyd that you indicate as being a stewardess in 1881. That begs the question, are you following the correct Isabella who married a Thomas Boyd?

How are you connected to Isabella?

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 7 Sep 2013 10:48

Hi all, thank you for your input. Much appreciated. I did wonder if she had married someone abroad during her stint as a Stewardess but is there any way to find this out please? I love mysteries but even more so if they are solved. I take it that one cannot just use any surname to get married?

Kind regards

Kathryn

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 7 Sep 2013 10:43

It would appear that Isabella and Thomas Boyd's youngest son, Reginald Newton Boyd born 1875 ended up in Canada, marrying there in 1905 and dying there in 1917.

Have you considered that Isabella in her capacity of stewardess for the Great Eastern line may have traveled to Canada and either married the man named Pell either there or on board ship?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Sep 2013 10:41

She's still called Boyd in 1891:

[EDIT: No, seems to be the wrong person, per Kathryn's post below, at 11:08.]

1891 England Census about Isabella Boyd
Name: Isabella Boyd
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Durham
Sub-registration District: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4103
Folio: 126
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Isabella Boyd 50
Allan Boyd 23
Isabella Boyd 19
Elizabeth Boyd 17
Annie Boyd 13
Alice Boyd 10
Eleanor Boyd 6